EMS Sasuke and Killer Bee vs BSM Naruto

[Beans2]

Distance: 40 meters
Restrictions: Any bijuudama larger than normal size not allowed, for both sides

Scenario 1: As above
Scenario 2: As above without the restriction.
Scenario 3: Juugo is added to team 1 to provide Sasuke's Susano'o a senjutsu boost
Scenario 4: Juugo is added to team 1 and there are no restrictions.

 

[Kagustuchi]

Naruto wins all scenarios

 

[Bronze]

Team 1 wins all scenario.

 

[Zee U]

Killer B doesn't bring much to the table honestly, his durability is piss poor before the avatar and PS (seeing he was incapacitated by a standard Bijuudama) and his firepower isn't comparable to BSM Naruto. Sasuke may win scenario 1 and he takes scenario 3 if Super Bijuudamas are restricted, but he loses the rest.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Sasuke uses Iso Susanoo on Gyuuki, making a PS+Hachimaki combo. Which opens a gap to finish it with TBB.

 

[KidGamer65]

^ Lol if you think Hachibi's Bijuu Dama is doing any serious damage to Naruto's Avatar.

 

[Transcendence]

Sasuke uses Iso Susanoo on Gyuuki, making a PS+Hachimaki combo. Which opens a gap to finish it with TBB.

How is that going to do anything to a BSM Kurama avatar at all?

 

[Brother Numpsay]

^ Lol if you think Hachibi's Bijuu Dama is doing any serious damage to Naruto's Avatar.

Much like you said in previous comments:

EMS Susanoo = Kurama Avatar. So their firepower would do = amount of damage.

Not only would the whirlwind create a gap of the combination of shockwaves that = TBB, but can also repel/change the trajectory of Naruto's tbb.

So yes Kurama avatar is taking serious damage, which eventually opens up to get attacks inside Kurama.

How is that going to do anything to a BSM Kurama avatar at all?

Stated above

 

[KidGamer65]

Much like you said in previous comments:

EMS Susanoo = Kurama Avatar. So their firepower would do = amount of damage.

Not only would the whirlwind create a gap of the combination of shockwaves that = TBB, but can also repel/change the trajectory of Naruto's tbb.

So yes Kurama avatar is taking serious damage, which eventually opens up to get attacks inside Kurama.



Stated above

1. EMS Sasuke's PS and Naruto's Kurama Avatar w/o sage enhancements are equal in all physical traits. Don't think I ever said that their firepower does an equal amount of damage, especially since the BM Avatar has shown much more firepower than PS.

2. Smallest Bijuu Dama and PS Slash might be equal in power, or maybe the PS Slash is a little weaker, probably much weaker in Sasuke's case since his sword slashes were getting blocked by the Avatar's individual tails, and PS Chidori was shown to be equal with RSM Naruto's standard Bijuu Dama, meaning standard Bijuu Dama>PS Slash. Not surprising since standard Bijuu Dama vaporize Mountains, PS only cuts them (and that's Madara's)

3. Even if PS Sword Slash=Standard Bijuu Dama, Bijuu Dama isn't strong enough to damage it. PS Chidori and Bijuu Dama's combined damage only took off parts of the Avatar's torso, and head at VoTE, scale that down, and one Bijuu Dama wouldn't do anything significant even if it took a direct hit. Naruto can block any Bijuu Dama with his tails, resulting in no damage done to the main body at all. BM Naruto's tails let him survive the Juubi laser at the cost of 6 of them, BSM Naruto's Avatar is more durable due to the Senjutsu enhancement.

Kurama Avatar isn't taking serious damage.

 

[Conspirator.]

Naruto wins. Hell, he could potentially beat EMS Madara w/kyuubi, let alone these 2.

 

[Beans2]

Naruto wins. Hell, he could potentially beat EMS Madara w/kyuubi, let alone these 2.

In your opinion is EMS Madara w/ Kyubi > EMS Sasuke and Hachibi with senjutsu boost to Susanoo?

 

[ARGUS]

Naruto wins all scenarios, the only scenario where team Ps-hachibi stands a chance is scenario 3

--hachibis TBB are nothing infront of The kurama avatars, especially when they are boosted even more from senjutsu. PS slashes are not doing shit to the avatar either, as they can be blocked by the tails of the avatar with little to no damage

--PS is getting breached as well. Especially by continous senjutsu TBB, as once it gets breached hachibi gets raped right afterwards when it's durability is crap infront of the senjutsu avatars.

--even outside of constructs and avatars, naruto is superior through clones, flash shunshin and moves like FRS, BDR and rasengans

In your opinion is EMS Madara w/ Kyubi > EMS Sasuke and Hachibi with senjutsu boost to Susanoo?

Without the senjutsu boost, madara is definitely stronger
With it. He is still superior, albeit with a smaller margin

 

[BlacLord™]

1. EMS Sasuke's PS and Naruto's Kurama Avatar w/o sage enhancements are equal in all physical traits. Don't think I ever said that their firepower does an equal amount of damage, especially since the BM Avatar has shown much more firepower than PS.

2. Smallest Bijuu Dama and PS Slash might be equal in power, or maybe the PS Slash is a little weaker, probably much weaker in Sasuke's case since his sword slashes were getting blocked by the Avatar's individual tails, and PS Chidori was shown to be equal with RSM Naruto's standard Bijuu Dama, meaning standard Bijuu Dama>PS Slash. Not surprising since standard Bijuu Dama vaporize Mountains, PS only cuts them (and that's Madara's)

3. Even if PS Sword Slash=Standard Bijuu Dama, Bijuu Dama isn't strong enough to damage it. PS Chidori and Bijuu Dama's combined damage only took off parts of the Avatar's torso, and head at VoTE, scale that down, and one Bijuu Dama wouldn't do anything significant even if it took a direct hit. Naruto can block any Bijuu Dama with his tails, resulting in no damage done to the main body at all. BM Naruto's tails let him survive the Juubi laser at the cost of 6 of them, BSM Naruto's Avatar is more durable due to the Senjutsu enhancement.

Kurama Avatar isn't taking serious damage.

Size doesn't equate to power. The destructive capability (in other words, it's power to penetrate) lies in the potency of an attack. Besides, the Bijuudama and PS slash are two different types of attacks; the former is a blast type and the latter is a concentrated type (like Rasengan and Chidori, another allusion to the antipode theme).

I would be seriously worried if cutting something with a sword caused an explosion. (unless they're cutting bombs). Lol

And Naruto only took the V1 Juubi's laser for a brief moment; the distortion created by Kamui was directly in front of the avatar, and would have blocked it for the time Kakashi was teleporting Gyuuki.

Anyway... Naruto and Sasuke have always been purposely portrayed as equal (when one gets on top of the other, the other steps up their game to match) and that's what happened by the end of the Juubito's "reign". Even when getting thrown back, they both lost their respective avatars.

The battle will be very Kishi... Naruto and Sasuke attacking each other and oops, would you look at that? They keep coincidentally landing at the same time, and deliver the same amount of power.

Wouldn't have seen that coming.

Then once everyone is forcibly down powered from inability to maintain avatars because of they're extended equal (seemingly pointless) clash which exhausted them, it'll simply be Base Naruto vs. Base Sasuke and Base Bee.

If Naruto can make/hide a Kage Bunshin to gather chakra and natural energy for SM whilst holding off the belligerents, then he can pull a draw because there's no way Base Sasuke nor Base Bee can pull a win against SM Naruto.

If not, Bee and Saucey take this very high-diff.

 

[KidGamer65]

Size doesn't equate to power. The destructive capability (in other words, it's power to penetrate) lies in the potency of an attack. Besides, the Bijuudama and PS slash are two different types of attacks; the former is a blast type and the latter is a concentrated type (like Rasengan and Chidori, another allusion to the antipode theme).

I would be seriously worried if cutting something with a sword caused an explosion. (unless they're cutting bombs). Lol

Doesn't mean that they can't be equal in power, so I don't know what you are getting at here. Not to mention I never said anything that'd imply size=power.

And Naruto only took the V1 Juubi's laser for a brief moment; the distortion created by Kamui was directly in front of the avatar, and would have blocked it for the time Kakashi was teleporting Gyuuki.

We would have seen it being blocked from hitting Naruto, but instead, we

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it hit him. If it hit the barrier, it wouldn't have branched off like that,

Anyway... Naruto and Sasuke have always been purposely portrayed as equal (when one gets on top of the other, the other steps up their game to match) and that's what happened by the end of the Juubito's "reign". Even when getting thrown back, they both lost their respective avatars.



The battle will be very Kishi... Naruto and Sasuke attacking each other and oops, would you look at that? They keep coincidentally landing at the same time, and deliver the same amount of power.

Wouldn't have seen that coming.

Then once everyone is forcibly down powered from inability to maintain avatars because of they're extended equal (seemingly pointless) clash which exhausted them, it'll simply be Base Naruto vs. Base Sasuke and Base Bee.

If Naruto can make/hide a Kage Bunshin to gather chakra and natural energy for SM whilst holding off the belligerents, then he can pull a draw because there's no way Base Sasuke nor Base Bee can pull a win against SM Naruto.

Except they haven't. Not always, and definitely not here, so that invalidates the rest of the post. Them losing their respective Avatars when Juubito slammed them only means that their Avatars are just as durable as each other, not that overall, BSM Naruto=EMS Sasuke. Even at VoTE, Naruto was matching Sasuke with his tails and a standard Bijuu Dama before the latter got the Bijuu. Naruto has shown much stronger things than a mere Standard Bijuu Dama, so they weren't equal there either.

 

[Conspirator.]

In your opinion is EMS Madara w/ Kyubi > EMS Sasuke and Hachibi with senjutsu boost to Susanoo?

Well, with a senjutsu boost from Juugo, I think Sasuke's PS would be a little above Madara's, but then the Kyuubi(even retarded Kurama at the VOTE) is>>>Hachibi. Therefore, I still think EMS Madara w/Kyuubi is stronger.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Naruto destroys.

He might only use normal TBBs but nothing stops him from firing a dozen.

 

[QdonEms]

sasuke and bee win if they use PS covered 8 tails.

 

[KingHashirama]

Killer b and Sasuke.......

 

[Unorthodox]

Sasuke v3 with kurama cloak = BSM Kurama

Witch feat wise has nothing on Perfect susanoo Sasuke solos with Madz ps feats along with enton with Killerbee its a stomp

Gyuki has shown to be no weaker then the BM avatar nor has the BM avatar showed anything better then the BSM avatar

 

[ARGUS]

Sasuke v3 with kurama cloak = BSM Kurama

in terms of combat?, Lol thats fanfic at its finest,
alll it needs are 2-3 TBBs and the susanoo along with sasuke are eradicated

Witch feat wise has nothing on Perfect susanoo Sasuke solos with Madz ps feats

Lol in what world is Sasuke beating BSM Naruto with PS alone?

PS slashes which is the strongest attack sasuke could dish out, gets blocked by the tails with no damage whatsoever,
so that throws the option of sasuke breaching the avatar out the window,
whereas narutos senjutsu TBB barrages bust PS, and kill sasuke off,
outside of constructs, sasuke gets raped as well,

along with enton

its garbage here,

with Killerbee its a stomp

Lol no its not

Gyuki has shown to be no weaker then the BM avatar nor has the BM avatar showed anything better then the BSM avatar

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Except the fact that Killer Bee was nearly taken out by his own weaker TBB,
whilst the BM avatar tanked something superior to 9 TBB,
and BSM avatar >> BM avatar, thanks to the senjutsu boost, so what you have said above is denial at its finest