EMS is not a borrowed power

[Smd]

And all naruto had to do was sit there while his father handed him a demon to play with. Are you seriously arguing about how sad each powerup is? That's pathetic.

Sasuke has his brother's eyes, a naturally progression but still borrowed, while Naruto has a chakra monster put inside of him, which is in no way natural, and you're trying to tell me naruto's power isn't borrowed?

dont waste your time with him, it seems we do agree on things.

Its understandable how ppl get mad when naruto fanboys post trash like that.


somehow naruto having the strongest charka beast isnt a given power

or the fact that his momma had to fight his battle for him to gain control

 

[Aya San]

Do stolen/borrowed powers even matter? The person has those powers move on

 

[Smd]

And all naruto had to do was sit there while his father handed him a demon to play with. Are you seriously arguing about how sad each powerup is? That's pathetic.

Sasuke has his brother's eyes, a naturally progression but still borrowed, while Naruto has a chakra monster put inside of him, which is in no way natural, and you're trying to tell me naruto's power isn't borrowed?

dont waste your time with him, it seems we do agree on things.

Its understandable how ppl get mad when naruto fanboys post trash like that.


somehow naruto having the strongest charka beast isnt a given power

or the fact that his momma had to fight his battle for him to gain control

Do stolen/borrowed powers even matter? The person has those powers move on

ahhaha i find it funny you post this after i soloed both you and that other person post.

now they dont matter and you want to move on lol.

its cool tho

 

[The Necromancer]

yea because it was his father that defeated the kyuubi right? it was his father then rip the kyuubi chakra from the beast? when is transplanting eyes natural? it what world is that natural?

1. That's how the eyes are made to work
2. Kabuto claims the Rinnegan is the next natural progression of the sharingan

 

[EternalFlame]

Well, apparently a completely new Jutsu is born with EMS, doubt Kishi is going to do anything with that now. Retconning it.

As far as we know, EMS brings less strain on the user and an eternal light. While, it's speculation... I see no reason to believe that theoretically a MS user could also achieve PS. Give him some Senju DNA or whatever Obito did to not make him go blind and eventually he'll awaken PS, just like he awakened Complete Susanno at the end.


EMS is a nice perk, the eternal light is nice but it doesn't actually power you up. It's in no way comparable to having a near-infinite power house chakra beast sealed within you, giving you massive destructive power and speed.

 

[dario14]

Kcm and ems is both stolen powerups bijumode is just the next level of kcm...

 

[spckoroma]

1. That's how the eyes are made to work
2. Kabuto claims the Rinnegan is the next natural progression of the sharingan

they lose there eye's from over using them and found a loop hole. to say to take someone else eyes is the natural progression is sadly wrong.

 

[Smd]

Well, apparently a completely new Jutsu is born with EMS, doubt Kishi is going to do anything with that now. Retconning it.

As far as we know, EMS brings less strain on the user and an eternal light. While, it's speculation... I see no reason to believe that theoretically a MS user could also achieve PS. Give him some Senju DNA or whatever Obito did to not make him go blind and eventually he'll awaken PS, just like he awakened Complete Susanno at the end.


EMS is a nice perk, but it's in no way comparable to having a near-infinte power house chakra beast sealed within you, giving you massive destructive power and speed.

pretty sure is PS

but the whole point of the matter is that Sasuke only took EMS because he was blind.

while naruto needed KCM+BM in order to compete against sasuke as he said himself.

And that EMS and KCM+BM are in too totally different places when it comes to borrowed/given powers

 

[lanakui8]

No. Just defeat his best friend in battle,

Not a requirement, Itachi threw that fight, and that was to get his MS. If you are talking about Naruto, that again had nothing to do with him gaining the EMS.

conquer all of his sadness and hatred,

What in the hell? Overcoming sadness had nothing to do with him gaining the EMS and after he gained the EMS he still wanted to crush konoha due to his hatred. Neither of those things were requirements.

then ALSO defeat his brother in battle, conquer his sadness and hatred again then implant it.

Again, none of those things were requirements.

Itachi threw the fight so that sasuke could get his eyes, sasuke not only never conquered his hatred before implanting and using the EMS, never was implied to have conquered hatred or sadness, and its irrelevant since none of those were even requirements for the EMS.

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

MS is not a borrowed power. Sasuke got it naturally when Itachi died. You are probably referring to when Itachi sealed an Amaterasu attack in Sasuke to attack Obito. That is not what gave Sasuke MS.

itachi implanted MS in sasuke

MS can only be awakened by killing or witness the death of closest friend as in the case of :-

1-kakashi and obito , kakashi killed rin ( closest friend) and obito witness the murder of rin and they both awakened their MS

2-Itachi witness his closest friend shisui's death and awakened his MS

3-Madara and izuna killed their closest friends and awakened their MS

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borrowed power from oro as well in part 2

oh sorry forgot about that because that fodder's all powers are borrowed powers

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

it's not coz it's how the sharingan naturally evolve/a stage in the Sharingan's evolution :yeah: (at least that's how the writer explained it) and the Sharingan is how an Uchiha evolves.

so NOPE, it's not "borrowed power" even if it gives the user new power, it's still not borrowed power, it's the only way to surpass the MS stage.

 

[Turson]

Its meaningless. No character in Naruto gave a crap if some power was barrowed or not. Never. Besides, both Naruto and Sasuke worked for their powers.

 

[-Spoiler-]

1. That's how the eyes are made to work
2. Kabuto claims the Rinnegan is the next natural progression of the sharingan

what kabuto claims mean nothing the fact that ems comes from a secondary source means its not natural
but i cant understand what you guys feel the need to make these kind of thread.

 

[Flakez]

Same thread has been made multiple times, borrowed power or not Naruto is > Sasuke deal with it.

 

[xcoyote]

what kabuto claims mean nothing the fact that ems comes from a secondary source means its not natural
but i cant understand what you guys feel the need to make these kind of thread.

BM Naruto rustled a lot of jimmies,i doubt anyone complained when Naruto was a struggling Jinchuriki.

 

[spckoroma]

it's not coz it's how the sharingan naturally evolve/a stage in the Sharingan's evolution :yeah: (at least that's how the writer explained it) and the Sharingan is how an Uchiha evolves.

so NOPE, it's not "borrowed power" even if it gives the user new power, it's still not borrowed power, it's the only way to surpass the MS stage.

no he explained that they found a loop hole by taken from a second sources to get back what they lost. there is no way taking someones eyes is naturally. as well as taking a demon fox's chakra they both have to get a power up from somewhere else.

 

[The perfect Sage]

I disagree , I think its a borrowed power .

I also think that Naruto > Sasuke .

Get mad .

 

[VolatileSoul]

It clearly isn't a borrowed power, since it isn't a power at all. It didn't give Sasuke anything he didn't already have. It just made a power he already attained permanent. It is in no way comparable to Naruto who is almost exclusively using the Kyuubi's power. The only reason people say it's borrowed is because they don't want Naruto to be alone in the borrowed powers club.

 

[Aya San]

dont waste your time with him, it seems we do agree on things.

Its understandable how ppl get mad when naruto fanboys post trash like that.


somehow naruto having the strongest charka beast isnt a given power

or the fact that his momma had to fight his battle for him to gain control





ahhaha i find it funny you post this after i soloed both you and that other person post.

now they dont matter and you want to move on lol.

its cool tho

Solo'd what? I pointed out that EMS is in fact stolen power, but it doesn't matter since Sasuke has it anway. Funny troll thinking you "solo'd" something when you didn't do anything Lol

It's alright, I give it to you to make you happy with your life Lol

 

[spckoroma]

It clearly isn't a borrowed power, since it isn't a power at all. It didn't give Sasuke anything he didn't already have. It just made a power he already attained permanent. It is in no way comparable to Naruto who is almost exclusively using the Kyuubi's power. The only reason people say it's borrowed is because they don't want Naruto to be alone in the borrowed powers club.

to get back what they have lost.............. by taking something to be able to use it again............. that borrowing bro get over it.