[VS] EMS Madara VS EMS Sasuke

[lucario14]

This was the Madara that fought Hashirama so he doesn't have his chakra infused in him. He also does not have the kyuubi.

Distance - 15m
Arena - war arc ground
restrictions - Madara does not have kyuubi
Condition - Kill

 

[Inert Brian]

EMS Maddy has Kurama

Maddy med-high diffs.

 

[ChocolateVanilla]

He's not a sensor, and he doesn't have the Rinnegan at this time.
This is a situation where Amaterasu GG actually works.

 

[Inert Brian]

He's not a sensor, and he doesn't have the Rinnegan at this time.
This is a situation where Amaterasu GG actually works.

Kurama is protected by Susano'o, so no Amaterasu.

TBBs > Sasuke.

 

[ChocolateVanilla]

Kurama is protected by Susano'o, so no Amaterasu.

TBBs > Sasuke.

It takes time to summon Kurama and then armor him with PS.
With no intel on eachother, Sasuke could just snipe right at the beginning of the battle.

 

[Inert Brian]

It takes time to summon Kurama and then armor him with PS.
With no intel on eachother, Sasuke could just snipe right at the beginning of the battle.

Madara can still pull out Susano'o...? When he sees Sauce going for an MS tech, he's not going to sit there and tank it. Madara loves Susano'o spamming.

 

[ARGUS]

Madara wins this without kurama
With it he stomps

 

[Inert Brian]

Madara wins this without kurama
With it he stomps

I agree with this ^. EMS Madara has shown more feats of maintaining perfect Susano'o + controlling Kurama, compared to EMS Sasuke holding up PS.

EMS Madara w/o Kurama: High-Extreme high difficulty.

EMS Madara w/ Kurama: Mid difficulty. PS can take a few TBBs imo before it breaks.

 

[Dark Riku]

Sasuke wins.

 

[Rizengan01]

The PS that Sasuke currently has is not what his EMS self had. EMS Madara handily beats Sasuke. Current Sasuke's PS is far stronger than Madara's.

 

[ARGUS]

I agree with this ^. EMS Madara has shown more feats of maintaining perfect Susano'o + controlling Kurama, compared to EMS Sasuke holding up PS.

EMS Sasuke has no real feats with PS at all,,,,,
we cant count his new PS(GS) in his EMS form,,,

EMS Madara w/o Kurama: High-Extreme high difficulty.

This would somwhat be a battle of attrition,,,since susanoo can withstand much more than what it can output and Madaras chakra reserves have proven to be much higher than EMS sasuke due to the former having reached his prime unlike the latter

EMS Madara w/ Kurama: Mid difficulty. PS can take a few TBBs imo before it breaks.

With Kurama its heavily unbalanced,,, sasukes PS here is much smaller than madaras,,, and has shown to have no shockwaves,,,,
added with kurama being coated with PS,,, Madaras can easily fire several TBB infused with PS which sasuke has no real answer to at all,,,,

 

[lucario14]

Ok I made it so madara doesn't have kyuubi. What counter does madara have against susanoo enton kagutsuchi?

 

[ARGUS]

Ok I made it so madara doesn't have kyuubi. What counter does madara have against susanoo enton kagutsuchi?

Enton is non factor once PS comes out,,,,, its not bypassing it at all
madaras PS is much larger,,, has more blades,,, has shockwaves,,, and madara has more stamina compared to sasuke meaning he can maintain it for longer periods of time,,,
with that being said,,, madara would win this

 

[lucario14]

Enton is non factor once PS comes out,,,,, its not bypassing it at all
madaras PS is much larger,,, has more blades,,, has shockwaves,,, and madara has more stamina compared to sasuke meaning he can maintain it for longer periods of time,,,
with that being said,,, madara would win this

But sasuke has PS as well?

Edit: Are you comparing Madara's susanoo combined with the kyuubi with sasuke's combined with bsm naruto, or madara's stabilized susanoo with sasuke's winged susanoo?

 

[Rizengan01]

sasukes PS here is much smaller than madaras,,, and has shown to have no shockwaves,,,,

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is a shockwave.

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was also one.

 

[Unorthodox]

sasuke wins he could amaterasu kurama eyes out as their exposed he could also dodge everything via flight

 

[silmarill]

The one who can hold up Susanoo longer wins
The one with more chakra wins

-Madara-

 

[AizenSosuke]

Sasuke's Amaterasu is really fast and EMS Madara can't sense it. Sasuke can just use Amaterasu in the beginning. But if he doesn't snipe Madara with it, then he still wins high diff.

 

[Oblivionx]

Madara wins this without kurama
With it he stomps

this....... ..... seems people have forgotten what madara said about amaterasu... such a worthless jutsu...

 

[ARGUS]

But sasuke has PS as well?

Edit: Are you comparing Madara's susanoo combined with the kyuubi with sasuke's combined with bsm naruto, or madara's stabilized susanoo with sasuke's winged susanoo?

Im talking abuot the PS that sasuke in his EMS form used,,,
not the one he gained after getting hagoromos chakra and the rinnegan,,,

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is a shockwave.

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was also one.

Wrong,,,,
both of these are not shockwaves but rather the aftermath after sasukes attack pierced the Pillars(1) and the tree (2)