EMS Madara vs 6POP

[TobisPawn]

Nagato would win but Pain loses.

 

[Missing Uchiha]

Nagato would win but Pain loses.

Agreed if healthy Nagato fights he will win

 

[MrLukyso]

Madara loses. It was said without information Pain is impossible to defeat.

Was it said about Madara ? Which is the most feared Shinobi ? NO.

 

[Ame no Murakumo]

Madara was just a feared shinobi. Pain was feared enough to be called God. Without Mokuton, Rinnegan or Edo advantages, Madara doesn't have as good chance as 6 paths of Pain. If Madara summons Kyubii, then without any ground support like 6 tailed Naruto used against Deva, I don't see why Kyubii won't be knocked out miles away like Gamabunta(they have similar size). Kyubii was tossed by SM Naruto & was KOed for a long time by Rasenshuriken.

 

[MrLukyso]

Madara was just a feared shinobi. Pain was feared enough to be called God. Without Mokuton, Rinnegan or Edo advantages, Madara doesn't have as good chance as 6 paths of Pain. If Madara summons Kyubii, then without any ground support like 6 tailed Naruto used against Deva, I don't see why Kyubii won't be knocked out miles away like Gamabunta(they have similar size). Kyubii was tossed by SM Naruto & was KOed for a long time by Rasenshuriken.

You do realize that Kyuubi naruto has only has half chakra ? MAdaras Kyuubi is fully powered.

Pains doesn't have a chance.

 

[sorinseruna]

naruto fights against 6POP and win...but he doesn't fight against madara...i think 6 pop

 

[Dragon1]

You do realize that Kyuubi naruto has only has half chakra ? MAdaras Kyuubi is fully powered.

Pains doesn't have a chance.

It's funny because you can't make up for Madara's skills so you use Kurama to back up your case. Well, sorry but Kurama isn't exactly Madara's power. He CAN control Kurama, but Kurama isn't his pet. OP said there is no prep time for Madara so there is no way he can summon him just like that. Tobi also controlled Kurama, but that doesn't mean Kurama is his power.

Without knowledge Pain take this easily.

 

[darthvader5666]

Without Kyuubi, 6POP wins high diff, especially considering perfect Susanoo is restricted. With Kyuubi I'm not sure.

 

[TheSages456]

It's funny because you can't make up for Madara's skills so you use Kurama to back up your case. Well, sorry but Kurama isn't exactly Madara's power. He CAN control Kurama, but Kurama isn't his pet. OP said there is no prep time for Madara so there is no way he can summon him just like that. Tobi also controlled Kurama, but that doesn't mean Kurama is his power.

Without knowledge Pain take this easily.

nope wrong, wrong and wrong. the kyuubi is madaras pet. he used it in a fight. why isnt it his power. i guess gedo mazo isnt tobis power using your logic. its madaras kuchiyose summon.

as you can see here madara was about to summon the kyuubi but it was sealed in naruto:

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madara can just send in the kyuubi to destroy pain but he doesnt even need it.

shinra tensei-tanked with susano

bansho tenin- wont work if madara has susano up.

chibaku tensei- cut down with ease by perfect sussano

preta path- madara can take this path out easily with his kenjutsu skill

naraka path- madaras large scale katons incinerate this path easily

human path- cant get past susano to lay a hand on madara.

animal path- summons get one shotted by amaterasu

asura path- missles and lasers are tanked by susano. in the end it gets crushed by susanos fist.

 

[Dragon1]

nope wrong, wrong and wrong. the kyuubi is madaras pet. he used it in a fight. why isnt it his power. i guess gedo mazo isnt tobis power using your logic. its madaras kuchiyose summon.

as you can see here madara was about to summon the kyuubi but it was sealed in naruto:

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madara can just send in the kyuubi to destroy pain but he doesnt even need it.

shinra tensei-tanked with susano

bansho tenin- wont work if madara has susano up.

chibaku tensei- cut down with ease by perfect sussano

preta path- madara can take this path out easily with his kenjutsu skill

naraka path- madaras large scale katons incinerate this path easily

human path- cant get past susano to lay a hand on madara.

animal path- summons get one shotted by amaterasu

asura path- missles and lasers are tanked by susano. in the end it gets crushed by susanos fist.

LOL. OP said there is no Chibaku Tensei or perfect Susano'o. Even if there was, perfect Susano'o would not have managed to break Chibaku Tensei or anything. Yes, perfect Susano'o has the power of a Tailed Beast, but just that. It isn't stronger than Kurama, but is a strong as a tailed beast. Now Kurama needed 8th tails to get out of Chibaku Tensei and Pain implied that he can create even bigger one which means he can take down even Kurama.

All your answers to Pain's techs are Susano'o, but you do know that won't work all day? It costs chakra and strains the eye. Also, do you really think Madara can just crush the paths 1 by 1 without the others interfering? I find that highly unlikely.

 

[TheSages456]

LOL. OP said there is no Chibaku Tensei or perfect Susano'o. Even if there was, perfect Susano'o would not have managed to break Chibaku Tensei or anything. Yes, perfect Susano'o has the power of a Tailed Beast, but just that. It isn't stronger than Kurama, but is a strong as a tailed beast. Now Kurama needed 8th tails to get out of Chibaku Tensei and Pain implied that he can create even bigger one which means he can take down even Kurama.

All your answers to Pain's techs are Susano'o, but you do know that won't work all day? It costs chakra and strains the eye. Also, do you really think Madara can just crush the paths 1 by 1 without the others interfering? I find that highly unlikely.

madara said that only the bijuus can compare to his perfect susano. now i will go on a limb and say that he was comparing his susano to the bijuu he has been shown to have interacted with. that is the kyuubi.

there is no perfect susano or chibaku tensei. madara doesnt need perfect susano to deal with the paths. madara toys with pain worse than he toyed with the 5 kages.
he still has this susano:

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all madara has too do is take out preta path then he goes on a feeding frenzy.

preta path is taken out the same way madara took out most of the 4th division:

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the rest of the paths are taken out by madaras katons, kenjutsu, walking twin susano and are utterly shit on.

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when madara is bored with pain, he sets loose the kyuubi on the paths and they get destroyed.

 

[Dragon1]

madara said that only the bijuus can compare to his perfect susano. now i will go on a limb and say that he was comparing his susano to the bijuu he has been shown to have interacted with. that is the kyuubi.

there is no perfect susano or chibaku tensei. madara doesnt need perfect susano to deal with the paths. madara toys with pain worse than he toyed with the 5 kages.
he still has this susano:

all madara has too do is take out preta path then he goes on a feeding frenzy.

preta path is taken out the same way madara took out most of the 4th division:

the rest of the paths are taken out by madaras katons, kenjutsu, walking twin susano and are utterly shit on.

when madara is bored with pain, he sets loose the kyuubi on the paths and they get destroyed.

No, he said it's powerful as a bijuu (powerful like Shukaku and the rest of the weakling Bijuu). It's not strong as Kurama or Gyuki. Susanoo is used primary for defense and even if he attacks Preta with it, his Susanoo is gonna get absorbed. I know you're gonna tell me it will take time for it to get absorbed... no. Every other path will attack the Susanoo and it won't get any chance to retaliate. Getting absorbed and attacked from all sides...

Why are you comparing Pain to some fodder ninja's, anyway? Do you think it would be THAT easy for Madara to just use his kenjutsu skills and chop heads? He will get in deep trouble, if he tries to get fancy. Pain will use his summons to crush him at first chance, not to mention Shinra Tensei and Banshou Tennin.

Also, without knowledge he will be just like Jiraiya - unable to understand wtf is going on.

Anyway, Nagato knows all five elements which he will definetly use to block and counter Madara's movements.

 

[TheSages456]

No, he said it's powerful as a bijuu (powerful like Shukaku and the rest of the weakling Bijuu). It's not strong as Kurama or Gyuki. Susanoo is used primary for defense and even if he attacks Preta with it, his Susanoo is gonna get absorbed. I know you're gonna tell me it will take time for it to get absorbed... no. Every other path will attack the Susanoo and it won't get any chance to retaliate. Getting absorbed and attacked from all sides...

Why are you comparing Pain to some fodder ninja's, anyway? Do you think it would be THAT easy for Madara to just use his kenjutsu skills and chop heads? He will get in deep trouble, if he tries to get fancy. Pain will use his summons to crush him at first chance, not to mention Shinra Tensei and Banshou Tennin.

Also, without knowledge he will be just like Jiraiya - unable to understand wtf is going on.

Anyway, Nagato knows all five elements which he will definetly use to block and counter Madara's movements.

none of the other beasts has shown destruction feats on perfect susanos level. their tbbs destroyed a mountain. madaras perfect susano destroyed a meteor, 3 mountains and miles of landscape behind it with a casual swing of its sword. dont try and underrate madara. its kinda pathetic. madara uses his walking twin susano to steamroll the other paths and when he gets to preta path, he deactivates susano then cuts preta down with his kenjutsu. susano can take down the other paths with his large scale katons and susano.

madara is much stronger than pain and has more firepower. he doesnt need knowledge to beat them. he has more than enough power to survive and figure out pains abilities as the fight goes on. once he figures out what each path does, they are as good as dead.

tell me about these techniques from the 5 elements that nagato has not been shown using that only you know about.

 

[Dragon1]

none of the other beasts has shown destruction feats on perfect susanos level. their tbbs destroyed a mountain. madaras perfect susano destroyed a meteor, 3 mountains and miles of landscape behind it with a casual swing of its sword. dont try and underrate madara. its kinda pathetic. madara uses his walking twin susano to steamroll the other paths and when he gets to preta path, he deactivates susano then cuts preta down with his kenjutsu. susano can take down the other paths with his large scale katons and susano.

madara is much stronger than pain and has more firepower. he doesnt need knowledge to beat them. he has more than enough power to survive and figure out pains abilities as the fight goes on. once he figures out what each path does, they are as good as dead.

tell me about these techniques from the 5 elements that nagato has not been shown using that only you know about.

Madara stated that it is as strong as a bijuu which means that at it's maximum is strong/er as the two tails. Susanoo is mainly used for shield and not for attacks. However, kenjutsu skills won't work - Pain has a shared vision.

It's pointless that you're trying to make the battle in Madara's favour. If you ask me, Pain can just fly away, use his summons and get all his paths on them and missile the crap out of Madara until he runs out of chakra. Madara doesn't have any way to reach him and such. Kinda one-sided that way?

Katons and all these techniques can be countered by Deva, Preta and the Animal path. I'm not underrating Madara, but you're clearly overestimating him. This is EMS Madara we are talking about - he doesn't have infinite chakra and can be killed.

Anyway, this is also pointless. Neither of us are gonna change our opinion.

 

[Memoria]

Kurama gets handled by Animal Paths' summons, there's the dog that can't be killed, it will keep distracting Kurama while Madara's a** is being kicked by the other paths.