EMS Madara vs Healthy Nagato

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Lol I kinda forgot what's horizontal and what vertical."facepalm"

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

If only Nagato had some way of absorbing chakra based attacks like Perfect Susanoo.

Lets say the shockwave (Even though it defy's physics and can't possible be a shockwave) isn't chakra based. Shinra Tensei blocks it.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Only because of ps madara is a step ahead of nagato other then that nagato would win ..

 

[genii96]

CT is never giving nagato the win against madara, it isnt doing anything against PS except getting destroyed,
@Bold - What got you into this conclusion??,

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, the gap in their size isnt large at all


The height of CT above the ground makes no difference at all,
First of all, PS is far more durable than KCM Naruto, hachibi and Itachis V3 susanoo. as the trio had more than enough time to fire off their long range attacks towards the CT despite being pulled up,

Secondly,

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and madara also doesnt have to worry about the aim,

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and easily enable madara to destroy the orb before it formulates too much,

and even if madara lets nagato formulate a CT to its full extents, he still wont need more than a few slashes to completely eradicate the orb, not to mention that nagatos CT lacks the firepower to bypass PS, nor would it do anything to madara, meaning that it just gets destroyed,


Completely irrelevantt, since madara has more than enough durability through his PS to tank ALL of nagatos attacks with ease, and Nagatos CT is not doing anything at all to PS at all,
especially when madaras PS slashes have the multiple mountain range to reach the attracting orb regardless of itss height, as well as the DC of slashing 5 mountains within one slash, to eradicate the orb with ease,

i will be generous and say that madara needs 3 slashes to eradiicate the FULL formed CT
however nothing in NAgatos arsenal including CT is doing anything to PS at all.

1) those mountains are far away,yet still look as big as PS showing just how much bigger they are,PS infused kurama was much smaller than the mountains around too

2)that was a kabuto controlled nagato,when nagato himself did it through pain,kyubi could fire only one fast bijudama before it was sucked up,and it was much bigger than what edo nagato did,not to mention the fact that itachi and naruto had enough time for a chit chat and to charge their moves,they were pulled much slower than what nagato himself did through the deva path. Even if that were the case,a PS slash wont travel through the air,the scan of sasuke shows him coming right on the CT and cutting it,thus using the earth as a medium,not the air,he didnt stay at a distance to slash,slash at the meteor itself is the same as slashing close to the ground,as they are both earth and rocks. He never slashed at thin air and made a shockwave,nor did madara's downward vertical slash on hashi make a shockwave before it was stopped. The mere fact he had to get so close to the orbs to slash them proves the point. Madara isnt sending any shockwaves at the orb unless there is an eartgly connection between the orb and the ground.


3) DC of PS slashes are just taking off mountain tops,a bijudama vapourizes a full mountain,yet it still needed extra firepower.. Also PS slashes actually cant go through a mountain,it only hits a mountain and stops,never goes beyond,only time it actually hit several was when they were at different locations,place 5 consecutive mountains,one behind the other,and only the first will be affected. DC that takes mountain tops worth of rock vs a CT orb that makes full mountains look small. Not to mention due to the sheer gravitational pressure present,the rocls there are far more durable than normal. Multiple slashes,which isnt even oossible unless he actually slashes at the orb itself=multiple mountain tops worth of rock=laughable for a CT.
It dosent have to bust PS,just keep it there,and PS cant block gravity,thus the gravitational pressure exerted by the orb will still affect him,,the fact that there is no air,and he cant hold PS forever means he died eventually. 3 PS slashes eradicating the one pain formed is a joke,let alone one from nagato. It dosent matter if the shockwave is pulled up,there are mountain worth of rocks between PS and the rocks round the orb,the waves will have to go through each of them continously for a distance of about 2km-6km(cloud distance) by the time it reaches the orb its power would be quite minimal.

4)PS durabilty is completely useless,as nagato can target madara himself and ignore PS,since madara is a seperate mass than PS. Like i showed,he can affect an object behind another object due to his gravitational abilities,and gravitational forces btw cant be blocked by physical masses,if nagato wants a shinra tensei on madara's face,PS cant stop it,cuz it isnt going through PS,it dosent have to,it just appears on madara's face. Unless PS can stop gravitational fields/forces,it holds no protection for madara at all.

 

[ARGUS]

1) those mountains are far away,yet still look as big as PS showing just how much bigger they are,PS infused kurama was much smaller than the mountains around too

@Bold - wrong, PS itself is larger than Full Kurama,
PS simply armored the kurama thus the structure still had the same shape and size of kurama, therefore the size comparison that you are making is wrong,

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the size difference between PS and Kurama is obvious

2)that was a kabuto controlled nagato,when nagato himself did it through pain,kyubi could fire only one fast bijudama before it was sucked up,and it was much bigger than what edo nagato did,not to mention the fact that itachi and naruto had enough time for a chit chat and to charge their moves,they were pulled much slower than what nagato himself did through the deva path. Even if that were the case,a PS slash wont travel through the air,the scan of sasuke shows him coming right on the CT and cutting it,thus using the earth as a medium,not the air,he didnt stay at a distance to slash,slash at the meteor itself is the same as slashing close to the ground,as they are both earth and rocks. He never slashed at thin air and made a shockwave,nor did madara's downward vertical slash on hashi make a shockwave before it was stopped. The mere fact he had to get so close to the orbs to slash them proves the point. Madara isnt sending any shockwaves at the orb unless there is an eartgly connection between the orb and the ground.

@Bold thats wrong,
to form a shockwave, a blade has to be swung, therefore forming an arc length

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the fact that

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just makes it even easier for madara to attack it, as the CT orb is getting wrecked by no more than 2-3 slashes

using madaras CT orbs as an example is completely irrelevant since his

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and were much much larger and stronger than nagatos CT,
and you are also wrong about sasukes vertical slash,

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3) DC of PS slashes are just taking off mountain tops,a bijudama vapourizes a full mountain,yet it still needed extra firepower.. Also PS slashes actually cant go through a mountain,it only hits a mountain and stops,never goes beyond,only time it actually hit several was when they were at different locations,place 5 consecutive mountains,one behind the other,and only the first will be affected. DC that takes mountain tops worth of rock vs a CT orb that makes full mountains look small. Not to mention due to the sheer gravitational pressure present,the rocls there are far more durable than normal. Multiple slashes,which isnt even oossible unless he actually slashes at the orb itself=multiple mountain tops worth of rock=laughable for a CT.

DC of cutting mountains is more than enough to destroy the CT orb before it formulates too much,,
actually one or two slashes alone would crush the CT that was formed by deva as well,
furthermore KN6 TBB is nowwhere near a TBB from full kurama, which was tanked by ease through PS
PS slashes dont need to go beyond the mountains to crush CT

@Bold - No, the gravitational pressure is no where near enough to affect madara from slashing his sword, and the attractiive force will just make it even easier for madara to attack the orb,
Lol, CT is not withstanding any more than 2/3 PS slashes, especially going by the fact that

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It dosent have to bust PS,just keep it there,and PS cant block gravity,thus the gravitational pressure exerted by the orb will still affect him,,the fact that there is no air,and he cant hold PS forever means he died eventually. 3 PS slashes eradicating the one pain formed is a joke,let alone one from nagato. It dosent matter if the shockwave is pulled up,there are mountain worth of rocks between PS and the rocks round the orb,the waves will have to go through each of them continously for a distance of about 2km-6km(cloud distance) by the time it reaches the orb its power would be quite minimal.

It gets busted before it does anything even remotely effective to PS,
madara wont just stand there and let the core formulate too much, and even if it does,
you have yet to prove that CT could withstand the firepower of PS

4)PS durabilty is completely useless,as nagato can target madara himself and ignore PS,since madara is a seperate mass than PS. Like i showed,he can affect an object behind another object due to his gravitational abilities,and gravitational forces btw cant be blocked by physical masses,if nagato wants a shinra tensei on madara's face,PS cant stop it,cuz it isnt going through PS,it dosent have to,it just appears on madara's face. Unless PS can stop gravitational fields/forces,it holds no protection for madara at all.

Lol, how is PS durability useless, when nagato has no way of bypassing it at all,
all of his attacks are rendered useless in front of it, and he has nothing aggainst its firepower at alll,
naruto, itachi and bee were barely affected by the CT gravitational pull and had enough time for dialogue and fire off their technique to destroy the orb,
madara cna crush the orb with utmost ease

Madara swings his blade once, nagatoo can use CST to repel it,
madara swings his blade again, and nagato dies, its as simple as that,

 

[KidGamer65]

4)PS durabilty is completely useless,as nagato can target madara himself and ignore PS,since madara is a seperate mass than PS. Like i showed,he can affect an object behind another object due to his gravitational abilities,and gravitational forces btw cant be blocked by physical masses,if nagato wants a shinra tensei on madara's face,PS cant stop it,cuz it isnt going through PS,it dosent have to,it just appears on madara's face. Unless PS can stop gravitational fields/forces,it holds no protection for madara at all.

Wow...this is probably some of the worst fanfic I've ever read from any Nagatard supporter. Here I thought you couldn't come up with anything worse than the stuff you already say.

 

[genii96]

Wow...this is probably some of the worst fanfic I've ever read from any Nagatard supporter. Here I thought you couldn't come up with anything worse than the stuff you already say.

dosent really mean much coming from a wood rider and sasuke D-riderLol
since you clearly skimmed it as usual ill just repost it

- attacks kakashi while directly behind asura path without moving the path at all

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thus attacking an object while behind another one.
PS cant help madara because it wont block the attack as the attack wont make contact with PS nor does it have to go through it,physical objects cant block off a gravitational force.
Understand now?

 

[KidGamer65]

dosent really mean much coming from a wood rider and sasuke D-riderLol
since you clearly skimmed it as usual ill just repost it

- attacks kakashi while directly behind asura path without moving the path at all

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thus attacking an object while behind another one.
PS cant help madara because it wont block the attack as the attack wont make contact with PS nor does it have to go through it,physical objects cant block off a gravitational force.
Understand now?

Asura Path isn't a wall blocking Kakashi from Deva like Susanoo does for Madara, so once again you make no sense as there is nothing blocking the attraction force from reaching Kakashi. Just more Nagato wank that you pulled out of your ass. He pulls things in, using himself as the center of attraction. If he's the center, and a repulsive force is shot from where he stands, its going to hit whatever is in front of him first. Its not going to magically phase through Susanoo. That's the equivalent of saying Nagato is going to use Shinra Tensei on an object inside of a box.

Though I already know you'll pull more BS out of your arse so I'm not gonna bother arguing this for too long.

 

[ad0]

CT is never giving nagato the win against madara, it isnt doing anything against PS except getting destroyed,
@Bold - What got you into this conclusion??,

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, the gap in their size isnt large at all


The height of CT above the ground makes no difference at all,
First of all, PS is far more durable than KCM Naruto, hachibi and Itachis V3 susanoo. as the trio had more than enough time to fire off their long range attacks towards the CT despite being pulled up,

Secondly,

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and madara also doesnt have to worry about the aim,

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and easily enable madara to destroy the orb before it formulates too much,

and even if madara lets nagato formulate a CT to its full extents, he still wont need more than a few slashes to completely eradicate the orb, not to mention that nagatos CT lacks the firepower to bypass PS, nor would it do anything to madara, meaning that it just gets destroyed,


Completely irrelevantt, since madara has more than enough durability through his PS to tank ALL of nagatos attacks with ease, and Nagatos CT is not doing anything at all to PS at all,
especially when madaras PS slashes have the multiple mountain range to reach the attracting orb regardless of itss height, as well as the DC of slashing 5 mountains within one slash, to eradicate the orb with ease,

i will be generous and say that madara needs 3 slashes to eradiicate the FULL formed CT
however nothing in NAgatos arsenal including CT is doing anything to PS at all,


You are wrong,,since the scan you posted involved the PS slash to be horizontal,
and the shockwaves simply correspond to the direction of the slash
you cant have a horizontal shockwave from a vertical slash, its just unheard of, and just wrong,

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as shown by sasuke, and the

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and inb4 sasuke =/= madara,
madara can still use his PS slash vertically and his shockwave would correspond to that as well


Thats wrong, hashirama ussed the mokuton hobi to catch the PS blade,,
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mokuton hobi was used ON TOP of the golem



Lmao the wank is strong in this one,
nothing short of PS (which is his full power) is even worth mentioning for madara,
and BM MInato > EMS Madara (w/o kyuubi) > Nagato

How can minato be stronger than EMS Madara or SM Harshiram?

 

[ARGUS]

How can minato be stronger than EMS Madara or SM Harshiram?

if madara has a kyuubi then he beats BM Minato
If not then madara would lose
Hashirama on the other hand would beat him

 

[Demonic.]

if madara has a kyuubi then he beats BM Minato
If not then madara would lose
Hashirama on the other hand would beat him

You're going to rustle some Madara fans with this statement lol

 

[ARGUS]

You're going to rustle some Madara fans with this statement lol

I like madara
But that doesn't mean that I wank over him
BM minato beats him if he lacks kyuubi . And that's the truth

 

[ad0]

I like madara
But that doesn't mean that I wank over him
BM minato beats him if he lacks kyuubi . And that's the truth

So as per you its like this:

SM Hashirama>BM Minato>EMS Madara

Then why did Hashirama take him seriously and BM Minato following his orders? and not for Obito

Hashirama Taking his birth jutsu Seriously

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BM Minato Following Hashirama Orders

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Hashirama last battle was with EMS Madara at Final Valley and he still fears that Madara what strength he displayed there

 

[LustyLover]

PS murders Nagato.

 

[ARGUS]

So as per you its like this:

SM Hashirama>BM Minato>EMS Madara

Then why did Hashirama take him seriously and BM Minato following his orders? and not for Obito

Spoiler

Hashirama Taking his birth jutsu Seriously

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BM Minato Following Hashirama Orders

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Hashirama last battle was with EMS Madara at Final Valley and he still fears that Madara what strength he displayed there

Ur whole point is flawed since edo madara is much stronger than ems madara (without kyuubi)
I'm talking about ems madara. And even then he's a threat doesn't mean that either of them have admitted inferiority
So all in all
Hashirama > VOTE Madara > BM Minato > EMS madara

 

[ad0]

Ur whole point is flawed since edo madara is much stronger than ems madara (without kyuubi)
I'm talking about ems madara. And even then he's a threat doesn't mean that either of them have admitted inferiority
So all in all
Hashirama > VOTE Madara > BM Minato > EMS madara

BM Minato is a weakling man why did he die when he splitted kurama to naruto if his that strong why he cound not defend his family and him self against kyuubi hahaha. He should have able to control kurama with ease

While EMS Madara can control Kyuubi with ease either with genjutsu of with his PS

EDO Madara>EMS Madara with Kyuubi>EMS Madara>BM Minato

 

[ARGUS]

BM Minato is a weakling man why did he die when he splitted kurama to naruto if his that strong why he cound not defend his family and him self against kyuubi hahaha. He should have able to control kurama with ease

While EMS Madara can control Kyuubi with ease either with genjutsu of with his PS

That was not BM Minato, it was Alive Minato, theres a big big difference,
madara wont be able to control the kyuubi inside minato here, and genjutsu is non factor here due to partner method

EDO Madara>EMS Madara with Kyuubi>EMS Madara>BM Minato

No, EMS Madara with the kyuubi is superior to Edo Madara,
his firepower is much higher,, and all of edo madaras mokutons are non factor here infront of PS-infused TBB
PS+Kyuubi >> PS (which is still edo madaras full power)

and BM Minato is superior to EMS Madara,

 

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That was not BM Minato, it was Alive Minato, theres a big big difference,
madara wont be able to control the kyuubi inside minato here, and genjutsu is non factor here due to partner method

No, EMS Madara with the kyuubi is superior to Edo Madara,
his firepower is much higher,, and all of edo madaras mokutons are non factor here infront of PS-infused TBB
PS+Kyuubi >> PS (which is still edo madaras full power)

and BM Minato is superior to EMS Madara,

Since you say EMS Madara with Kyuubi is stronger Eao Madara you are not being honest you are just overrating Kurama chakara that's all

It already proven EDO Madara could have anihiliate Edo SM Hashirama without much effort

SM hashirama being a little stronger than EMS Madara at final valley fight in debatable but still we donot know madara full ems abilities

deal with the fact:
Edo Madara>SM Hashirama = EMS Madara with Kyuubi>EMS Madara>Edo Hashirama>>BM Minato

 

[ARGUS]

Since you say EMS Madara with Kyuubi is stronger Eao Madara you are not being honest you are just overrating Kurama chakara that's all

Lol how am i overrating the kyuubi chakra ???
Edo Madaras Full power is PS
VOTE Madaras Full Power is PS AND Kyuubi
PS & Kyuubi >> PS
its common sense

It already proven EDO Madara could have anihiliate Edo SM Hashirama without much effort

No it hasnt,
they stalemated each other, hashirama had him restrained with mokuryu, therefore making the battle more on his favor

SM hashirama being a little stronger than EMS Madara at final valley fight in debatable but still we donot know madara full ems abilities

@Bold - Lol thats just funny
Madaras Full EMS ability is PS, thats it, he cant go any further in his EMS and Edo state

deal with the fact:
Edo Madara>SM Hashirama = EMS Madara with Kyuubi>EMS Madara>Edo Hashirama>>BM Minato

Lol no,
VOTE Madara would beat Edo madara, SM Hashirama would beat Edo Madara,
--None of edo madaras mokutons have any remote factor infront of PS and Kyuubi, they get eradicated from PS slashes or TBB,
--The PS allows kurama more than enough defense to prevent it self from Edo madaras PS, as VOTE madara fires off PS-infused TBB that will wreck edo madaras PS and eradicate him,
--PS shockwaves can counter preta perfectly and even edo madaras rinnegan is useless here

as for SM Hashirama, SS GG, thats all that needs to be said,
and Lol at EMS madara being superior to Edo Hashirama,
he still uses SS and crushes madaras PS with utmost ease,

P.S - i wouldve provided scans however, im on my phone atm

 

[ad0]

Lol how am i overrating the kyuubi chakra ???
Edo Madaras Full power is PS
VOTE Madaras Full Power is PS AND Kyuubi
PS & Kyuubi >> PS
its common sense


No it hasnt,
they stalemated each other, hashirama had him restrained with mokuryu, therefore making the battle more on his favor


@Bold - Lol thats just funny
Madaras Full EMS ability is PS, thats it, he cant go any further in his EMS and Edo state


Lol no,
VOTE Madara would beat Edo madara, SM Hashirama would beat Edo Madara,
--None of edo madaras mokutons have any remote factor infront of PS and Kyuubi, they get eradicated from PS slashes or TBB,
--The PS allows kurama more than enough defense to prevent it self from Edo madaras PS, as VOTE madara fires off PS-infused TBB that will wreck edo madaras PS and eradicate him,
--PS shockwaves can counter preta perfectly and even edo madaras rinnegan is useless here

as for SM Hashirama, SS GG, thats all that needs to be said,
and Lol at EMS madara being superior to Edo Hashirama,
he still uses SS and crushes madaras PS with utmost ease,

P.S - i wouldve provided scans however, im on my phone atm

Edo madara was just toying with Edo Harshiram when he got serious what hpppend he put Edo Hashirama to the side like he was nothing

For Facts Read the Manga again and watch episodes again

ok provide scans when your back


If you want to say like this then fine:
SM Hashrama>BM Minato>Edo hashirama>Edo Madara>BM Naruto>EMS Madara>EMS Sasuke

good luck for proving others