[VS] EMS Itachi vs Healthy Nagato

[Conspirator.]

You restricted PS, so Nagato still takes it mid diff. With PS, Itachi would win low diff.

 

[Transcendence]

You restricted a stabilized PS, so Nagato takes this low-mid difficulty. Even if Itachi does get PS, what scale are we talking about? Madara's or Sasuke's prior to the gathering of the Bijuu chakra?

 

[Apêx1]

Rather than why Itachi can't win without PS, how can Nagato win against an EMS Itachi?

 

[NSUNSR]

Rather than why Itachi can't win without PS, how can Nagato win against an EMS Itachi?

With no intel Nagato stomps. Itachi rushes into a taijutsu fight, then ST at a close range solos.
Even with knowedge, Nagato can simply use BT to pull out Itachi from Susanoo, and then uses any of Asura's destructive techniques to kill Itachi.

 

[Apêx1]

With no intel Nagato stomps. Itachi rushes into a taijutsu fight, then ST at a close range solos.
Even with knowedge, Nagato can simply use BT to pull out Itachi from Susanoo, and then uses any of Asura's destructive techniques to kill Itachi.

-Kakashi was casually dodging Ashura's bomb [

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-ST is only strong when its entire AOE affects you, as it is capable of lethally damage large scale summons, but fails to do much to Kakashi [

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-Small projectiles are simply deflected more often than not. If Nagato uses ST on Itachi's Susano, the attack gets reflected back on Nagato.

-Last I checked, BT doesn't take a user outside of the Susano since the gravitational field will occur on the backside of the entire Susano. The whole Susano moves in and that would spell Nagato's death.

 

[Unorthodox]

It depends on the power output of Itachi's PS. If it's on Madara's level, he wins without much difficulty. If it's on Sasuke's level, Nagato wins high diff. But knowing Susanoo's strength is dependent on the quality of the user's Chakra, Itachi's PS is theoretically weak in comparison to both. Nagato should win.​

Sasuke Perfect susanoos are over 10x stronger than Madara's stop comparing the two your pathetic

OT - Perfect susanoo flicks its wrist GG

 

[NSUNSR]

-Kakashi was casually dodging Ashura's bomb [

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While being controlled by BT Itachi can't dodge Asura's projectiles.

-ST is only strong when its entire AOE affects you, as it is capable of lethally damage large scale summons, but fails to do much to Kakashi [

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A weak ST already killed Hinata. If Nagato concentrates his power only on Itachi's body, Itachi will easily die.

-Small projectiles are simply deflected more often than not. If Nagato uses ST on Itachi's Susano, the attack gets reflected back on Nagato.

I never said that projectiles or ST will be used on Susanoo.

-Last I checked, BT doesn't take a user outside of the Susano since the gravitational field will occur on the backside of the entire Susano. The whole Susano moves in and that would spell Nagato's death.

Pain was able to concentrate his power so precisely, that the only thing affected was a little nail.

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We can see that Itachi's feet are on the ground when using Susanoo.(

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) Nagato can simply pull Itachi's feet, or the earth he is standing on.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Did people forget that Yata Mirror and Totsuka would be a long as building seeing as Itachi Susanoo is bigger.

 

[Apêx1]

While being controlled by BT Itachi can't dodge Asura's projectiles.


A weak ST already killed Hinata. If Nagato concentrates his power only on Itachi's body, Itachi will easily die.


I never said that projectiles or ST will be used on Susanoo.

Pain was able to concentrate his power so precisely, that the only thing affected was a little nail.

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We can see that Itachi's feet are on the ground when using Susanoo.(

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) Nagato can simply pull Itachi's feet, or the earth he is standing on.

-Kakashi switched with a clone, Itachi does the same.

-That wasn't a weak ST. V1 neg diff tanks it.

-Anytime they are used, Susano is used. You don't have to say it for me to bring it up.

-Nothing indicates he could do that, that's conjecture. He could've used a large gravitational field on the nail either way, so nope. Doesn't matter, until you can prove BT affects who is within the Susano, and until you can prove Susano doesn't move with him, this is all baseless speculation on your side.. Lol

 

[NSUNSR]

-Kakashi switched with a clone, Itachi does the same.

Itachi will first have to create a clone.

-That wasn't a weak ST. V1 neg diff tanks it.

Yes it was a weak one. It barely did damage to the surroundings. Even if he concentrated his power on Hinata, the ST was still weak, seeing the destruction after Deva uses ST on KN6.(

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) Itachi doesn't use the ribcage in a taijutsu fight.

-Anytime they are used, Susano is used. You don't have to say it for me to bring it up.

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-Nothing indicates he could do that, that's conjecture. He could've used a large gravitational field on the nail either way, so nope. Doesn't matter, until you can prove BT affects who is within the Susano, and until you can prove Susano doesn't move with him, this is all baseless speculation on your side.. Lol

Already made a thread explaining this, and you're the one using baseless speculations.:|

 

[Apêx1]

Itachi will first have to create a clone.

Yes it was a weak one. It barely did damage to the surroundings. Even if he concentrated his power on Hinata, the ST was still weak, seeing the destruction after Deva uses ST on KN6.(

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) Itachi doesn't use the ribcage in a taijutsu fight.

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Already made a thread explaining this, and you're the one using baseless speculations.:|

Kakashi and Sasuke couldn't see Itachi's hand seal speeds. Nagato won't either. Kakashi did it=Itachi does too

-It wasn't weak, it pushed the ground beneath them upwards. Doesn't matter, he can use v1 and that's a fact.

-Making a thread doesn't mean you proved it son. That wasn't even an explanation to begin with lmao. Gaara wouldn't have held the Susano in place had he been able to move Madara without holding the Susano. Fail thread is a fail thread.

 

[NSUNSR]

Kakashi and Sasuke couldn't see Itachi's hand seal speeds. Nagato won't either. Kakashi did it=Itachi does too

-It wasn't weak, it pushed the ground beneath them upwards. Doesn't matter, he can use v1 and that's a fact.

-Making a thread doesn't mean you proved it son. That wasn't even an explanation to begin with lmao. Gaara wouldn't have held the Susano in place had he been able to move Madara without holding the Susano. Fail thread is a fail thread.

-Itachi will be dead, before he creates a clone.
-Itachi has no reason to use the ribcage, since he can't know if Nagato will use ST or not.
-Again i never said that Susanoo can't move by itself. I said that it won't just instantly reappear arount Itachi.
Fail post is a fail post.

 

[Apêx1]

-Itachi will be dead, before he creates a clone.
-Itachi has no reason to use the ribcage, since he can't know if Nagato will use ST or not.
-Again i never said that Susanoo can't move by itself. I said that it won't just instantly reappear arount Itachi.
Fail post is a fail post.

Based on nothing, since Kakashi wasn't dead.

-He has already sensed Nagato's Deva Path, he does it again and uses V1.

-BT doesn't teleport last I checked, so Susano moves along with Itachi. It's really that simple.
Fail refutation is a fail refutation.

 

[NSUNSR]

Based on nothing, since Kakashi wasn't dead.

-He has already sensed Nagato's Deva Path, he does it again and uses V1.

-BT doesn't teleport last I checked, so Susano moves along with Itachi. It's really that simple.
Fail refutation is a fail refutation.

-Kakshi himself was never dragged. He was just hiding.(

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) Also Itachi has to first have created a clone.
-He never sensed ST coming.:|
-BT pulls Itachi far out of his Susanoo, so that the Susanoo can't save him.
Fail refutation to a refutation is a fail refutation to a refutation.

 

[Apêx1]

-Kakshi himself was never dragged. He was just hiding.(

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) Also Itachi has to first have created a clone.
-He never sensed ST coming.:|
-BT pulls Itachi far out of his Susanoo, so that the Susanoo can't save him.
Fail refutation to a refutation is a fail refutation to a refutation.

-Nope, Kakashi clearly threw a chain and got out either way. If you can move your hand then you can move your fingers.. He uses clones and he's out, not to mention he can kill Nagato with Susano hand while coming towards him.

-He knew CT was gonna happen before it did, and guess what, CT=Deva. Naruto stuck his tails into the floor after Deva was used even though he was mindless [

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-How exactly does it do that when susano follows dude? Start making an argument or stop debating this at all...
You're trying to hard, you sound a little salty.

 

[NSUNSR]

-Nope, Kakashi clearly threw a chain and got out either way. If you can move your hand then you can move your fingers.. He uses clones and he's out, not to mention he can kill Nagato with Susano hand while coming towards him.

Nagato isn't pulling Itachi towards himself.

-He knew CT was gonna happen before it did, and guess what, CT=Deva. Naruto stuck his tails into the floor after Deva was used even though he was mindless [

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]. Susano easily counters.

ST doesn't equal CT. Lets just agree to disagree. I'm getting tired.

 

[Apêx1]

Nagato isn't pulling Itachi towards himself.

ST doesn't equal CT. Lets just agree to disagree. I'm getting tired.

He can't use BT like that.

It equals BT in a different area, same shit different scale. And ok

 

[Conspirator.]

How does BT pull someone out of Susanoo? Sasuke's susanoo withstood the suction of the Baku, and even if it did suck something in, the Susanoo would get pulled towards nagato as well.(unless the Susanoo is already pinned down by something else).

 

[Apêx1]

How does BT pull someone out of Susanoo? Sasuke's susanoo withstood the suction of the Baku, and even if it did suck something in, the Susanoo would get pulled towards nagato as well.(unless the Susanoo is already pinned down by something else).

It doesn't, this guy thinks a non-legged Susano can't move with the user even though Ribcage has... If CT didn't pull the Susano up and then the user up, why would BT pull the user out? Makes 0 sense. Nagato using BT would be his biggest mistake in this fight.