EMS Madara vs BM Minato

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Location:valley of the end

intent: same as hashi vs madara

intel:Its like they've been battling their whole lives

Restrictions: none

Madara gets Kurama, Minato also gets yin kurama(or yang which ever)

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Madara wins if he has Kurama but loses without Kurama.
 

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U shouldn't have given Kurama to Madara , Ems is enough . Minato better not uses kurama's avatar or he'll get a PS slash instantly . He should stay mobile and teleport often , that would give him a slight chance . But Madara takes this still , with or without the Kyubi
 

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Minato wins.
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U shouldn't have given Kurama to Madara , Ems is enough . Minato better not uses kurama's avatar or he'll get a PS slash instantly . He should stay mobile and teleport often , that would give him a slight chance . But Madara takes this still , with or without the Kyubi

Minato is probably still agile in his BM avatar due to FTG
 

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Madara wins if he has the kyuubi. Without the kyuubi, he loses
 

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I still don't see Madara winning this with Kurama, why?

Minato is too fast for those giant attacks and they won't hit him unless he uses his full avatar.
Minato can just teleport anything away that he can't dodge and he has more than enough chakra from Kurama.
Minato can just place a seal on Madara and sever his control from Kurama, then it will become Kurama + Yin Kurama + Minato against Madara because Kurama hates Madara.
 

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Minato can just place a seal on Madara and sever his control from Kurama, then it will become Kurama + Yin Kurama + Minato against Madara because Kurama hates Madara.

I dont know who would win but thats a good point to use.

FTG exploits shows that Susanoo can be stripped off by warping it away (the debatable discussion). once happen, Minato's superior speed should be able to at least catch him with the contract.
 

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Why do some people still think Perfect Susanoo is greater than a tailed beast, let alone a perfect Jinchuuriki tailed beast avater which is much stronger than a 100% tailed beast.

Kishi wrote that Ps has power comparable to a tailed beast, not that one was stronger than the other. Perfect Jins are much stronger than a tailed beast on its own. Now just imagine a teleporting Kurama, so many possibilities and combinations. Plus the use of long chakra arms or tails makes it easy for minato to touch Susanoo and teleport it wherever.

BM Minato med-high diff.
 

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Why do some people still think Perfect Susanoo is greater than a tailed beast, let alone a perfect Jinchuuriki tailed beast avater which is much stronger than a 100% tailed beast.

Kishi wrote that Ps has power comparable to a tailed beast, not that one was stronger than the other. Perfect Jins are much stronger than a tailed beast on its own. Now just imagine a teleporting Kurama, so many possibilities and combinations. Plus the use of long chakra arms or tails makes it easy for minato to touch Susanoo and teleport it wherever.

BM Minato med-high diff.

let me see a tailed beast do this on its own

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let me see a tailed beast do this on its own

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That sure is a formidable strength but if you think that's touching Minato you're wrong.
 

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Madara wins without Kurama. Perfect Susanoo's attacks have shown to destroy multiple attacks with 1 swine. Given off the fact that he can throw 11 of his swords at once, you have a country destruction attack.​
 

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Madara gets wrecked if he doesn't have Kurama.

He has the same avatar as BM Naruto, therefore he has BM Naruto's durability feats like blocking the juubi's laser with its tails. The juubi's laser is at least a tier above normal bijuudamas and PS slashes, so minato can take madara's hits. However the opposite isn't true as minato can produce and he can even warp them into the construct once he has PS tagged.

So minato can block multiple of madara's most powerful attacks while madara can't block minato's most powerful attack, and minato has an easier time hitting madara than madara does him due to the mobility of his construct, his ability to FTG bijuudamas into his seals and his ability to teleport himself.

With kurama, he gets the power output to exceed minato's own, and has enough nukage to level the entire battlefield removing all of the ftg tags, has the speed to hit minato and has durability that far exceeds minato (100% Kurama's tails coated in PS).
 
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Minato FTG's Kurama away. I still don't see Minato winning.
 

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Madara wins this mid diff at most now that he has the kyuubi in this battle
 
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