EMS Sasuke & KCM Naruto vs Nagato

[Zee U]

Location: Where Madara fought the Gokage
Distance: 100 meters
Mindset: Bloodlusted
Intel: Manga
Conditions: Sasuke can't use PS or legged Susanoo, KCM Naruto can't access Bijuu Mode or Sage Mode. Nagato is healthy and in his prime.


Scenario 2: Sasuke can use legged Susanoo and Naruto can use Sage Mode. Nagato can use Limbo, limited to 3 clones that can be normally seen and harmed.

 

[genii96]

Nagato mid diff at most.
Chibaku tensei oneshots

 

[genii96]

Nagato mid diff at most.
Chibaku tensei oneshots

 

[NSUNSR]

EMS Sasuke never had PS anyway. Nagato does beat them one on one, but loses against the two together,

 

[ARGUS]

SCENARIO 1: Nagato wins this high/extreme diff

--he can use his Boss sized ST to severely damage KCM naruto and eliminate his clones and summons, furthermore he can also enhance his mobility even more through shurado, and through his shared vision as well as his impressive sensing, blitzing is not happening either

--he can also use his summons such as chameleon to blindside naruto just how he did in canon, and can finish him off with ningendo and shurado, or he can immobilise him through chakra rods,

--Both naruto and sasukes notable attacks are food for preta, and with naruto and his clones getting eradicated by large scale ST and Sasuke not possessing leggeed susanoo simply means that nagato can also pull him out of his susanoo through BT and then overwhelm him through deva,and shurado,

--Sasuke really isnt doing anything here at all, his susanoo gets destroyed or absorbed by nagato, and he can also get pulled out, and then overwhelmed, as he simply lacks any effective way of damaging nagato

--COFRS is repelled, as well as all their attacks, as Nagato can then finish them off with GM soul dragon, or CST from point blank range, which they both simply cant counter,

SCENARIO 2: Can go either way, depending on nagatos use and power of his Limbo clones,
if we scale it to madaras then he wins this decisively, but if we scale it to his own power, then naruto and sasuke win extreme diff

 

[QdonEms]

Legged susanoo= sasuke solos.
1st scene nagato still loses if its just him and not 6 paths

 

[ARGUS]

Legged susanoo= sasuke solos.
1st scene nagato still loses if its just him and not 6 paths

Lol without PS. Sasuke is not soloing shit
His legged susanoo are just good for preta and can get destroyed by nagato as well

 

[Kagustuchi]

KCM Naruto could take it alone High Diff/Extreme Diff due to matchup, though Nagato is stronger overall. With Sasuke here, I could see it getting knocked down to Mid Diff/Mid-High Diff.

Low Diff in S2​

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[KidGamer65]

Naruto and Sasuke win mid-high diff in the first scenario.

-Susanoo protects them from CST, and Chou Oodama FRS obliterates CT's core before it gets too large. So those moves won't be a factor here. They can survive the rest of Nagato's moves with moderate difficulty.

During Nagato's 5 second time limit, it leaves him open to physical attacks from Naruto, since he can absorb Naruto's ranged chakra attacks, but reacting to his speed is going to be a pain, especially when he has Sasuke to worry about, and when he can make clones. Naruto and Sasuke can easily increase the amount of Enton on the field by combining FRS and Kagutsuchi, allowing them to set up Kirin in a matter of minutes, ending Nagato's life with that one strike, since he can't absorb real lightning as its not chakra.


They win low diff in the second scenario.

 

[wael reda]

Naruto and Sasuke win mid-high diff in the first scenario.

-Susanoo protects them from CST, and Chou Oodama FRS obliterates CT's core before it gets too large. So those moves won't be a factor here. They can survive the rest of Nagato's moves with moderate difficulty.

During Nagato's 5 second time limit, it leaves him open to physical attacks from Naruto, since he can absorb Naruto's ranged chakra attacks, but reacting to his speed is going to be a pain, especially when he has Sasuke to worry about, and when he can make clones. Naruto and Sasuke can easily increase the amount of Enton on the field by combining FRS and Kagutsuchi, allowing them to set up Kirin in a matter of minutes, ending Nagato's life with that one strike, since he can't absorb real lightning as its not chakra.


They win low diff in the second scenario.

Good points

Ot : what is the point of giving naga to 3 limbo can be normally seen and harmed ,then it is just a normal clones ,it doesn't add to nagato's power anything

 

[KidGamer65]

Good points

Ot : what is the point of giving naga to 3 limbo can be normally seen and harmed ,then it is just a normal clones ,it doesn't add to nagato's power anything

Thanks, and I was thinking the same exact thing, forgot to mention it. Its even worse than Shadow Clones since Limbo have only shown Taijutsu.

 

[naruto7861]

Ps Sasuke solo's however they still win either way

 

[wael reda]

Thanks, and I was thinking the same exact thing, forgot to mention it. Its even worse than Shadow Clones since Limbo have only shown Taijutsu.

Yes limbo didn't show the ability to use ninjutsu
Limbo was so dangerous just because it cant be sensed or seen except by rikudu's senjutsu and riningan

 

[warlee]

naruto and sasuke wins mid diff.

 

[ARGUS]

Naruto and Sasuke win mid-high diff in the first scenario.
-Susanoo protects them from CST, and Chou Oodama FRS obliterates CT's core before it gets too large. So those moves won't be a factor here. They can survive the rest of Nagato's moves with moderate difficulty.

None of sasukes susanoo variants here have the durability to tank CST from point blank range, (which will be stronger when its coming from nagato himself) nor can sasuke wrap naruto insiide his susanoo here, not that it matters since all his susanoos are destroyed by it, and naruto is certainly not surviving it,
CST would destroy ALL of Sasukes susanoo variants and KCM Naruto certainly isnt evading a jutsu of this magnitude, nor is he durable enough to survive it,
CT isnt needed

During Nagato's 5 second time limit, it leaves him open to physical attacks from Naruto, since he can absorb Naruto's ranged chakra attacks, but reacting to his speed is going to be a pain, especially when he has Sasuke to worry about, and when he can make clones. Naruto and Sasuke can easily increase the amount of Enton on the field by combining FRS and Kagutsuchi, allowing them to set up Kirin in a matter of minutes, ending Nagato's life with that one strike, since he can't absorb real lightning as its not chakra.

@Bold - THe 5 second limit only applies to Deva Path pein,
Nagatos limit is most likely shorter and the speed of his techniques is much faster as well

Narutos physical blows are not doing much at all,

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, just how he did to V2 Bee,
on top of the fact that

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, just how he did in canon, and can also use his

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just how he did in canon

Enton kagutsuchi are just food for preta, they are not doing anything at all
and through nagatos sensing,,and nigh instant deva path techniques as well as preta to absorb all of narutos attack, he is not doing much at all,,
Sasuke without his legged susannoo lacks any remote way of damaging nagato, as the deva and preta combo finish him off,

as for Kirin, it actually

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, which can allow nagato enough time to activate ST, and repel the technique
not to mention that

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Naruto would also be affected by it, if not possibly killed

They win low diff in the second scenario.

All depends on how nagatos fanfic limbo plays out,, but naruto and sasuke should win this

 

[TRE MERCER]

Naruto and Sasuke wins both scenes.

 

[KidGamer65]

None of sasukes susanoo variants here have the durability to tank CST from point blank range, (which will be stronger when its coming from nagato himself) nor can sasuke wrap naruto insiide his susanoo here, not that it matters since all his susanoos are destroyed by it, and naruto is certainly not surviving it,
CST would destroy ALL of Sasukes susanoo variants and KCM Naruto certainly isnt evading a jutsu of this magnitude, nor is he durable enough to survive it,
CT isnt needed

Based on? When used on the leaf village, Mini Katsuyu were able to take it for the villagers. They can focus it, but its not going to destroy Susanoo AND kill Sasuke at the same time. So Susanoo does protect him from it, never said it'd tank it. Lmao.

And why can't he put Naruto in his Susanoo? Oh wait, he

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as its been done many times before.

@Bold - THe 5 second limit only applies to Deva Path pein,
Nagatos limit is most likely shorter and the speed of his techniques is much faster as well

That's fanfic.

Narutos physical blows are not doing much at all,

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, just how he did to V2 Bee,
on top of the fact that

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, just how he did in canon, and can also use his

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just how he did in canon

Stop. The only reason he "Tanked" Lariat is because he was absorbing it. This guy lost use of his legs because of paper bombs. Tanking Lariat is a hilarious joke, especially in his emaciated state.

Nothing Nagato did to Naruto in canon here means anything as:

1. Naruto had split his chakra 14 times, and at this point he had a limit as to how much KCM Chakra he could use. Didn't use any clones, or his Shunshin.

2. Naruto has Sasuke as a teammate here, so he'd fodderize the invisible chameleon, as it can be seen with Sharingan, so Naruto getting caught by that is never happening, and if Naruto isn't immobilized by something, Nagato isn't going to catch him.

Enton kagutsuchi are just food for preta, they are not doing anything at all

Naruto and Sasuke can easily increase the amount of Enton on the field

Read. Its not for Nagato. Unless he is going to run around the battlefield absorbing it, which is dumb and it won't matter as all they need to do is heat up the atmosphere.

and through nagatos sensing,,and nigh instant deva path techniques as well as preta to absorb all of narutos attack, he is not doing much at all,,

His sensing isn't going to let him react to Naruto's speed in close range, during his 5 second time limit. He hasn't shown reaction feats on that level.

Sasuke without his legged susannoo lacks any remote way of damaging nagato, as the deva and preta combo finish him off,

If he uses Deva to bring Susanoo toward him, Naruto Shunshin blitzes him during the cooldown, and slams a Rasen Shuriken into him.

as for Kirin, it actually

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, which can allow nagato enough time to activate ST, and repel the technique

Or, Naruto forces him to use Shinra Tensei, and then they hit him with Kirin during the cooldown. Not to mention he has to be able to repel it as its fired at him. Using it before won't do anything as the target won't be close enough.

not to mention that

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Naruto would also be affected by it, if not possibly killed

Or he can fire when Naruto isn't near Nagato. Then Nagato dies as he won't be able to repel it and he can't absorb it.

All depends on how nagatos fanfic limbo plays out,, but naruto and sasuke should win this

His Limbo is basically a shadow clone with a time limit, that can't use any jutsu. Only physical jutsu, and they are clones of him, so taking Madara's feats won't work.

 

[Rufus ShinRa]

Nagato wins this med-high diff

 

[genii96]

What a joke.
Neither sasuke nor naruto have anything to go through preta,none of them can destroy a forming CT.

Legless susanoo sasuke is worthless here,a complete non factor,all his attacks fail to preta,kcm naruto gets shat on like in canon.
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Legged susanoo is no better,he cant touch nagato,weakened deva shown the ability to knock objects of bijuu sizes several miles away. A walking susanoo is nothing to nagato.
Nagato low -mid diff either scenario

 

[ARGUS]

Based on? When used on the leaf village, Mini Katsuyu were able to take it for the villagers. They can focus it, but its not going to destroy Susanoo AND kill Sasuke at the same time. So Susanoo does protect him from it, never said it'd tank it. Lmao.

First of all,

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therefore the effect of the jutsu on the villagers was minimal, since nagato himself is the epicentre for ST, and the fact that pein basically used it to destroy the village,
furthermore when used on point blank range, none of sasukes susanoo variants are tanking a force that eradicated an entire village from quite a large distance
and naruto is never tanking CST, from point blank, its just a GG for him

And why can't he put Naruto in his Susanoo? Oh wait, he

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as its been done many times before.

Ribcage susanoo that wasnt even wrapped around naruto Lol, it was simply covering naruto from one direction,
not to mention that ST cant be detected from either of the two,
unless you think that sasuke can magically percieve ST, and wrap naruto around his susanoo before the jutsu takes affect, Lol, and nothing short of V3/V4 susanoo is effective against

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, who again, is weaker than nagato

That's fanfic.

No its not, Nagatos limit is most likely shorter than Devas, since the techniques are coming from himself not through some puppet, that is kilometres away and only has a fragment of his power,
its fanfic if i say that he has no limit at all, but i clearly never stated that

Stop. The only reason he "Tanked" Lariat is because he was absorbing it. This guy lost use of his legs because of paper bombs. Tanking Lariat is a hilarious joke, especially in his emaciated state.

Lol, you are wrong here,
he is tanking KCM Narutos chakra arms or attack, because they are simply covered in chakra, unless you think that preta cant absorb his KCM shroud which is nothing but wrong,
not to mention that KCM narutos physical attacks are not as strong as V2 lariat,
and Nagato did tank his lariat,

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and he also took the blow before absorbing his chakra, nor was he regenerating, meaning that he tanked it, regardless of preta absorbing his shroud, therefore the same would happen to naruto,
or he would get blown away by ST, or restrained through shurado and chakra rods
unless you think that narutos chakra shroud cant be absorbed like bees cloak then you are wrong,

and nagato lost his legs due to GM,

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Nothing Nagato did to Naruto in canon here means anything as:
1. Naruto had split his chakra 14 times, and at this point he had a limit as to how much KCM Chakra he could use. Didn't use any clones, or his Shunshin.

His shunshin is still slower than ST,, and his clones would get blown away by ST,
and shurado or chakra rods can still restrain him just fine, and preta absorbs all his jutsus with ease,

2. Naruto has Sasuke as a teammate here, so he'd fodderize the invisible chameleon, as it can be seen with Sharingan, so Naruto getting caught by that is never happening, and if Naruto isn't immobilized by something, Nagato isn't going to catch him.

Nagato doesnt need to catch him either, he can blow him away by boss sized ST, the moment he comes near him to attack, and his shroud and ninjutsu is still absorbed by preta,
and sasuke percieving the chameleon is complete speculation

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and when KCM naruto failed to sense the chameleon, who can even sense through emotions, then the sharingan wont decipher it either,

Read. Its not for Nagato. Unless he is going to run around the battlefield absorbing it, which is dumb and it won't matter as all they need to do is heat up the atmosphere.

Kirin is simply affecting naruto more than it is to nagato, due to the vast AOE and magnitude of the jutsu
i have already stated how nagato counters kirin,
since the jutsu still requires a

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which allows nagato more than enough time to activate ST and repel the jutsu
unless you think that sasukes downward arm movement is faster than ST, in which case Lol

His sensing isn't going to let him react to Naruto's speed in close range, during his 5 second time limit. He hasn't shown reaction feats on that level.

Why isnt it,???
he percieved amaterasu well well before the attack was landed on him,
and his deva path jutsus are nigh instant, meaning naruto would get blown away,,

and if naruto does resort to CQC then he is simply getting overwhelmed through shurado, and not to mention that preta would still absorb his shroud, and his physical blows have not shown the power to be as strong as V2 Bees lariat

If he uses Deva to bring Susanoo toward him, Naruto Shunshin blitzes him during the cooldown, and slams a Rasen Shuriken into him.

Lol what would naruto attack him with??
chakra arms,chakra punches??? they simply get absorbed,, or he gets overwhelmed by shurado,
FRS gets absorbed with ease, dont even know why you would bring that up,
nagato can also use multiple paths at once, meaning that if naruto attempts to come near him he can use shurado missiles to attack, or the extra shurado limbs to overwhelm him

Or, Naruto forces him to use Shinra Tensei, and then they hit him with Kirin during the cooldown. Not to mention he has to be able to repel it as its fired at him. Using it before won't do anything as the target won't be close enough.

Lol, kirin requires quite some time to be prepped, by that time, ST would be repaired, by then,
and when naruto does force him to use ST, then sasuke would get affected too,
this premise is flawed,

Or he can fire when Naruto isn't near Nagato. Then Nagato dies as he won't be able to repel it and he can't absorb it.

Nagato can repel it, his cooldown is much shorter than the time taken for sasuke to prep kirin,