EMS Madara>Obito

[KidGamer65]

Lol 6 edo jinchurikies. nuff said.
6 bijus.
Equal katon.
Equal or most likely greater stamina.
Could pull off same shit to brake control over kurama as minato did.
Goddamned rinnegan.
Kamui kamui kamui

You mean his featless Rinnegan and the Jins he needs Kabuto to maintain for him? Please. They aren't his power so he can't use them unless Kabuto is on his team or something.

 

[AlphaScythian]

I'm not going to repeat myself on this. Refer to page one and let your argument be turned to dog shit. :|

Read the bold looser

 

[Ababeel]

Madara cannot attack Obito, so it does not matter how powerful he is. He will always lose.

 

[mikeeozua]

I think Itachi has this fight. Obito's Kumui doesn't save him from Genjutsu and given the genius Itachi is it wouldn't take him long to see Kamui's achilles heel (the amount of time he remain phased out).

Obito is a pretty skilled genjutsu user himself, he would be able to break out of it

 

[AlphaScythian]

You mean his featless Rinnegan and the Jins he needs Kabuto to maintain for him? Please. They aren't his power so he can't use them unless Kabuto is on his team or something.

How cant he use them? He knows the jutsu now, he replicate it. He used black rods to control them.
But none of this is relevant as he had them just as madara had kurama which was so6p creation and w/o izuna he would be blind. Dont use lame action reaction logic on me.
I can easily trash madara here. Lets compare power displayed alone.

 

[Bieber]

Umm, dodging? And when Obito uses Kamui, he become vulnerable to attacks. You know what that means? TOTSUKA BLADE, *****. I doubt Obito could kamui susano'o fast enough before he's sealed away for eternity.

Uh his kamui doesn't work like Kakashis' and why would he warp him into kamui? Lmao.
How can he seal Obito if he can't hit him?

 

[HiddenSound]

Umm, dodging? And when Obito uses Kamui, he become vulnerable to attacks. You know what that means? TOTSUKA BLADE, *****. I doubt Obito could kamui susano'o fast enough before he's sealed away for eternity.



No, no, no. Madara obtained his rinnegan fair and square. Obito skipped EMS because he's a lazy **** and took eyes from a corpse, that Madara himself developed on his own.
NOT THE SAME DAMN THING.

Madara took Izuna's eyes.
Obito took Nagato's eyes.
Whether Madara developed Rinnegan or not is irrelevant. Did Madara develop Izuna's MS? Exactly. And it doesn't change the fact that Obito has Rinnegan anyway.

 

[KidGamer65]

How cant he use them? He knows the jutsu now, he replicate it. He used black rods to control them.
But none of this is relevant as he had them just as madara had kurama which was so6p creation and w/o izuna he would be blind. Dont use lame action reaction logic on me.
I can easily trash madara here. Lets compare power displayed alone.

Completely different from Obito using Edo Jins.

-Is there someone else who has to actively keep Madara's eyes usable? No.
-Is there someone else who has to keep Kurama usable for Madara? No.

Obito doesn't know Edo Tensei, don't know where you got that from, doesn't matter if he used his rods to control them. Kabuto is the one keeping them alive.

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Frankly, Obito being able to get the Edo Jins as his power is the same as saying Hinata can get the v1 cloak as her power. (Naruto keeps it active for her)

Jins aren't his power. He can't even scratch Madara in battle. He has to wait until Madara runs out of chakra and can't hold Susanoo anymore for him to be able to beat him.

 

[Dark Artist]

actually itachi is the weakest Uchiha

let's see

Normal Madara has EMS
Edo madara has rinnegan
Obito has rinnegan + MS

Sasuke has EMS

and finally itachi has MS with weak stamina and only 3 moves

he is the weakest only a wanker or a fanboy will disagree

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

actually itachi is the weakest Uchiha

let's see

Normal Madara has EMS
Edo madara has rinnegan
Obito has rinnegan + MS

Sasuke has EMS

and finally itachi has MS with weak stamina and only 3 moves

he is the weakest only a wanker or a fanboy will disagree

proves you're trolling... now gtfo

 

[mikeeozua]

Completely different from Obito using Edo Jins.

-Is there someone else who has to actively keep Madara's eyes usable? No.
-Is there someone else who has to keep Kurama usable for Madara? No.

Obito doesn't know Edo Tensei, don't know where you got that from, doesn't matter if he used his rods to control them. Kabuto is the one keeping them alive.

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Frankly, Obito being able to get the Edo Jins as his power is the same as saying Hinata can get the v1 cloak as her power. (Naruto keeps it active for her)

Jins aren't his power. He can't even scratch Madara in battle. He has to wait until Madara runs out of chakra and can't hold Susanoo anymore for him to be able to beat him.

He would put up a darn good fight. Obito has counters to Madara's Mokuton, while Madara has counters to Obito's Mokuton. Obito can also use Kamui to enhance his fre style which would cause strategical thinking from Madara. They both cancel each other out, Obito would certainly create opportunities against him.

 

[Meee]

Completely different from Obito using Edo Jins.

-Is there someone else who has to actively keep Madara's eyes usable? No.
-Is there someone else who has to keep Kurama usable for Madara? No.

Obito doesn't know Edo Tensei, don't know where you got that from, doesn't matter if he used his rods to control them. Kabuto is the one keeping them alive.

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Frankly, Obito being able to get the Edo Jins as his power is the same as saying Hinata can get the v1 cloak as her power. (Naruto keeps it active for her)
Jins aren't his power. He can't even scratch Madara in battle. He has to wait until Madara runs out of chakra and can't hold Susanoo anymore for him to be able to beat him.

Why did I have to read this, now the Jins dont feel like his power and my Obito doesn't seem as OP

 

[Dark Artist]

proves you're trolling... now gtfo

no i'm not like itachi wankers who destryoed the base with their stupidity

let's see

amaterasu

Tsukiumi

Susano

anything else sir ?

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

no i'm not like itachi wankers who destryoed the base with their stupidity

let's see

amaterasu

Tsukiumi

Susano

anything else sir ?

izanami

finger genjutsu

paralyzing genjutsu

suiton jutsus

katon jutsus

shuriken jutsus

crown clones

and we haven't seen everything

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Madara is clearly the second strongest Uchiha behind Itachi.

This line gave me cancer.

 

[KidGamer65]

Why did I have to read this, now the Jins dont feel like his power and my Obito doesn't seem as OP

Lmao, I felt similar when I first was explained to why the Jins shouldn't count as his power.

 

[mikeeozua]

A serious answer to ths question:

The outcome of this battle is very debatable. In my opinion, the winner of this battle would be the one who outsmarts the other, or drives the other to exhaustion of chakra.

They both have counters to each other. Obito's fire style is equal in size to that of Madara's. He can also use Kamui to enhance his flames. But Madara could know a counter to this which may possibly involve susanno. But then again after seeing Sasuke's power, Obito may have a plan to counter Susanno. Madara's PS is so gargantuan that it can cut mountains and destroy landscapes. So Obito either has to avoid it for five minutes or drive Madara to the point where he cannot use Susanno anymore because of chakra preservation. Obito's and Madara's Mokuton would cancel each other out as they both have counters to each other. It is debateable whether or not Obito can use his Rinnegan techniques but as shown in the chapter when he was about to absorb Naruto, he posses the powers of the outer path, which would be another key factor.

In concision, it would depend on which opponent outsmarts the other and drives them to the point that they have no counters. Madara is better when it comes to offensive jutsu, but Obito is better when it comes to evasive.
This is very controversial, but I can see this battle ending in a stalemate.

 

[Dark Artist]

izanami

finger genjutsu

paralyzing genjutsu

suiton jutsus

katon jutsus

shuriken jutsus

crown clones

and we haven't seen everything

all of these are normal moves any Uchiha can do it like Sasuke's own genjutsu or Obito genjutsu which is even stronger than itachi genjutsu when Obito used his genjutsu against konan

all of these u can't call it a moves it's a common moves fire jutsu almost every character can do it

i will agree only on Izanami which is a plot jutsu ( see i was logical and agree on something u mentioned unlike u )

not to mention Izanami cost an Eye and doesn't work on most ninjas like minato or naruto or madara or Sasuke etc

 

[AlphaScythian]

Completely different from Obito using Edo Jins.

-Is there someone else who has to actively keep Madara's eyes usable? No.
-Is there someone else who has to keep Kurama usable for Madara? No.

How does kabuto keep them usable? Edos are as permanent as u can get. Kabuto doesnt simply go against obito here.

Obito doesn't know Edo Tensei, don't know where you got that from, doesn't matter if he used his rods to control them. Kabuto is the one keeping them alive.

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Kabuto doesnt keep a thing alive here, edos still work even if he killed. He told how to make it and release it.

Frankly, Obito being able to get the Edo Jins as his power is the same as saying Hinata can get the v1 cloak as her power. (Naruto keeps it active for her)

Jins aren't his power. He can't even scratch Madara in battle. He has to wait until Madara runs out of chakra and can't hold Susanoo anymore for him to be able to beat him.

Jins are his power cuz he made them jins again. He was in the full control of them not kabuto. Comparison doesnt quite fit here.
Having hashima cells he most likely has more stamina then that. Madara could fight for 24 hours obito did it longer.

 

[KidGamer65]

How does kabuto keep them usable? Edos are as permanent as u can get. Kabuto doesnt simply go against obito here.

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Kabuto doesnt keep a thing alive here, edos still work even if he killed. He told how to make it and release it.

Jins are his power cuz he made them jins again. He was in the full control of them not kabuto. Comparison doesnt quite fit here.
Having hashima cells he most likely has more stamina then that. Madara could fight for 24 hours obito did it longer.

Edo Tensei, Kabuto's jutsu keeps them alive, when Edo Tensei was released, they disappeared.

I guess you missed the part where Kabuto lied.

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The seals he told Obito were different from the actual seals.

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Doesn't matter if he was in control of them. He can't summon them nor can he keep them active without a 3rd party doing it for him.