EMS Sasuke don't have an full stabilised Perfect Susanoo, unlike Madara !!!!

[xxxLegacy]

How does that not make sense just because he got power from the sage doesn't mean he isn't gonna stop using his own power your logic sucks. Nope i showed manga page and all an extra arm came and grabbed his tail to try and pull the tailed beasts out of Obito.

1 Extra arm < 50 % more Susanoo

That doesn't mean his rinnegan is non existent, and what of hashiramas cells? Look not saying madara couldn't use it then, but he didn't use the full form just like sasuke, Doesn't mean they can't.

What does Hashirama cells play for a role ? They didn't have Ashura's chakra soo irrelevant

He had FAKE RINNENGAN = NO RIKUDO CHAKRA

And his Indora Chakra was already in Sasuke

Edo Madara = No Chakra from Rikudo Family and he still could use Kazentei Susanoo

 

[Styles]

1 Extra arm < 50 % more Susanoo


What does Hashirama cells play for a role ? They didn't have Ashura's chakra soo irrelevant

He had FAKE RINNENGAN = NO RIKUDO CHAKRA

And his Indora Chakra was already in Sasuke

Edo Madara = No Chakra from Rikudo Family and he still could use Kazentei Susanoo

:|That 1 extra arm you're talking about was bigger than the tails and you're saying he couldn't make his PS bigger than it actually was dafuq kinda logic is that?

@Bold that's false Sage even said Madara had his chakra because he fused Indra and Ashura chakra case closed he still had Ashura and Indra chakra which was aka Sages chakra.

 

[King Of Pop]

1 Extra arm < 50 % more Susanoo


What does Hashirama cells play for a role ? They didn't have Ashura's chakra soo irrelevant

He had FAKE RINNENGAN = NO RIKUDO CHAKRA

And his Indora Chakra was already in Sasuke

Edo Madara = No Chakra from Rikudo Family and he still could use Kazentei Susanoo

Fake rinnegan only means he can't access the rinnegans
full power. He is able to use the rinnegan in edo state because he unlocked it while alive and when he unlocked it he had access to hagoromo and indras chakra, for all we know that could have influenced his ps which was then shown when he used the rinnegan in an upgraded edo body, but I don't think so, am just stating this so you stop using that logic on sasuke and not madara.

 

[V h o]

It did sort of look like legged susanoo, but I really don't care anymore if he had PS at ems or not. Lel let the anime show people (inb4 "lol anime")

 

[riley freeman]

He has PS, If madara can why cant he? madara EMS was never stated to be special in anyway

 

[Styles]

It did sort of look like legged susanoo, but I really don't care anymore if he had PS at ems or not. Lel let the anime show people (inb4 "lol anime")

It really didn't. Look at legged Susano'o nose and shoulders pads compared to his PS.

Legged Susano'o

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Now compare all that to this it have no similarities at all.

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Hell it even have flaky skin just like PS.

 

[xxxLegacy]

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:|That 1 extra arm you're talking about was bigger than the tails and you're saying he couldn't make his PS bigger than it actually was dafuq kinda logic is that?

@Bold that's false Sage even said Madara had his chakra because he fused Indra and Ashura chakra case closed he still had Ashura and Indra chakra which was aka Sages chakra.

Yes, he mixes Ashura/Indora's chakra as he was alive, but as he died the chakra was gone...
Rinnengan to Nagato.
Ashura to Naruto.
Indora to Sasuke.

Fake rinnegan only means he can't access the rinnegans
full power. He is able to use the rinnegan in edo state because he unlocked it while alive and when he unlocked it he had access to hagoromo and indras chakra, for all we know that could have influenced his ps which was then shown when he used the rinnegan in an upgraded edo body, but I don't think so, am just stating this so you stop using that logic on sasuke and not madara.

Dude he died with some fodder Sharingan, his real Rinnengan had Nagato U_U
Edo Tensei revives you exactly how you died, only by Madara it was not the case cuz Kabuto did something.
He can't have access to Indora's chakra cuz it was already in Sasuke = He didn't have his chakra
No real Rinnengan = No Hagoromo Chakra

Edo Madara did not have any kind of Rikudo Chakra.

 

[xxxLegacy]

He has PS, If madara can why cant he? madara EMS was never stated to be special in anyway

EMS Madara could use Kazentei Susanoo....Sasuke did it with Rinnengan and Hagoromo's Power-Up


Edo Madara does not count cuz he didn't have his Samsara Eye or Indora's chakra

 

[Styles]

Yes, he mixes Ashura/Indora's chakra as he was alive, but as he died the chakra was gone...
Rinnengan to Nagato.
Ashura to Naruto.
Indora to Sasuke.


Dude he died with some fodder Sharingan, his real Rinnengan had Nagato U_U
Edo Tensei revives you exactly you died, only by Madara it was not the case cuz Kabuto did something.
He can't have access to Indora's chakra cuz it was already in Sasuke = He didn't have his chakra
No real Rinnengan = No Hagoromo Chakra

Edo Madara did not have any kind of Rikudo Chakra.

:|Madara still have Ashura and Indra's chakra and since he became jin he have Kyuubi's too now then how are you gonna deny mangaphax now?

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[xxxLegacy]

:|Madara still have Ashura and Indra's chakra and since he became jin he have Kyuubi's too now then how are you gonna deny mangaphax now?

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I am talking about Edo Madara.

With Rinnengan he never used Susanoo, this is all i wanna say, cuz someone said Madara used Kazentei Susanoo also just with Rinnengan and he meaned this FAKE EYE's without transmigration power

 

[riley freeman]

EMS Madara could use Kazentei Susanoo....Sasuke did it with Rinnengan and Hagoromo's Power-Up


Edo Madara does not count cuz he didn't have his Samsara Eye or Indora's chakra

Scan of ems using PS please, since sasuke cant use it

 

[Styles]

I am talking about Edo Madara.

With Rinnengan he never used Susanoo, this is all i wanna say, cuz someone said Madara used Kazentei Susanoo also just with Rinnengan and he meaned this FAKE EYE's without transmigration power

He have used Suano'o with that Rinnegan as an edo he was still a transmigrate why else would the Sage say that Hashi is edo and still have some of Ashura's chakra in him.

 

[xxxLegacy]

Scan of ems using PS please, since sasuke cant use it

He used it as he fought against Hashirama and Senju Clan (Ok was showed only in Anime and i am sure you guys will flame at it hmm)
He used his Kazentei Susanoo as an armor on full Kurama (wich twice as large what Sasuke covered ..argo his Susanoo is much more bigger)

If you guys will cry and say he did only cover Kurama...Ok what ever..then

He used it also as Edo Tensei without any sort of Rikudo Chakra.
It looked like he had alot of experience with his Susanoo and he also explained what for power it has.
Wich means he had it before he died argo with EMS.

 

[King Of Pop]

Yes, he mixes Ashura/Indora's chakra as he was alive, but as he died the chakra was gone...
Rinnengan to Nagato.
Ashura to Naruto.
Indora to Sasuke.


Dude he died with some fodder Sharingan, his real Rinnengan had Nagato U_U
Edo Tensei revives you exactly how you died, only by Madara it was not the case cuz Kabuto did something.
He can't have access to Indora's chakra cuz it was already in Sasuke = He didn't have his chakra
No real Rinnengan = No Hagoromo Chakra

Edo Madara did not have any kind of Rikudo Chakra.

False, his Edo rinnegan is as a result of him awakening it while alive, he stated that when he absorbed narutos attack. Him dieing without it is irrelevant as kabuto upgraded his body to a young state beyond his prime, that's a fact. So he can access the rinnegan which he had while alive, like I said before that rinnegan came when he accsessd hagoromos chakra and it could have helped in advancing to the full ps form but I don't believe so. Also hashirama still has ashuras chakra even as an Edo as hagoromo stated, its the same for madara even if he's edo. Don't see why Both madara and sasuke cant use ps on its own while in Ems, the only issue is you trying to exclude madara out of it. Just accept the fact that both in Ems showed to use just the armor in covering another entity, not only sasuke.

 

[xxxLegacy]

He have used Suano'o with that Rinnegan as an edo he was still a transmigrate why else would the Sage say that Hashi is edo and still have some of Ashura's chakra in him.

He said ''predecessor'' and no Hashirama don't have Ashura's chakra.
Madara's lower half had already Ashura's cahkra in it...Hashirama was irrelevant.

Hagromo already said..the transmigration is already over, cuz Indora is in Sasuke and the same with Hashirama

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[bencoby]

The term perfect Susanoo is wrong anyway. That description is misleading.

If that is the case then every susanoo user had a perfect susanoo at a point in time.

 

[xxxLegacy]

False, his Edo rinnegan is as a result of him awakening it while alive, he stated that when he absorbed narutos attack. Him dieing without it is irrelevant as kabuto upgraded his body to a young state beyond his prime, that's a fact. So he can access the rinnegan which he had while alive, like I said before that rinnegan came when he accsessd hagoromos chakra and it could have helped in advancing to the full ps form but I don't believe so. Don't see why Both madara and sasuke cant use ps on its own while in Ems, the only issue is you trying to exclude madara out of it. Just accept the fact that both in Ems used just the armor in covering another entity, not only sasuke

FAKE RINNENGAN = NO RIKUDO CHAKRA

It's irrelevanz that he used Rinnengan or not, this eyes didn't have the power of transmigration !

Kabuto believed he did upgrade him beyond his prime, but it's not true other wise Hashirama would not say shoked ''Madara somehow gained his old power'' Kabuto made him just younger and that cuz of Plot....

 

[Styles]

He said ''predecessor'' and no Hashirama don't have Ashura's chakra.
Madara's lowe half had already Ashura's cahkra in it...Hashirama was irrelevant.

Hagromo already said..the transmigration is already over, cuz Indora is in Sasuke and the same with Hashirama

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So you deny this page when he clearly said it was thanks to Ashura and Indra and Kyuubi chakra they still have some chakra of Indra and Ashura left in them

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If that is the case then every susanoo user had a perfect susanoo at a point in time.

Only 3 Known PS users and 2 of which had EMS Indra is a special case.

 

[riley freeman]

He used it as he fought against Hashirama and Senju Clan (Ok was showed only in Anime and i am sure you guys will flame at it hmm)
He used his Kazentei Susanoo as an armor on full Kurama (wich twice as large what Sasuke covered ..argo his Susanoo is much more bigger)

If you guys will cry and say he did only cover Kurama...Ok what ever..then

He used it also as Edo Tensei without any sort of Rikudo Chakra.
It looked like he had alot of experience with his Susanoo and he also explained what for power it has.
Wich means he had it before he died argo with EMS.

I didnt see PS, i saw a nine tails covered in susanoo
again if sage chakra boosted susanoo, why didnt amaterasu change?

 

[bencoby]

So you deny this page when he clearly said it was thanks to Ashura and Indra and Kyuubi chakra they still have some chakra of Indra and Ashura left in them

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Only 3 Known PS users and 2 of which had EMS Indra is a special case.

I also know of only 3 susanoo users so i don't known what you are trying to imply.