[VS] EMS Sasuke & EMS Madara vs BM Naruto & BM Minato

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I lack to see how they will match the perfect Susanoo. One swing slices a mountain range, its defense has no problems with TBB.
 

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Not one decent argument from the uchiha camp. Typical
 

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One swing slices a mountain range

the sword despite the fact that mokuton hotei is than both susanoo and kyuubi

on smaller scale, to block perfect susanoo

its defense has no problems with TBB.

surely you see the difference between and

even taking into account the size difference between kyuubis the difference between tbb is just to great
 

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Im going with the Father and Son. There speed, strength, and power far outclass that of the uchiha team.
 

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the sword despite the fact that mokuton hotei is than both susanoo and kyuubi

on smaller scale, to block perfect susanoo



surely you see the difference between and

even taking into account the size difference between kyuubis the difference between tbb is just to great
And then, he used another sword to slice the arms together with a mountain range.. the PS is fast and agile. Catch one sword and it swings immediately another.

Yes. That TBB is another matter. But what if the PS just swings its sword to affect that huge TBB with a shockwave which instantly travels to distant mountains and cuts them? Compared to that huge TBB, the perfect Susanoo is way faster. All it needs is to swing its sword while Kyuubi is going to load this TBB. This would finish themselves.
 

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Not one decent argument from the uchiha camp. Typical

Bar some slight attempt at debate from End of Days, i have seen no argument for the Kurama side bar some word manipulation bullshit that makes it seem like Tobirama could have a chance against EMS mads.


Back on topic, i agree perfectly with Strict, they have no way of getting past PS that can be brought to more potential when backed up by Sasuke´s Ama. Madara takes on the front line while Sasuke burns up Minato´s fanfiction attempts of trying to teleport PS. Point is, BM is not getting past PS, and they have jack of a chance with Ma and PA with Sasuke backing up.
 

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And then, he used another sword to slice the arms together with a mountain range.. the PS is fast and agile. Catch one sword and it swings immediately another.

and that is where the nine tails come in

BM has nine tails which can be used as arms for catching something (each of the tail held down a bijuu)

two tails catch one sword while another two catch the other

Yes. That TBB is another matter. But what if the PS just swings its sword to affect that huge TBB with a shockwave which instantly travels to distant mountains and cuts them? Compared to that huge TBB, the perfect Susanoo is way faster. All it needs is to swing its sword while Kyuubi is going to load this TBB. This would finish themselves.

both the swords are held down

together with BM minato and BM naruto team two has 18 tails which are more than enough to pin down the swords team one has
 

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Bar some slight attempt at debate from End of Days, i have seen no argument for the Kurama side bar some word manipulation bullshit that makes it seem like Tobirama could have a chance against EMS mads.


Back on topic, i agree perfectly with Strict, they have no way of getting past PS that can be brought to more potential when backed up by Sasuke´s Ama. Madara takes on the front line while Sasuke burns up Minato´s fanfiction attempts of trying to teleport PS. Point is, BM is not getting past PS, and they have jack of a chance with Ma and PA with Sasuke backing up.

What fanfiction?
Minato said he can jump whatever he or his chakra comes in contact with. Ps is MADE OUT OF CHAKRA. Once he makes contact with any form of susanno he can jump the user or the susanno it itself.

Even worse is the fact that he already did it twice.
(Even tobirama did it)
It's still debatable whether sasuke even has ps let alone it's size compared to madara's.
#Facts only.


Not when the matchup is uneven.

Replace sasuke with obito then you have a match.

Yeah most likely. St is needed to combat st. It just depends on which obito we're talking bout here.
 
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and that is where the nine tails come in

BM has nine tails which can be used as arms for catching something (each of the tail held down a bijuu)

two tails catch one sword while another two catch the other



both the swords are held down

together with BM minato and BM naruto team two has 18 tails which are more than enough to pin down the swords team one has

The perfect Susanoo is twice as big as 100% Kyuubi.. it easily dwarfs the Kyuubi used by Minato and Naruto. Also, Sasuke is able to use Amaterasu and Enton. He can easily set on fire Naruto's BM Or once one of them touches their Susanoo, they will catch fire as Sasuke covered his Susanoo eventually with Amaterasu. Amaterasu itself even consumes fire. I recall that the Hachibi was completely set on fire with one shot.
 

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No evidence for that.

You both need a different avatar. They are almost the same. ._.

OT: Minato isn't an edo? Than he cannot be BM. In which case he is equal to Tobirama more or less, who was on par with Madara. I guess I give it to the Uchiha though.

There isn't even any evidence that Tobirama was on par with EMS Madara w/Perfect Susanoo at all, considering his statement only has to go for the time they were in the village together or the time they are fighting before the villages were established. Madara didn't have Perfect Susanoo at that time, he only had it when he faced Hashirama at the VoTE.
 

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Something better than your english, that's for sure

Only a garden-variety 'Moron' - Note the capital, as it has different 'Connotations' - would miss the 'Obvious' 'Connotative' meanings in those lines. But it's okay, your garbage is lapped up like a strumpet lapping up the juices after a thorough squeeze.
 

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No evidence for that.
Yes with what shown so far.. Tobirama could only beat him in CQC. There's nothing shown currently that would have him have the chance to beat an EMS Madara who has PS. The only thing I'll settle on so far is him beating MS Madara.
 

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Naruto or Minato could solo with Sasuke's current feats.​
 

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Naruto or Minato could solo with Sasuke's current feats.​
DemonicAvenger, forever fighting the fight that cannot be won.

On another note, I know that it technically isn't Edo Madara that solo'd BM Naruto and the Bijuu, but the thread link in your signature seems pretty ridiculous now.

 
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Naruto and Minato Destroy, Sadly.

Perfect Susano'Os best defensive feat is blocking the Nine Tails Bijudama. Naruto's BM Cloak is blocking the Juubi's Bijudama (Which gets transferred to Minato's BM Cloak as well.)

Perfect Susano'Os best Offensive feat was slicing multiple mountains (Not destroying all of them, so its not multi mountain). Naruto's BM Cloak is clashing with an Island fuker (which gets transferred to Minato as well)

Sasuke's PS is featless as well, and not all Susano'O are equal, not only that but Sasuke was exhausted after just one attack in the Susano'O after having his chakra replentished.
 
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