EMS Madara vs. Nagato

[The Grand Pubba]

Location: Where Nagato/Itachi vs. Killer Bee/Naruto
Distance: 20 meters
Mindset: Win at all costs
IMPORTANT:
- Madara does not have acess to the Nine-Tails
-Nagato can use Gedo statue
- Nagato is healthy like he was against Itachi/Naruto/Killer Bee but not Edo
- Madara is like he was when he fought Hashirama in the Final Valley ( No Edo + Wood + Rinnegan)

Combatants:

EMS Madara:

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Nagato:

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This is a tough match with the inclusion of the Titan Susanoo that Madara has (my name for his perfect form) while Nagato has Gedo and CT and Nuke level Shinra Tensei.

 

[Midday]

Nagato. Gedo Mazo with 1-7 tailed beast > Madara's susanoo, there's also petra path which can be used to absorb it.

 

[Ryuu..]

Wasn't this made only yesterday? Search bar?

 

[Tosen]

EMS Madara still pulls it off. The Susano should slash through Chibaku tensei has it busted through mountains.

 

[Aominecchi]

Madara

 

[Munboy]

Madara wins. Especially since this is the Nagato who fought Naruto, Bee and Itachi - he can't move.

 

[Vin Thora]

Nagato. I dont need to explain. If someone bothers challenging this notion, I'll give a comprehensive reply.

 

[hatakii kakashii]

madara med to high def

 

[ElectricClover]

Of course Nagato. Gedo mazo>=perfect susano'o so don't bring that up. Nagato can absorb susano'o anyway. Rinnegan>EMS.

 

[arv993]

ems madara still pulls it off. The susano should slash through chibaku tensei has it busted through mountains.

whatttt?

 

[arv993]

what type of gedo mazo is the key

 

[TobisPawn]

Nagato.

He can absorb Madara's Susanoo and any other chakra based attack. Shinra Tensei should handle Madara's sword swings. And Gedo Mazo alone can probably destroy Madara's Susanoo as of now.

 

[Munboy]

Nagato with Gedo Mazo could possibly win, however his mobility is a real hindrance - he cannot compete comfortably and will lose times due to that.

It is also worth noting that the slashes from Madara's perfected Susanoo are not chakra.

 

[TobisPawn]

Nagato with Gedo Mazo could possibly win, however his mobility is a real hindrance - he cannot compete comfortably and will lose times due to that.

It is also worth noting that the slashes from Madara's perfected Susanoo are not chakra.

Shouldn't Shinra Tensei (

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) be capable of countering a sword swing?

 

[Red Slayer]

Madara!!!!!!!!!

 

[Munboy]

Shouldn't Shinra Tensei (

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) be capable of countering a sword swing?

I'm certain of that. However I felt that detail - Madara's slashes not being chakra - should be considered. Especially with Shinra Tensei's five second window.

I don't like stationary Nagato's chances here, however with the right summon I reckon he can possibly win. If he works a strategy - utilsing a chameleon - his chances of winning multiply tenfold.

Madara, however, isn't like any other Uchiha. He will be a lot more troublesome than Itachi.
For example say Shinra Tensei blows his Susanoo away, but it tries to hold down (akin to what Sasuke's Susanoo did with Danzo's Baku) and Madara uses that chance to use explosive tagged kunai or his fan?

From what I can gather, at the moment, EMS Madara is the only full blooded Uchiha who can challenge Nagato.
However Preta Path would mean Madara has to go in close combat, which I see being bad for a stationary Nagato rather than a mobile Nagato.

Makes you really wonder when upon closer inspection EMS Madara has better chances against a stationary Nagato (close combat).

 

[TobisPawn]

I'm certain of that. However I felt that detail - Madara's slashes not being chakra - should be considered. Especially with Shinra Tensei's five second window.

I don't like stationary Nagato's chances here, however with the right summon I reckon he can possibly win. If he works a strategy - utilsing a chameleon - his chances of winning multiply tenfold.

Madara, however, isn't like any other Uchiha. He will be a lot more troublesome than Itachi.
For example say Shinra Tensei blows his Susanoo away, but it tries to hold down (akin to what Sasuke's Susanoo did with Danzo's Baku) and Madara uses that chance to use explosive tagged kunai or his fan?

From what I can gather, at the moment, EMS Madara is the only full blooded Uchiha who can challenge Nagato.
However Preta Path would mean Madara has to go in close combat, which I see being bad for a stationary Nagato rather than a mobile Nagato.

Makes you really wonder when upon closer inspection EMS Madara has better chances against a stationary Nagato (close combat).

I think if Nagato lacks mobility, the sides would be tipped a little in EMS Madara's favor. But if Nagato is at full health and has mobility, he has the better chance of winning.

 

[Munboy]

I think if Nagato lacks mobility, the sides would be tipped a little in EMS Madara's favor. But if Nagato is at full health and has mobility, he has the better chance of winning.

I completely agree with you there.

 

[TheSages456]

ems madara wins. madaras susano is bigger than chibaku tensei. it will destroy it with the swing of its sword. shinra tensei is tanked. summons are taken out easily. asura paths missles are tanked. hell realm is useless. nagato wont be able to lay his hand on madara to use human path. i don believe that nagato can absorb susano. if he can he wont have enough time to do it. susano can smash him before he has a chance to absorb the entire susano.

 

[MrLukyso]

Shouldn't Shinra Tensei (

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Ofcourse not, Shinra Tensei is not even near to that kind of power, and it was just and easy attack, if he would go really all in with a sword slash well it would probably wipe out a country.. U_U

Battle experience is a HUGE factor and Madara has really more of it, some might say Nagato was in war, but how much it lasted after Jirayas trainings ? Couple years? Well Madara spent all his life on battlefield fighting sick mans as Hashirama and other Senjus.

Also Madara is much more MUCH MORE intelligent in a BATTLE he's not smart in overall but in BATTLE he's very very intelligent I would say more intelligent than Itachi cause still Experience gives it all. He would definetly think of a plan, since with EMS he can read the Uchiha tablet of how to get Rinnegan he knows about it, maybe everything, maybe not.