EMS-Rinnegan Madara vs. EMS-Rinnegan Sasuke

[Warlocks]

But he wasn't more "weary" of Naruto.

Except if you deny that then you're denying the manga. Momo is stronger than Kaguya. Momo was the reason she needed a zetsu army. Kaguya is immortal that's why she had to be sealed. Momo is immortal also but he needs to steal chakra/make pills to stay immortal.

He doesn't need that he has his DNA and was laterally inside the Mazo which is the Juubi's shell. And used Yamato as an extra source.

Edo Madara's wood dragon was nearly the same size as yang kurama. Hashirama's wood golem/Dragon was the same size or bigger than full kurama. Yea Madara have Hagoromo's chakra as in Rinnegan but not his actual chakra from Hagoromo himself like Sasuke does. Added that Sasuke have Hashirama's chakra and tinkered DNA just like Madara.

That depends on which Sasuke you're talking about.

nope

Kaguya>so6p>so6p bro>jj madara >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>naruto and sasuke>>>>momo

 

[Holy God]

bold is illogical considering madara was prepared to go up against both naruto and sasuke. he didnt allow shit, he genuinely got blized and had to run. stop making excuses

You do know that the Databook specifically states Naruto using Six Paths Sage Mode to be equivalent in sensing/speed to Madara, correct? You also know that Naruto reacted to Amenotejikara without even looking at Sasuke, right? Even both Shin and Momoshiki reacted and they're nothing as special. Saying Madara can't is simply illogical.

 

[bowflex]

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yes because non-jj madara is comparable to momo in reactions? smh momoshiki decimates non jj madara completely in anything speed related. he reacted to adult sasuke and narutos shunshin, fought on par with BOTH in cqc whereas jj madara who is superior to his non-jj version already got tagged by an inexperienced ameno sasuke.

madara with the juubi, shinju failed to react so him reacting without those buffs is a joke at best.use logic.


sasuke=/=tobirama and minato, not a good comparison

bold is illogical considering madara was prepared to go up against both naruto and sasuke. he didnt allow shit, he genuinely got blized and had to run. stop making excuses

please show me a scan of 2 eyed jj madara getting tagged by naruto and sasuke, a non intel 1 eyed madara got tagged by ameno twice and tanked both attacks. stop bringing that up as an excuse for ur argument. how is momoshiki relevant in this at all?

and madara seeing sasuke coming and reacting to it literally saying a full sentence standing there was a blitz? he was already going to the kamui dimension please tell me what was the point of madara dodging a blocking an attack which would do no harm to him? same shitty argument that has been destroyed in vs section plenty of times.

ok back on topic, if sasuke has half of his rikudo boost he wins, sasukes rikudo boosts is around the same rikudo boost madara got from the juubi apart from immortality and bijuus ect.. so he wins here, this is rikudo sasuke vs non rikudo madara. now if u take away both their boosts madara wins easily. im not sure which one we are debating here since OP wasnt clear at all.

as to why madara would win if both dont have their rikudo boost.

before rikudo boosts madaras PS feats just completely shit on sasuke's who didnt even really show case PS with out kurama. ameno gets reacted to easily since its an time space tech, unless u wanna argue that sasukes striking speed is the same with or without rikudo chakra. 25 mokuton susano clones, PS and meteor rain along with jukai kotan rape sasuke. what is sasuke going to do here exacty? PS chidori gets shinra tensei'd or blocked by a wood style construct. cqc sasuke gets raped due to limbo and madara's SM. really the only thing sasuke has going for him is PS which is inferiors to madara's .

 

[King Of Pop]

=Holy God;20485921]You do know that the Databook specifically states Naruto using Six Paths Sage Mode to be equivalent in sensing/speed to Madara, correct? You also know that Naruto reacted to Amenotejikara without even looking at Sasuke, right? Even both Shin and Momoshiki reacted and they're nothing as special. Saying Madara can't is simply illogical.

databook statement is completely irrelevant here when we are talking of a feat in the MANGA so dont bring up that crap. and even then the statement said naruto either meets or "exceeds" madara in his 10 tails form. naruto was able to react(though he couldnt dodge) madara didnt so naruto exceeds him if thats the case.

shin reacted to a katon after sasuke had warped some distance behind him, not when sasuke warps directly to him and thats a weakened sasuke whos reactions are obviously dulled from using a lot of chakra to move through kaguyas dimensions, says nothing about a full powered sasuke. momoshiki>>>>non-jj madara in anything speed, dont compare them. faster madara already got blized, non debatable. and even then momshiki reacting to ameno from an adult sasuke whos way stronger and faster than his newly awakened rinnegan teen self while 1 eyed jj madara couldnt would mean momo>1 eyed jj madara in reactions. simple logic, feats are feats.

=bowflex;20485958]please show me a scan of 2 eyed jj madara getting tagged by naruto and sasuke, a non intel 1 eyed madara got tagged by ameno twice and tanked both attacks. stop bringing that up as an excuse for ur argument. how is momoshiki relevant in this at all?

know what you are talking about before jumping in and make yourself look foolishly ignorant. no one said anything about 2 eye jj madara. the thread is non-jj madara and sasuke shit stomps his ass negative difficulty, end of story. read through the discussions and you would see when momoshiki was brought up which is what i responded to obv.

and madara seeing sasuke coming and reacting to it literally saying a full sentence standing there was a blitz? he was already going to the kamui dimension please tell me what was the point of madara dodging a blocking an attack which would do no harm to him? same shitty argument that has been destroyed in vs section plenty of times.

so dodging is the only way to counter an attack? how about defending with his staff and slapping sasuke way, i mean that is if he could? piss poor excuses as usual.

and i wasnt even referring to that part. he was blized twice prior to then

 

[Trollkage]

Madara stomps SAsuKue he has moe charkra hes faster smarter and has moe power sasuke dont stand chance if this was ems madara sasuke wood have a chance

 

[Styles]

He has'nt shown regeneration, momo is inferior to kaguya, she has a superior immortality, a superior rinnegan, and a kekkei mora byakugan (with more feats) , she was defeated by full powered RSM naruto with goudodama's, yang seal and all + sasuke and DMS kakashi, momo faced a weaker naruto, and no DMS kakashi, kaguya pulled a planet busting attack, momoshiki is NOT on kaguya level

Like I said they both have immorality just have different ways of having it. Kaguya became immortal from the chakra fruit. Momo need chakra pills to stay immortal and to heal his wounds. Except adult Naruto and Sasuke > final arc Naruto and Sasuke. Saying Kaguya >/Momo is simply denying what's been said in the manga.

nope

Kaguya>so6p>so6p bro>jj madara >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>naruto and sasuke>>>>momo

Not even close.

 

[bowflex]

databook statement is completely irrelevant here when we are talking of a feat in the MANGA so dont bring up that crap. and even then the statement said naruto either meets or "exceeds" madara in his 10 tails form. naruto was able to react(though he couldnt dodge) madara didnt so naruto exceeds him if thats the case.

shin reacted to a katon after sasuke had warped some distance behind him, not when sasuke warps directly to him and thats a weakened sasuke whos reactions are obviously dulled from using a lot of chakra to move through kaguyas dimensions, says nothing about a full powered sasuke. momoshiki>>>>non-jj madara in anything speed, dont compare them. faster madara already got blized, non debatable. and even then momshiki reacting to ameno from an adult sasuke whos way stronger and faster than his newly awakened rinnegan teen self while 1 eyed jj madara couldnt would mean momo>1 eyed jj madara in reactions. simple logic, feats are feats.


know what you are talking about before jumping in and make yourself look foolishly ignorant. no one said anything about 2 eye jj madara. the thread is non-jj madara and sasuke shit stomps his ass negative difficulty, end of story. read through the discussions and you would see when momoshiki was brought up which is what i responded to obv.


so dodging is the only way to counter an attack? how about defending with his staff and slapping sasuke way, i mean that is if he could? piss poor excuses as usual.

and i wasnt even referring to that part. he was blized twice prior to then

what for since sasukes atteck is harmless to him, also when did he get blitzed? once he got stabbed via ameno which was sasuke swapping places, the other he was put inbetween two attacks which he tanked and walked it off, so where was the blitz? also u cleary didnt read everything i said so u just made ur self look "foolish" but ill take the W.

 

[bowflex]

Like I said they both have immorality just have different ways of having it. Kaguya became immortal from the chakra fruit. Momo need chakra pills to stay immortal and to heal his wounds. Except adult Naruto and Sasuke > final arc Naruto and Sasuke. Saying Kaguya >/Momo is simply denying what's been said in the manga.

Not even close.

what are you saying? that momo > kaguya? lol

 

[Styles]

what are you saying? that momo > kaguya? lol

Denying that Momo > Kaguya when Sasuke and even BZ/Kaguya said that was the reason they was making a zetsu army. You might want to watch the Boruto movie. Momo is the threat that even Kaguya feared.

 

[King Of Pop]

=bowflex;20486093]what for since sasukes atteck is harmless to him

lol so he prefers to get owned and chopped in half when he has the capability to prevent it? quit making madara look stupid lmao

also when did he get blitzed? once he got stabbed via ameno which was sasuke swapping places

and thats a blitz, he wasnt aware that the sword was in front of him until he got stabbed

the other he was put inbetween two attacks which he tanked and walked it off, so where was the blitz? also u cleary didnt read everything i said so u just made ur self look "foolish" but ill take the W.

and thats a bliz. he was warped and struck with no reaction from him whatsoever until after the attack had landed.

 

[SUPERDEADLYKING]

madara saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan

 

[NarutoX28]

You do know that the Databook specifically states Naruto using Six Paths Sage Mode to be equivalent in sensing/speed to Madara, correct? You also know that Naruto reacted to Amenotejikara without even looking at Sasuke, right? Even both Shin and Momoshiki reacted and they're nothing as special. Saying Madara can't is simply illogical.

It was stated that Base RSM Naruto had reflexes on par with Juubidara.

BM + RSM Naruto could not really react to Ameno and never did in the way you're claiming. He looked at Sasuke before he even had a chance to react which even then, Chidori tagged him.

Saying Madara cannot react to Ameno isn't illogical when a stronger Madara has never shown the ability to react to it.

 

[Alien X]

What is this? :lol, NB still creating these foolish vs battles where the winner is obvious as the sun.

Madara rekts without even trying, like really?

 

[Holy God]

It was stated that Base RSM Naruto had reflexes on par with Juubidara.

BM + RSM Naruto could not really react to Ameno and never did in the way you're claiming. He looked at Sasuke before he even had a chance to react which even then, Chidori tagged him.

Saying Madara cannot react to Ameno isn't illogical when a stronger Madara has never shown the ability to react to it.

However Madara should be faster since he carries more Six Paths chakra like Kaguya. Even if he wasn't though, that's Naruto who doesn't have a special eye nor was he looking at Sasuke (in which we've seen the Sharingan can detect the build-up of chakra). Madara also doesn't even have to look in order for Limbo to be effective.

I wasn't arguing for DRSM Madara, just Holy Madara.

 

[bowflex]

lol so he prefers to get owned and chopped in half when he has the capability to prevent it? quit making madara look stupid lmao


and thats a blitz, he wasnt aware that the sword was in front of him until he got stabbed


and thats a bliz. he was warped and struck with no reaction from him whatsoever until after the attack had landed.

yes thats madara, look at him vs bijuus and gai, he's carefree also he was already going to the kamui dimension why would he try to prevent an harmless attack, he saw sasuke coming he smiled said something and left, stop making urself look stupid. same reason he rushed the bijuus with out susano or woodstyle off the bat, same reason he let gai attack him instead of ending the fight in one second with limbo. he even said it himself he's carefree due to regen.


hey but if you're too dumb to understand please let me make it easier for you, why would he try to prevent a harmless attack when he's already going to the kamui dimension to get his other eye, what would be the point? answer that question to yourself before replying with another retarded excuse.

also again him running in to a sword due to non intel is not a blitz. again him being swapped in between two attacks is not a blitz. naruto ripping kaguya's arm off is an example of a blitz. madara kicking naruto and sai when he got revived is an example of a blitz.

 

[bowflex]

What is this? :lol, NB still creating these foolish vs battles where the winner is obvious as the sun.

Madara rekts without even trying, like really?

lol these sasuke fangirls never change. they might even try to argue that he beats kaguya.

 

[King Of Pop]

=bowflex;20487253]yes thats madara, look at him vs bijuus and gai, he's carefree

he got owned in those two cases, he didnt allow anything

also he was already going to the kamui dimension why would he try to prevent an harmless attack, he saw sasuke coming he smiled said something and left,

harmless or not, getting cut when you have the power not to makes no sense. if thats the case then madara is a dumbass. what if sasuke quickly turned and finished him off while he was half? what would he do?

bol. lol nice fanfiction. he didnt smile, he complimented him, got cut and ran away. terrible madara fanboy smh

stop making urself look stupid. same reason he rushed the bijuus with out susano or woodstyle off the bat, same reason he let gai attack him instead of ending the fight in one second with limbo. he even said it himself he's carefree due to regen.

rushing the bijjus without using any technique says nothing about allowing them to hit to hit him so stop being an idiot. he used soosano eventually, it got shat one along with madara.
he dint let gai hit him as he said he wouldnt allow himself be hit by gai while the latter was using evening elephant. try again

hey but if you're too dumb to understand please let me make it easier for you, why would he try to prevent a harmless attack when he's already going to the kamui dimension to get his other eye, what would be the point? answer that question to yourself before replying with another retarded excus

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excuses. ive noticed madara tards always come up with severe excuses whenever he gets his arrogant ass owned. non- the less like i said i wasnt referring to that attack where he was cut in two so its irrelevant anyway

also again him running in to a sword due to non intel is not a blitz. again him being swapped in between two attacks is not a blitz. naruto ripping kaguya's arm off is an example of a blitz. madara kicking naruto and sai when he got revived is an example of a blitz.

he couldnt perceive the attack before he got stabbed, a bliz. he was warped and hit with an exclamation mark indicating surpris. a bliz, keep up the excuses

and madara didnt bliz naruto there as the latter put up his guard so he reacted.

 

[Radice]

lol these sasuke fangirls never change. they might even try to argue that he beats kaguya.

Why are you using Sasuke's avatar in first place?

Just a poor hater with folish arguments.
Change that avatar madara wanker.


Rinnegan Sasuke>>>>>>>>>Any version of Madara prior his jinchuurikin Version

 

[shelke]

The stupidity in this thread has reached critical mass. Sasuke absolutely annihilates Madara into oblivion.

 

[NarutoX28]

However Madara should be faster since he carries more Six Paths chakra like Kaguya. Even if he wasn't though, that's Naruto who doesn't have a special eye nor was he looking at Sasuke (in which we've seen the Sharingan can detect the build-up of chakra). Madara also doesn't even have to look in order for Limbo to be effective.

That clearly wasn't the case.

Base RSM Naruto still reflexes on par with Juubidara despite having less Six Paths Chakra.

Sharingan can detect chakra build-up, but that's dependent on the jutsu. Kakashi's Sharingan couldn't pick up on the chakra build-up of Shinra Tensei and Juubidara himself couldn't even sense chakra build-up within Sasuke's Eye, hence why he was left clueless and slowly processed that Sasuke didn't simply just move.

To use Limbo, Madara has to look at his target, but you're right, he doesn't need to look at his target for Limbo to be effective, but that's literally irrelevant when RSM Naruto's clones didn't have a problem tackling those Limbo clones despite the fact that he wasn't able to see them.