EMS Sasuke is capable to reach BM Naruto's level + Powerups[please read first]

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Hello guys I would like to talk about Sasuke and Naruto powerwise. Of course we know that currently Naruto stomps Sasuke, especially with his Tailed beast Sage mode/Sage Tailed beast mode. Currently Sasuke is stronger then KCM Naruto but much weaker then BM Naruto at least with what Sasuke has shown so far.

Of course Sasuke needs power-up from Kishi to reach Sage Tailed beast mode/Tailed Sage beast mode of Naruto and only If Kishi want Them to be equal to each other.

In way I believe that Kishi made Sasuke taking Juugo with himself into Susano on purpouse. Either to give him power-up or to add Senjutsu or just nature energy to Sasuke's attacks to make them effective against Current Juubi Jin Obito or The God Tree.

Besides This is first Time we have witnessed Sasuke's Susano to grow bottom part with legs, so it could be hint or foreshadowing of incomming Sasuke power up. In my opinion Kishi is just preparing Sasuke to get Perfect Susano slowly by upgrading his Sussano(grow legs) etc.

This Sasuke's Susano shown in The latest chapter:
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is same as this Incomplete Susano used by Madara's clones:
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. This was called v3(Incomplete Susano) if I remember correctly.

We have to witness yet Sasuke using his Final Susano(v4) which he upgraded with EMS and only used once against White Zetsu clones(not much hype), this is Susano I am talking about:
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, and if Sasuke can sprout/grow legs in his final Susano form as well.. then it should be same or very close to this Madara's Final Susano:
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and when he stabilize it to this:
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, arguably maybe Sasuke's final Susano with legs will become Perfect Susano(Stabilized Final Susano form), so don't have to stabilize it, but we have to wait to see that. Of course it is only speculation as Sasuke's Susano can be smaller(difference of size) and maybe power(stronger or weaker), of course they will differ between each other in equipment they use(Madara and Sasuke).

Considering all of that, I firmly believe that EMS Sasuke(Full power=Final Susano)= BM Naruto,maybe little weaker.

This is how I see Parallel of Naruto's and Sasuke's power up currently :

Base Naruto = Base Sasuke(more varriants of Ninjutsu, but same power)
KN0 Naruto = Sharingan Sasuke(Much better as well rounded shinobi )
SM Naruto= MS Sasuke with Skeleton Susano(v2) (pretty close to each other)
KCM Naruto= EMS Sasuke with Incomplete Susano (v3) (pretty close to each other)

We have to witness Sasuke use Final Susano yet at the battlefield:

(Half Kurama)BM Naruto= EMS Sasuke with Final Susano (Pretty equal I believe, maybe BM little better)

Parellel of Naruto's and Sasuke's future power ups:

(Half Kurama)BSM Naruto= EMS Sasuke with Final Susano enhanced by Nature energy or new EMS Technique

Explanation: If Kishi wants Sasuke to use Nature energy of course, then he can merge Juugo with Sasuke, so Sasuke absorb Juugo's powers... or make Sasuke do Sage's training. However If Kishi only use use Juugo for Sasuke being able to harm Obito or The God Tree... then Sasuke would need Rinnengan instead or new EMS Technique.

(Full Kurama) BM Naruto= EMS Sasuke with Perfect Susano(easy to guess and pretty equally I think)

Explanation: I believe that Kishi shows us Sasuke improving his Susano preparing us when he will get PS so it won't be ass pull, meanwhile Naruto will decided or will be forced by situation to absorb Other Kurama from Minato and make Kurama whole again.

(Full Kurama) BSM Naruto= EMS Sasuke with Perfect Susano enhanced by Nature energy or new EMS technique

Expalnation: Again Naruto will combine his Tailed beast mode with Sage mode, but this time with Kurama at full power, so Sasuke in order to catch up to Naruto will either need Perfect Susano to be enhanced with nature energy or adding new EMS Technique to his PS.

Final and last's powerups for Naruto and Sasuke should be:

Rinnengan or pseudo Ten tails mode for Naruto= Rinnengan or Yata and Totsuka for Sasuke.

= - Means not literraly equal but close to each other... on the same level at least but may be little weaker or stronger.

Let's me know what do you think about my thoughts ?

Please share your opinion ;)

For now BSM Naruto > (Full power) EMS Sasuke

PS. I am Naruto fan... but I respect both characters and can see when Sasuke is close to Naruto.., that is the reason why Sasuke didn't use his Final Susano yet... That fact which most of Naruto fans overlooked or skipped on purpouse. I tried to be unbiased so feel free to correct me, if you think differently.

Please not hate from both sides... just keep open mind and debate calmly with each other. The only people I hate in Narutobase as blind fanboys who instead of showing proof of supperiority of their favourite character instead bash other character to make themselves feel better. One word for such act: Pathetic
 
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EMS Sasuke is incapable of reaching Naruto's level; PMS Sasuke, however, is quite nearby to Naruto's level.
 

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All dem alphabets. :mad:_@:


Lol.Good theory btw. Let's see what Kishi has in store for us :) and I totally agree with Juugo has something do with Sasuke's power up, but definitely not the SM. Lol.
 

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i want replace new EMS tech on new enton/susanoo manipulation..
 

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EMS Sasuke is incapable of reaching Naruto's level; PMS Sasuke, however, is quite nearby to Naruto's level.

really ? and Can you expand this shortcut ?

Also, you didn't read I am sure ;/, why bother posting ?

All dem alphabets. :mad:_@:

Lol.Good theory btw. Let's see what Kishi has in store for us :) and I totally agree with Juugo has something do with Sasuke's power up, but definitely not the SM. Lol.

Thanks you very much ;), I am curious what Kishi has in store for us ;)


i want replace new EMS tech on new enton/susanoo manipulation..

Well.. feel free to do that ;), technically it would be counted as new EMS Technique as well;)
 

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really ? and Can you expand this shortcut ?

Also, you didn't read I am sure ;/, why bother posting ?

Well; you did have "please read first" in your title. But being the bad boy I am, I decided to post without having read your post.
 

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i think you may be right on most parts but let's not jump to conclusions...! kishi may make them equal as they are right now...! so let kishi decide the powerups...!
 

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great theory, makes a lot of sense, I just have one issue and nothing else I can think of:
Susano'o or Susanoo either is fine but please, do not say Sussano repeatedly although it probably bugs me more than it should
 

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i think you may be right on most parts but let's not jump to conclusions...! kishi may make them equal as they are right now...! so let kishi decide the powerups...!

Well true ;), but it would be horrible if Sasuke with just Incomplete Sussano=BSM Naruto, it could be called bad writting.

Also, I just made things easier for Kishi if he hit this thread some time in future lol, or maybe one of his editors ;)

but let's wait and see. After Kishi is author of this manga not me and I am sure he won't fail us ;)

great theory, makes a lot of sense, I just have one issue and nothing else I can think of:
Susano'o or Susanoo either is fine but please, do not say Sussano repeatedly although it probably bugs me more than it should

Thanks a lot ;) and sorry for that bug I understand that it makes reading harder and less enjoyable.

I corrected this mistake already ;), thanks for pointing this out as well.

Honestly I was convinced that Susano is written as "Sussano", but looks like I was wrong lol ;)
 
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Nice theory, there's only two points I disagree with and that naruto and sasuke possibility of getting rinnegan and Bsm > full power ems sasuke.

I don't believe either of them are getting rinnegan because its happens to be overused and it would make a better story giving them another kind of power up.

I don't believe you can say that Bsm > full power ems sasuke, since the manga tells us sasuke isn't done showing off his new abilities with ems.
mangapanda has sasuke saying,"I'm no done yet."; while *********** has sasuke saying,"I'm just getting started."

Overall, you have good theories
 

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EMS Sasuke is incapable of reaching Naruto's level; PMS Sasuke, however, is quite nearby to Naruto's level.

What... Is with that sig...?

EMS and ''PMS'' Sasuke are the same...

OT: It's obvious. If he won't get powerups, I'll bang Kishi's mum.
 

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Perfect susanoo is more or less equal to half Kurama. EMS is not enough to match BSM. However, I think he'll eat the juubi fruit and then he'll gain insanely powerful chakra and get the rinnegan. Then he'll learn how to fuse rinnegan with susanoo like Madara. He'll learn the sage's jutsu.
 

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Nice thread.

The way I see is simple. I for one know that Sasuke can never achieve the VOTE Madara Level. He'll be a lesser version of PS Madara, For him to achieve PS Madara level only awakening PS won't do it. He'll need tons of other skills and a real mastery over his PS.

However with Naruto and hi feats I know that -

Naruto BM = PS Madara
Naruto BSM = Hashirama > PSS Madara
SM Hashirama > VOTE Madara >= BSM Naruto > PSS Madara

And after he gets Minato's gift i.e. other Kurama, w/out any training he automatically becomes an almost equal to SM Hashirama!! And with training he'll surpass SM Hashirama.

So the Final list will be something like this-

1. Naruto BSM [Full Kurama]
2. SM Hashirama
3. VOTE Madara
4. Base Hashirama
5. Naruto BSM [Current]
6. PSS Madara
7. BM Naruto [Current] / PSS Sasuke
8. PSS Sasuke / BM Naruto [Current]
 
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