Ems madara vs nagato

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omfg what is with this forum's fixation on nagato.................... madara will absolutely wreck nagato... low difficulty... nagato lost to naruto like 100 chapters ago.. when he just had sage mode... and ur actually considering that nagato has even a chance of defeating madara?
 

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omfg what is with this forum's fixation on nagato.................... madara will absolutely wreck nagato... low difficulty... nagato lost to naruto like 100 chapters ago.. when he just had sage mode... and ur actually considering that nagato has even a chance of defeating madara?

How about you prove it? EMS Madara can't beat Nagato, at all.
 

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madara shouldnt have kyuubi because its in naruto. gedo mazo is alive and well and can still be summoned if nagato was alive. nagato has a counter for everything madara throws at him.

madara will absolutely wreck nagato... low difficulty
hows he gonna deal with the fact he cant kill nagatos giant multi head dog, cant counter nagatos jutsu absorbing, cant counter chibaku tensei, and the fact nagato can use his 6 paths bodies or at least should be able to if your giving madara kyuubi and susano. we have not seen ems madara fight. only kabutos rinnegan experiment.

nagato lost to naruto like 100 chapters ago.. when he just had sage mode...
as i recall naruto was flat on his back with rods sticking out of him, and about to be captured. moreover deva path fought 8 tailed naruto without any special supressing powers like uchihas and senjus have.
 

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madara shouldnt have kyuubi because its in naruto. gedo mazo is alive and well and can still be summoned if nagato was alive. nagato has a counter for everything madara throws at him.

hows he gonna deal with the fact he cant kill nagatos giant multi head dog, cant counter nagatos jutsu absorbing, cant counter chibaku tensei, and the fact nagato can use his 6 paths bodies or at least should be able to if your giving madara kyuubi and susano. we have not seen ems madara fight. only kabutos rinnegan experiment.

as i recall naruto was flat on his back with rods sticking out of him, and about to be captured. moreover deva path fought 8 tailed naruto without any special supressing powers like uchihas and senjus have.
i swear that i saw itachi 1 panel nagatos summons with amaterasu. madara does the same. perfect susanos sword slash obliterates chibaku tensei. madara can more than hold his own against nagato in cqc. you already know how good his kenjutsu is.
 

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perfect susuanoo,better rinnegan then nagato i bet,wood powers,nagato has no chance... fk i bet even sasuke can kill nagato now...
 

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i swear that i saw itachi 1 panel nagatos summons with amaterasu. madara does the same.
you didnt. madara has never shown amaterasu and every MS is different.

susanos sword slash obliterates chibaku tensei
despite the fact its never been shown as stronger than a bijuudama and KCM FRS combined. also it has mostly slicing power, not destructive power.

perfect susuanoo,better rinnegan then nagato i bet,wood powers,nagato has no chance...
nagato has perfect everything else lol :) susano is chakra. so it can be absorbed. same with wood. madaras only shown meteors and preta. hes terrible with rinnegan compared to nagato. and despite his EMS hype all hes really done is spam susano and wood this whole time. susano slowly kills the user and makes every cell hurt. nagato has probably the most chakra out of anyone whos not a bijuu and besides third raikage, the only person in the series who could physically fight a bijuu toe to toe and live.
 

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you didnt. madara has never shown amaterasu and every MS is different.

despite the fact its never been shown as stronger than a bijuudama and KCM FRS combined. also it has mostly slicing power, not destructive power.

nagato has perfect everything else lol :) susano is chakra. so it can be absorbed. same with wood. madaras only shown meteors and preta. hes terrible with rinnegan compared to nagato. and despite his EMS hype all hes really done is spam susano and wood this whole time. susano slowly kills the user and makes every cell hurt. nagato has probably the most chakra out of anyone whos not a bijuu and besides third raikage, the only person in the series who could physically fight a bijuu toe to toe and live.
its stated that you need tsukiyomi and amaterasu to attain susano. if you think the orb is more durable than 3 mountains and a meteor then your crazy.
 

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sasuke has no tsukiyomi. if he did we'd have seen "tsukiyomi" when he casts a genjutsu.
it took two mountain busters to bring down an incomplete orb. madara for one wont know wtf is happening unlike naruto whos faced it before and warned itachi
 

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Here is my argument.


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Even if Madara has some automatic right to Kyubi

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Eight tales is the size of a pebble compared to it, mean time Madara is at the center being turned into blood rice. Perfect Susanoo is the size of a mountain.

While 8 tailes struggles to get out, Nagato flies up there and absorbs him, PS can also be absorbed, or ripped to pieces with repulsive and attractive forces.
 
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Yeah? and EMS madara was before the kyuubi is sealed in naruto. Oh wait!!! nagato is sealed in totsuka sword
these threads have nothing to do with the time of the series ! when madara possesed the EMS he had the kyuubi
The Kyuubi wouldn't pose a threat to Nagato anyways. It would just get in the way.
 

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The Kyuubi wouldn't pose a threat to Nagato anyways. It would just get in the way.

True.

Nagato could just eat it.

Eat all of it's attacks.

Fly around it, or through it.

Nagat's dragon could just rip out Madara's soul, and if this is health Nagato, this is not even a discussion.

Who is to say Madara can even maintain PS for so long if he is not an Edo.
 

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sasuke have tsukyomi he casted it on bee
every time we see tsukiyomi its stated its being used on the page. sasukes attack wasnt stated to be anything but a regular MS illusion

hanzo dodged that dragon with just body flicker jutsu
hanzo, the man who took down prime mifune, prime tsunade, and 2 other younger sannin, injured prime nagato with a trap, and was feared by EVERYONE

don't forget madara have a kyuubi. Bijudama + susanoo slash = no chibaku tensai
bijudama + susano slash should kill anyone who cant use preta path from what ive seen. so how come hashirama survived. clearly FRS >susano slash. incomplete SM naruto sliced like 4 mountains during training.
 

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Madara's Susanoo would easily escape chibaku tensei, and it would also withstand shinra tensei
 

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dude, hanzo dodged that dragon with just body flicker jutsu its not a big threat.

Hanzo used teleportation, not body flicker, they could not be further from the same.

every time we see tsukiyomi its stated its being used on the page. sasukes attack wasnt stated to be anything but a regular MS illusion

hanzo, the man who took down prime mifune, prime tsunade, and 2 other younger sannin, injured prime nagato with a trap, and was feared by EVERYONE

bijudama + susano slash should kill anyone who cant use preta path from what ive seen. so how come hashirama survived. clearly FRS >susano slash. incomplete SM naruto sliced like 4 mountains during training.

Mean while Nagato flies to Susanoo and devours a hole in it to each Madara, then uses Human path to kill Madara, one down.
 
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