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first of all sasuke has itachi's eyes but the chakra is sasuke's own....itachi's eyes implanted on him only gave him eternal light...nothing more than that. I don't think that gives sasuke access to itachi's weapons......
secondly to all those narutards who think sasuke is fodder compared to naruto, let me tell you something, sasuke doesn't have all that inhuman raw power and speed like BM naruto but he doesn't need it either. we have seen sasuke's unique mastery in manipulating amaterasu along with susanoo. So this combined technique is quite dangerous, not to mention sasuke is far more intelligent and has greater analytic skills compared to naruto. Sasuke can instantly activate susanoo to defend himself from naruto's attacks...so no matter how fast naruto moves, since susanoo activation is instantaneous(proved when itachi protected himself from sasuke's lightning fast kirin) i don't think it would be a problem for sasuke to deal with naruto's speed....and susanoo can tank bijuu dama. so it will be a close battle anyway..

This is true. Even madara without perfect susano tanked a full power kurama TBB
naruto's kurama is only half of the chakra
 

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@Bold: LOL you clearly dont read the manga......

Yes made a mistake there. I am a human not a robot. But why would he use normal genjutsu if he know he can infinite chakra.
 

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This is true. Even madara without perfect susano tanked a full power kurama TBB
naruto's kurama is only half of the chakra
That doesnt prevent kurama from using a full power TBB since a full Powered TBB doesnt take up all you power
 

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More like: Ems Sasuke is highly OVERrated
Sasuke's EMS had his chance to shine against Kabuto, but didn't do shit.

I will point something: it would be a paradox if Sasuke's can use the spiritual weapons sinces Edo Itachi still have them. It wont be a legendary weapon if it can be cloned like that.

Until Sasuke shows them, I call it fanboyist conjectures = bull****.
 

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More like: Ems Sasuke is highly OVERrated
Sasuke's EMS had his chance to shine against Kabuto, but didn't do shit.

I will point something: it would be a paradox if Sasuke's can use the spiritual weapons sinces Edo Itachi still have them. It wont be a legendary weapon if it can be cloned like that.

Until Sasuke shows them, I call it fanboyist conjectures = bull****.

Have you forgotten the limitation on that fight They were not alloud to kill kabuto
 

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More like: Ems Sasuke is highly OVERrated
Sasuke's EMS had his chance to shine against Kabuto, but didn't do shit.

I will point something: it would be a paradox if Sasuke's can use the spiritual weapons sinces Edo Itachi still have them. It wont be a legendary weapon if it can be cloned like that.

Until Sasuke shows them, I call it fanboyist conjectures = bull****.

Lol this is not true. Even Rinnegan 1 of the strongest doujutsu's can be copied like its nothing
tell me how is this possible
Madara is revived and obito have MADARA'S rinnegan.

so what you say is just bullshit.
 

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itachi is not invincible with spiritual weapons
sasuke does not have those spiritual weapons
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i don't read long theories, but your the only one i know who underrated sasuke. patheteeecc o.o
 

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First of all i'm not a sasuke fanboy.

But dont put him under naruto...
I mean.
he have itachi's eyes did you guys

- Yata mirror.
- Totsuka blade.
- Perfect tsukuyomi.

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Zetsu stated that if you posses Yata mirror you are invincible
i dont think this is 100% true but it is able to defence against huge attack's.

If he have itachi's eyes he should have it
he also have his own susano. wich is with a nice amaterasu orb and spear.


Then tsukuyomi People say he is not able to hit a bijuu user with it...
but that is stated for a normal genjutsu.
itachi's tsukuyomi is able to control time and even the mass of objects
and i think naruto knew about this.

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Well manga actually stated that if you take somebody's eyes you can use the power's
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*The manga states that you can use the EYE's power but Kishi DID NOT confirm that those items are part of Itachi's sharingan power*
And sasuke is not a stupid charather look at the danzo fight he did against danzo
he faked 1 of his sharingans with a weak genjutsu

*1. Sasuke got help or learned to strategy with the help of Karin 2. Danzo's Izanami (Or was it Izagani?) was imperfect MANGA FACT*

So dont put Sasuke under naruto i think they are equal atm.
or sasuke is just barely under naruto.
and if that is the case he will get perfect susano as a new power up.

*I'm no Naruto fan- I actually hate him atm (because of the sudden Godly Power-Ups) but when Sasuke can fight fight the previous Kages and stand up to the Jubi- he'll be equal to Naruto*
 

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*I'm no Naruto fan- I actually hate him atm (because of the sudden Godly Power-Ups) but when Sasuke can fight fight the previous Kages and stand up to the Jubi- he'll be equal to Naruto*

That's my point People but him way below naruto but i think they are equal.
 

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He does not hv Itachis susanoo weapons or his tsukuyomi....
However what he has is an s rank jutsu with as many variations as he wants and no disadvantage in return (amaterasu)
He has 2 almost completely mastered elements one of which is strong enough to wipe out an s rank(kirin)
He has very strong defense which once perfect is hard to break and also provides him offence opportunity(susanoo)
He can trap his victims in an illusion(tsukuyomi)
Hes also smart and good strategist and opportunist

So hes better than a kage ranked shinobi or atleast at par with one.
But since Naruto has also started fighting smart and has got skilled,sasukes gonna hv a problem fighting him...and i dont think he can win but if he manages to outsmart naruto which is now difficult,he might stand a chance but hances are about only 20%

But we havent seen his entire arsenal yet,so for clear results,we just hv to wait
 

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No i think he will show it if he see's madara he will show madara the true EMS powers
that what kishi do all the time.
Just look to obito with kamui.

Yea true but does that mean he can switch ms to ems
 

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first of all sasuke has itachi's eyes but the chakra is sasuke's own....itachi's eyes implanted on him only gave him eternal light...nothing more than that. I don't think that gives sasuke access to itachi's weapons......
secondly to all those narutards who think sasuke is fodder compared to naruto, let me tell you something, sasuke doesn't have all that inhuman raw power and speed like BM naruto but he doesn't need it either. we have seen sasuke's unique mastery in manipulating amaterasu along with susanoo. So this combined technique is quite dangerous, not to mention sasuke is far more intelligent and has greater analytic skills compared to naruto. Sasuke can instantly activate susanoo to defend himself from naruto's attacks...so no matter how fast naruto moves, since susanoo activation is instantaneous(proved when itachi protected himself from sasuke's lightning fast kirin) i don't think it would be a problem for sasuke to deal with naruto's speed....and susanoo can tank bijuu dama. so it will be a close battle anyway..

I mostly agree, but you're forgetting something gamebreaker about Naruto: He can make perfect kagebushins, already show two in BM (one helping Kakashi, the original fighting wood dragon and the other one nuking the jubi). So it's at least three bijus against that Susano'o.

And I say atleast, 'cause as a matter of fact, he wasted a huge bunch of chakra with the zetsus and Tobi before getting BM so he isn't rested at all. By taking Kurama's chakra he basically duplicated the chakra when the fox regenerated it.

Kishi make him too OP kinda fast.
 

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He's below Naruto, as of now, until we see the EMS' full potential. Sasuke does have Tsukuyomi, just a shit version.
 

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itachi is not invincible with spiritual weapons
sasuke does not have those spiritual weapons
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I'm sorry but itachi IS invincible with those weapons.....it has been mentioned by black zetsu which is basically madara's knowledge....the reason why itachi lost then was simply because he was sick and weakened due to MS overuse. it's kinda sad that we didn't get to see any EMS itachi here....
 

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I mostly agree, but you're forgetting something gamebreaker about Naruto: He can make perfect kagebushins, already show two in BM (one helping Kakashi, the original fighting wood dragon and the other one nuking the jubi). So it's at least three bijus against that Susano'o.

And I say atleast, 'cause as a matter of fact, he wasted a huge bunch of chakra with the zetsus and Tobi before getting BM so he isn't rested at all. By taking Kurama's chakra he basically duplicated the chakra when the fox regenerated it.

Kishi make him too OP kinda fast.


This is true. He give naruto Huge powerups. but madara just wiped 1 Kagebunshin just with his fan
and madara was fighting the original naruto with kurama on his side
 

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Sasuke has flame control as his ability when he had MS.EMS only prevents damage to the users body and eyes.
Going by what you're saying about Sasuke having the legendary items, shouldn't Sasuke's Genjutsu be able to control time like Itachi's?

Sasuke never used Tsukyomi of that caliber and never will thus meaning he won't have the weapons since he doesn't even have the same genjutsu capability as Itachi even after taking his eyes.
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