EMS Madara vs Hashirama

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Dependent on Kurama. Hashirama needs SM to combat the PS+Kurama combination, but without Kurama, Hashirama takes this quite easily.

If this is EMS Madara (without kurama) vs Hashirama (without SM) it would be pretty much even... read my post ^^^^

 

[Unorthodox]

Mokujin and Mokuryu stalemated PS, but Mokujin and Mokuryu haven't shown the power necessary to break through PS.

Hashirama most likely outlasts Madara.




Stop wanking. The four Bijuu Dama is what blew PS and Mokujin up. Latest chapter didn't confirm shit. We have already seen Mokujin and Mokuryu stalemating Perfect Susanoo.



Fanboys....

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I never said ps destroyed mokujin right there i was referring to here

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You see that dust cloud in ps arm with its sword looks likes its an a swinging motion that mokuton mokujin being cut in 2

Mokujin didnt stalemate shit especially since it didnt attack madara ps his sword cuts mountains with ease mokujin isnt shinsuusenju its ripped to pices. Outlast HAhahahahaahah Madara used ps while completely controlling kurama and still ending up going toe 2 toe with hashi who was just a warn out as him try again

 

[Awkward Linguist]

I don't know for sure.

Madara - We haven't seen his other 2 EMS doujutsus, so we can't forget about that. Also, like Hashirama, he's a chakra tank, so he'll spam doujutsu. (He fought 8 senju's + Hashirama + Tobirama for 1 or 2 days i think full i think, in the manga before he finally ran out of chakra).

Hashirama - You know all of what he's got.

I think Madara has the slight edge in this fight, so if he can utilize it to his advantage, he'll win mid-high diff.

 

[TheSages456]

I never said ps destroyed mokujin right there i was referring to here

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You see that dust cloud in ps arm with its sword looks likes its an a swinging motion that mokuton mokujin being cut in 2

Mokujin didnt stalemate shit especially since it didnt attack madara ps his sword cuts mountains with ease mokujin isnt shinsuusenju its ripped to pices. Outlast HAhahahahaahah Madara used ps while completely controlling kurama and still ending up going toe 2 toe with hashi who was just a warn out as him try again

madaras PS sword is sticking out because hashiramas mokujin was holding its arm.

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there are dust clouds all over the battlefield, not specifically at hashirama and madaras location.

 

[KidGamer65]

I never said ps destroyed mokujin right there i was referring to here

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You see that dust cloud in ps arm with its sword looks likes its an a swinging motion that mokuton mokujin being cut in 2

Are you even reading the manga? PS's arm was being held by Mokujin's hand as shown in the scan TheSages456 posted. That is why its arm is sticking out.

Mokujin didnt stalemate shit especially since it didnt attack madara ps his sword cuts mountains with ease mokujin isnt shinsuusenju its ripped to pices. Outlast HAhahahahaahah Madara used ps while completely controlling kurama and still ending up going toe 2 toe with hashi who was just a warn out as him try again

Am I going to believe the manga or your fanboy bullshit? Oh wait, I'll believe the manga. Manga shows them stalemated, equal in combat. If you can't deal with that I suggest you stay off this thread. Its ripped to pieces thus just like it was in the manga amirite? lmao, you sound dumb.

Madara used Susanoo for a fraction of their fight, from

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and pretty much controlled Kurama the whole fight and was STILL worn out and unable to maintain Sharingan. Controlling Kurama doesn't spend as much chakra using Mokuton, Mokujin (Twice) , Mokuryu (Twice), Hotei no Jutsu, Hobi no Jutsu, and Shinsuusenju. All these structures except Hobi rival 100% Kyuubi in size while Shinsuusenju dwarfs it completely. Only an idiot would even insinuate that Madara's chakra level is on par with Hashirama's. Not to mention Hashirma feinted his ass with a clone.

Try again pal. And this time don't disregard manga fact.

 

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Are you even reading the manga? PS's arm was being held by Mokujin's hand as shown in the scan TheSages456 posted. That is why its arm is sticking out.



Am I going to believe the manga or your fanboy bullshit? Oh wait, I'll believe the manga. Manga shows them stalemated, equal in combat. If you can't deal with that I suggest you stay off this thread. Its ripped to pieces thus just like it was in the manga amirite? lmao, you sound dumb.

Madara used Susanoo for a fraction of their fight, from

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and pretty much controlled Kurama the whole fight and was STILL worn out and unable to maintain Sharingan. Controlling Kurama doesn't spend as much chakra using Mokuton, Mokujin (Twice) , Mokuryu (Twice), Hotei no Jutsu, Hobi no Jutsu, and Shinsuusenju. All these structures except Hobi rival 100% Kyuubi in size while Shinsuusenju dwarfs it completely. Only an idiot would even insinuate that Madara's chakra level is on par with Hashirama's. Not to mention Hashirma feinted his ass with a clone.

Try again pal. And this time don't disregard manga fact.

Mokujin was holding the right hand you can clearly see the left arm likes its an a moving motion with the swish looking marks.

Using all that and the end they were both at the last straw controlling kurama isnt nothing? Tsk... also hashirama would need all that to compete with ps as madara only shot 1 tbb at him also you keep saying fanboy this i would like to see Mokujin survive a flying susanoo swords along with rotating ones

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Picture that last picture with out the tbbs Mokujin is raped also it was tooken down by a base tbb from kurama while unstabilize susanoo tanked it without being sratch using that outlasting bs LMAO
not even close he cant last long against ps also there chakra is on the same level who's being a fanboy now? Cuhz

 

[KidGamer65]

Mokujin was holding the right hand you can clearly see the left arm likes its an a moving motion with the swish looking marks.

How the hell does PS swinging its blade=Mokujin being cut in half? It swung its blade before but i

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You are going to need some proof that it was cut in half in that strike.

Using all that and the end they were both at the last straw controlling kurama isnt nothing? Tsk... also hashirama would need all that to compete with ps as madara only shot 1 tbb at him also you keep saying fanboy this i would like to see Mokujin survive a flying susanoo swords along with rotating ones

Controlling Kurama is not as chakra taxing as using multiple structures that rival 100% Kurama in size and one that dwarfs it by far. Not even close. Not debatable.

Bold is irrelevant as we are talking about PS alone, not PS Kurama. PS Kurama>>PS by itself.

Picture that last picture with out the tbbs Mokujin is raped also it was tooken down by a base tbb from kurama while unstabilize susanoo tanked it without being sratch using that outlasting bs LMAO
not even close he cant last long against ps also there chakra is on the same level who's being a fanboy now? Cuhz

When you have scans of Madara being able to rapid fire his PS Blades like that then you can come back. Until then, keep your idiotic conjecture out of here.

Again, irrelevant as 100% Kurama's Bijuu Dama holds more DC than PS's Sword Slash.

Underlined is false as it already happened in the manga. Hashirama used far more chakra taxing techniques than Madara did at the VoTE and still had chakra left over to make a clone good enough for a feint. How the hell do they have the same amount of chakra? Oh wait, they don't. Hashirama has way more. Go wank Madara elsewhere pal.

 

[Bronze]

KidGamer65 and his Senju fanboying Lol

He thinks controlling 100% Kyuubi for half days + Katon that equals the size of Juubi + Amatersu + Tsuskyomi as well as PS that dwarfs Kyuubi is little chakra amount. LMAO.

even after seperated from Kyuubi, Madara still had enough chakra to destroy the remains of the Shinsuusenju + Mokujin and all of the techniques Hashirama used on him and equally stand when they were tired.

 

[Unorthodox]

How the hell does PS swinging its blade=Mokujin being cut in half? It swung its blade before but i

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You are going to need some proof that it was cut in half in that strike.


Controlling Kurama is not as chakra taxing as using multiple structures that rival 100% Kurama in size and one that dwarfs it by far. Not even close. Not debatable.

Bold is irrelevant as we are talking about PS alone, not PS Kurama. PS Kurama>>PS by itself.






When you have scans of Madara being able to rapid fire his PS Blades like that then you can come back. Until then, keep your idiotic conjecture out of here.

Again, irrelevant as 100% Kurama's Bijuu Dama holds more DC than PS's Sword Slash.

Underlined is false as it already happened in the manga. Hashirama used far more chakra taxing techniques than Madara did at the VoTE and still had chakra left over to make a clone good enough for a feint. How the hell do they have the same amount of chakra? Oh wait, they don't. Hashirama has way more. Go wank Madara elsewhere pal.

Sigh* In that scan you posted you can see mokujin wood chuncks flying around also throwing ps swords is a ps move has nothing to do with kurama if your implying that he needs kurama to do that i quit.

If your only argument is outlasting you need to leave this thread doesnt matter who has more chakra as madara can substain ps long enough to defeat him mokujin isnt surviving his sword slashes its does not have multi mountain durability.

 

[KidGamer65]

Sigh* In that scan you posted you can see mokujin wood chuncks flying around also throwing ps swords is a ps move has nothing to do with kurama if your implying that he needs kurama to do that i quit.

Are you blind? Those are rocks, not chunks of Mokujin, especially since its perfectly fine and unharmed two chapters later. Stop pulling bs out of your ass.

He broke the PS Blade off of the sword, into the Bijuu Dama and fired it like that. PS isn't tossing its blades at anyone let alone Mokujin. Get a scan or leave the thread with your conjecture.

If your only argument is outlasting you need to leave this thread doesnt matter who has more chakra as madara can substain ps long enough to defeat him mokujin isnt surviving his sword slashes its does not have multi mountain durability.

The only argument I need is the fact he can outlast Madara. Whether you like that or not doesn't really mean shit here, especially since you can't prove me wrong. Manga disagrees. Mokujin and PS were perfectly equal until Juubidama blew them up, you are going to need some evidence to back up your claim, until then I go with the manga's showing of Mokujin=PS. End result? Madara gets outlasted.

Fanboys just love going against canon don't they? Mokujin already survived a slash from Perfect Susanoo. That isn't debatable.

Don't reply again if you are going to continue with conjecture, fanboyism, denial of the manga, and bs arguments.

 

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Are you blind? Those are rocks, not chunks of Mokujin, especially since its perfectly fine and unharmed two chapters later. Stop pulling bs out of your ass.

He broke the PS Blade off of the sword, into the Bijuu Dama and fired it like that. PS isn't tossing its blades at anyone let alone Mokujin. Get a scan or leave the thread with your conjecture.



The only argument I need is the fact he can outlast Madara. Whether you like that or not doesn't really mean shit here, especially since you can't prove me wrong. Manga disagrees. Mokujin and PS were perfectly equal until Juubidama blew them up, you are going to need some evidence to back up your claim, until then I go with the manga's showing of Mokujin=PS. End result? Madara gets outlasted.

Fanboys just love going against canon don't they? Mokujin already survived a slash from Perfect Susanoo. That isn't debatable.

Don't reply again if you are going to continue with conjecture, fanboyism, denial of the manga, and bs arguments.

Mokujin in fact was cut in half by ps as you can see it in the scan you posted

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That lilttle ass bijuu dama was enough to reduce mokujin to ashes

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Broke off of not he can still throw it he breaks it off on his arm or let the sword go then throws it how can something be equal when it cant match there offensive or defensive techs?

 

[KidGamer65]

Mokujin in fact was cut in half by ps as you can see it in the scan you posted

You are going to need some proof. Mentioning my scan isn't helping cause Mokujin wasn't cut in half in the scan I posted, only an idiot would agree since it appeared two chapters later.

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That lilttle ass bijuu dama was enough to reduce mokujin to ashes

Can PS use Bijuu Dama? No, so don't mention it.

Broke off of not he can still throw it he breaks it off on his arm or let the sword go then throws it how can something be equal when it cant match there offensive or defensive techs?

Still holding on to your pathetic excuse of an argument? I'm going to need a scan or you're going to need to stop spouting shit. Madara throwing his swords is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

-Its not causing significant damage at all if he throws it, throw a sword at something and then swing a sword trying to cut something and tell me what does more damage. Mokujin has survived PS's slash, if he throws them (which is dumb) Mokujin evades.

They have already been shown to fight on par in the manga. Deal with it pal.

 

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You are going to need some proof. Mentioning my scan isn't helping cause Mokujin wasn't cut in half in the scan I posted, only an idiot would agree since it appeared two chapters later.



Can PS use Bijuu Dama? No, so don't mention it.




Still holding on to your pathetic excuse of an argument? I'm going to need a scan or you're going to need to stop spouting shit. Madara throwing his swords is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

-Its not causing significant damage at all if he throws it, throw a sword at something and then swing a sword trying to cut something and tell me what does more damage. Mokujin has survived PS's slash, if he throws them (which is dumb) Mokujin evades.

They have already been shown to fight on par in the manga. Deal with it pal.

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mokujin and ps stands the same size why does it looks like its crumbling to the ground also you can see the swish baseically like a mini shock wave suggesting mokujin has been cut in half and why wouldnt he just rebuild it he's edo?

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Look in the 1st scan he was holding ps right arms the second scan the left arm has swish sighs and you cant even see mokujin 3 scan hashirama has rocks flying by him suggestion that you his mokujin was destroyed before hand while madara has no rocks in his scan

Madara has thrown his ps sword because he has no need to also ps sword > base bijuu damas thats why i posted the scan throwing ps sword sure did wonders to shinsuusenju arms didnt they