[VS] EMS Madara+kyuubi vs Base hashirama

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Good luck to itachi evading the juubi sized statue
Or the onslaught of PS kyuubi and SS
like I said he doesn't have to near the battle at all he can be far from danger zone till hashi uses most of his chakra and hashi ain't passing madara and kyuubi
 

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base hashirama is more or less on par with EMS madara (without kyuubi)
Madara is not shitting on him

That is Madara WITHOUT the kyuubi. This is Madara WITH the kyuubi; so the difference between the 2 is roughly equal to the kyuubi's strength. If Madara uses the move he only used against the buddha(continuous barrage of tailed beast balls combined with PS blades) then base hashirama loses badly.
 

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EMS Madara > Base Hashirama:

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Actually this scan shows EMS Madara with Senjuu steroids(I doubt they help in any way with Sussano, but let's say they help a bit) = SM Hashirama with Buddha restricted.

Basically Edo Madara = EMS Madara+ Hashirama's DNA + Fake Rinnegan

It depends now if Edo MAdara's PS = EMS Madara's PS, if yes then EMS Madara is above Base Madara. However SM Hashirama beats him with Buddha. The Buddha makes such huge difference that even Kyuubi under control, who we should be aware that can not bring out full power under control of Madara is not enough to make up for gap Buddha creates.
 
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That is Madara WITHOUT the kyuubi. This is Madara WITH the kyuubi; so the difference between the 2 is roughly equal to the kyuubi's strength. If Madara uses the move he only used against the buddha(continuous barrage of tailed beast balls combined with PS blades) then base hashirama loses badly.
You claimed that EMS Madara without the kyuubi would wreck Base Hashirama, which is incorrect, since they both are relatively on par with each other, you didnt answer my question as to why you think EMS Madara (without kyuubi) would easily beat base hashirama
and i am well aware that hashirama needs SS to defeat madara with the kyuubi

like I said he doesn't have to near the battle at all he can be far from danger zone till hashi uses most of his chakra and hashi ain't passing madara and kyuubi
He is not evading anything at all,
especially a and the , as well as ,
their AOE is far too large for itachi to evade, and he is never evading it through his shunshin
and none of his susanooos are even standing a remote chance against such firepower, which cuts/vaporises mountains with ease, and wrecked PS through only one chojo kobetsu
itachi is getting wrecked with ease

and @Bold - Manga disagrees,, his , and his


 

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You claimed that EMS Madara without the kyuubi would wreck Base Hashirama, which is incorrect, since they both are relatively on par with each other, you didnt answer my question as to why you think EMS Madara (without kyuubi) would easily beat base hashirama
and i am well aware that hashirama needs SS to defeat madara with the kyuubi


He is not evading anything at all,
especially a and the , as well as ,
their AOE is far too large for itachi to evade, and he is never evading it through his shunshin
and none of his susanooos are even standing a remote chance against such firepower, which cuts/vaporises mountains with ease, and wrecked PS through only one chojo kobetsu
itachi is getting wrecked with ease

and @Bold - Manga disagrees,, his , and his



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Reading comprehension 101 is something you probably lack. Let me walk you through this-sloowwwwlllly this time.

Madara shits on base hashirama with the kyuubi.(he obviously loses to SM hashirama though)

The words "WITH THE KYUUBI" are the key words here. Lel
 

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Ems madara with the kiyubi beats base hashirama low/mid diff

Ems madara without the kiuybi can most likely beat base hashirama high/extremely high diff

Sm hashiram with budaha has already beaten ems madara with the kiuybi
 

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EMS Madara beats SM harshirama in Kill intent without kyubbi
 

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EMS Madara without kyubbi with Kill intent can stalemate SM harshirama with Buddha restricted

Fixed for you ;)

also here is proof:
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@bold
Reading comprehension 101 is something you probably lack. Let me walk you through this-sloowwwwlllly this time.

The words "WITH THE KYUUBI" are the key words here. Lel
My bad, man, my bad
and enough with the insults,
i am upto reading comprehension 103 thats some advanced shit
 

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To the idiots that say base hashi can beat EMS Madara and the kyuubi tell me exactly how hashi is going to win


Intel is kill


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Lol, your referring to me aren't you, funny how you ignored the exact words that I said. These are the entire posts that I mentioned base Hashirama in. Read the bold and italics.

SM Hashirama wins this, base Hashirama loses, you clearly can't read.
What kind of intellectual problem do you have buddy?
EMS Madara lost to base Hashirama, get that into your head, okay?
Base Hashirama went toe to toe against both Kyuubi and EMS Madara.
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That's Kyuubi inside Susano'o, vs base Hashirama.
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Notice that the Kyuubi is no longer inside Susano'o?
Also.
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Hashirama fighting on par with Edo Madara's PS. Using a base technique.
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SM Hashirama and his Shinsuusenju manhandling the Kyuubi.
Kyuubi's a non factor, understood? Hashirama was going easy on Madara until the end when he finally resolved himself to kill Madara.
Slap yourself, and stop using wiki, Databook takes precedence above a fan made site, is that understood?
Learn better grammar, understood?
Itachi always had low stamina, is that understood?

Also little, ****ing brat, don't bring my mum into this, she would rather exterminate you, is that ****ing understood?



Hashirama was using something called a strategy, and Madara was stupid enough to fall for it.
You also ignore the fact that Hashirama fought EMS Madara and Kyuubi in base for quite a few pages, and was clearly holding his own.
Itachi didn't fight Sasuke for very long at all. Don't know why you keep bringing that up.
Lol what!
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Hashirama trying to talk sense to Madara.
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Madara himself admitted Hashirama had changed after Hashirama stabbed him. That's when Hashirama truly got serious.

And I almost forgot.
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Yet another one where Hashirama was trying to talk sense into Madara
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This was after the fight genius. Mito didn't have the Kyuubi sealed in her until after the fight, as this proves.
Don't listen to someone who wasn't there and didn't see the fight.


What the **** did I just read?
Keyword that I said, was that Hashirama was holding his own against EMS Madara and Kyuubi in base. And no I'm not repeating myself, your the one that keeps spouting your utter bs without evidence, and ignoring mine.
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Note the words. 'At this rate the ground will be completely destroyed...We should get closer to the sea.' Funny how everyone ignores this quote.
Hashirama was running so he could get Madara away from the village. Is that understood?
That little brat, was Page Five of Chapter 621.
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Page 10 0f Chapter 621.
Hashirama didn't go into SM until four chapters after he started running.
Also notice the words. 'It can't be helped.' Hashirama obviously didn't want to go into SM against Madara, but he did.
Everything you said is baseless and holds no weight. Is that understood!
Lol what? Itachi vs Sasuke lasted barely an hour or so. Not a long fight at all.
Itachi only managed to hold his own against Naruto and Bee because he was an Edo, and thus had infinite stamina and chakra. Don't bring that up.
In life he clearly could not have done that.
Lol, you need to learn how to read, Hashirama wasn't serious until he had resolved himself to kill Madara, I already proved it. An Awesome Senju also already proved it.
Sasuke went out of chakra because he used his Dragon Fire Jutsu, which drains the users chakra until there's almost none left.



I don't need to reply in Team7Represents favor, considering she proved that she did post Manga scans, however....
Did you just say that the Manga is irrelevant?
How the **** can I take you seriously if you spout such bullshit?
Lol, me relying on wiki? Not once have I ever posted anything from the wiki, where the **** did you get that from?
The Databook holds precedence over a fan made site, is that understood? Also, I'm only relying on the Manga here, get it right.
It says Itachi's Yata Mirror is invincible, is that understood? However, its only invincible to Ninjutsu or Tai-Jutsu, something like say Mokuton's pollen would get pass it and kill Itachi.
Now, you should stop debating, your grammar is atrocious.

As you can see, not once did I ever say that base Hashirama beats EMS Madara and Kyuubi, and I posted everything.
You even said that the Manga is irrelevant. I Lol'd so bad at that.
Learn to read. Retard.
 
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Madara beats SM Hashirama even without Kurama.
 

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He's not...

Kushina told Naruto that DURING the fight against Madara, Hashirama gained control of the kyuubi's power to better aid him in the fight.

So at one moment it was EMS Madara vs. Sm Hashirama and kyuubi.

They both can use kyuubi for a short period of time.

Your still ****ing going on about that?
Its quite clear that I stomped you as evidence of the fact, is that you even ignored my post, and are still spouting bullshit even now.
This is but a little bit of my post.

Lol what?
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That's Hashirama talking to the Kyuubi after the fight, Kyuubi had yet to be sealed. :bouncy:
I don't give a **** about what Kushina says, is that understood? Everything she said holds no weight, and has been shown to be incorrect.
We already saw the entire fight, and not once did Hashirama take over the Kyuubi, all he did was put it to sleep.
 
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Madara beats SM Hashirama even without Kurama.

Lmao. This guy is the biggest idiot I've seen on here.

-Hashirama already killed Madara w/Kyuubi

-Says Madara doesn't need Kyuubi to beat Hashirama.

No wonder no one takes this guy seriously.
 
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Lmao. This guy is the biggest idiot I've seen on here.

-Hashirama already killed Madara w/Kyuubi

-Says Madara doesn't need Kyuubi to beat Hashirama.

No wonder no one takes this guy seriously.

He spoke the Truth in Intent to kill the SM Harashirama vs EMS Madara fight can go either way

Proof:
The reason why ems madara lost with sm harshirama is because madara did not have the intent to kill harshirama. That why harshirama said madara should not be brought back to life on episode 375
 
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Base Hashirama already beat EMS Madara, your comprehension and intellect is awful.
SM Hashirama also already manhandled EMS Madara and Kyuubi combo.

When did Base Harshirama beat Madara?

Also SM Harshirama and EMS Madara are equal
 
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You claimed that EMS Madara without the kyuubi would wreck Base Hashirama, which is incorrect, since they both are relatively on par with each other, you didnt answer my question as to why you think EMS Madara (without kyuubi) would easily beat base hashirama
and i am well aware that hashirama needs SS to defeat madara with the kyuubi


He is not evading anything at all,
especially a and the , as well as ,
their AOE is far too large for itachi to evade, and he is never evading it through his shunshin
and none of his susanooos are even standing a remote chance against such firepower, which cuts/vaporises mountains with ease, and wrecked PS through only one chojo kobetsu
itachi is getting wrecked with ease

and @Bold - Manga disagrees,, his , and his


itachi doesnt need to be near the battle at all so he won't evade hashi ain't going all the way to itachi easily against Madara kyuubi
 
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