EMS better then Rinnegan? Yes i think so!

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PS takes a while to fully form. Watch it in the anime
 

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:sy: Dogs are invincible, and theres more than one animal summon, but only one PS

everything has a weakness and i think its fair enough to say the dogs aint the biggest problem.
 

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Madara used HIS powers to control nine tail, i would say controlling bijuus is part of his power

That can only be taken into account that he has a tailed beast to control at their fight... if their isn't a bijuu then there is no bijuu to control... thats just like saying kiba can do that two headed wolf transformation tech that he does with akamaru without his dog being there to do it... it either doesn't work at all or it is very ineffective
 

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BS itachi had like 30 seconds to think of a plan to stop CT it only took 5 seconds for him to activate PS + KYUUBI

LOL Bs on your part, PS was already activated before he formed it around kurama. Plus kurama didnt have the bone structure needed for a regular susanoo. Which is proven to take longer. It also took more than one panel for madara to even stabilize susanoo and he still has to whip out his sword and aim at an incredibly strong gravitational pull.
 

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EMS Madara owns Nagato yes, but naturally attained Rinnengan is stronger than EMS.
 

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everything has a weakness and i think its fair enough to say the dogs aint the biggest problem.

Yea youre right they arent. But CBT is death and im just pointing out that the animal summons = overkill

lets look at the abilities for a sec

EMS abilities that madara/sasuke(only known users) posses:


Amaterasu
Blaze Release
Shield of Black Flames
Susanoo
Tsukuyomi
Yasaka Magatama

Rinnegan abilities that nagato/obito/madara(all known users besides the So6P) users possess:

Animal Path
Asura Path
Banshō Ten'in
Chibaku Tensei
Deva Path
Human Path
Naraka Path
Outer Path
Preta Path
Shinra Tensei
Six Paths Technique
Summoning: Gedo Mazou
Mastery of all elemental natures

Its obvious which dojutsu has more techniques and versatility

EMS Madara owns Nagato yes, but naturally attained Rinnengan is stronger than EMS.

Yes i agree with this, If nagato were to attain his rinnegan naturally, he would be stronger than madara
 
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EMS Madara owns Nagato yes, but naturally attained Rinnengan is stronger than EMS.

I dont think it is so easy to naturally attain Rinnegan. We know Madara got it on his dead bed. I think so6p it the only person to be capable of using the full potential of Rinnegan.
 

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EMS is not better than Rinnegan, but EMS Madara would own Nagato, Nagato has NO way to hurt him besides CT which can easily be countered by Bijuu Dama or PS Sword Slashes. Gedo Mazo is beaten by Kyuubi or PS, or by PS Armored Kyuubi. Every other move is tanked by PS or PS armored Kyuubi. Like I said, Nagato has NO way to hurt him thus has a ZERO percent chance of winning.
 

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Yea youre right they arent. But CBT is death and im just pointing out that the animal summons = overkill

lets look at the abilities for a sec

EMS abilities that madara/sasuke(only known users) posses:


Amaterasu
Blaze Release
Shield of Black Flames
Susanoo
Tsukuyomi
Yasaka Magatama

Rinnegan abilities that nagato/obito/madara(all known users besides the So6P) users possess:

Animal Path
Asura Path
Banshō Ten'in
Chibaku Tensei
Deva Path
Human Path
Naraka Path
Outer Path
Preta Path
Shinra Tensei
Six Paths Technique
Summoning: Gedo Mazou
Mastery of all elemental natures

Its obvious which dojutsu has more techniques and versatility


Yes i agree with this, If nagato were to attain his rinnegan naturally, he would be stronger than madara

but it dosen't help if most of the abilites are useless
 

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Rinnegan>EMS without a doubt, the techniques it grants you are so OPed that no one has reached it yet.
But EMS Madara can beat beat nagato with med diff. Perfect Susanoo would be too much for someone not wiyh the full power of rinnegan.
Obito would rinnegan would be a different story, he's the closes one to its full power (alive) and would murder EMS Madara.
 

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EMS is not better than Rinnegan, but EMS Madara would own Nagato, Nagato has NO way to hurt him besides CT which can easily be countered by Bijuu Dama or PS Sword Slashes. Gedo Mazo is beaten by Kyuubi or PS, or by PS Armored Kyuubi. Every other move is tanked by PS or PS armored Kyuubi. Like I said, Nagato has NO way to hurt him thus has a ZERO percent chance of winning.

about time someone understands things!
 

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Rinnegan>EMS without a doubt, the techniques it grants you are so OPed that no one has reached it yet.
But EMS Madara can beat beat nagato with med diff. Perfect Susanoo would be too much for someone not wiyh the full power of rinnegan.
Obito would rinnegan would be a different story, he's the closes one to its full power (alive) and would murder EMS Madara.

i dont think he can take good use of the Rinnegan, his chakra reserves are to low.
 

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Full power shinra tensei
Gedo mazo
Dragon jutsu
BT
Planetary devastation
The path that absorbs chakra. Could absorb susanoo
Multiple summonings.

The rinnegan is a all around better dojutsu. It would annihilate ems. It's even stated in the manga that the rinnegan is the ultimate dojutsu.
 

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Thread is so wrong, you say ems>rinnengan but went to explain madara>nagato. Does this mean ems madara>rinnengan madara? I don't even think you understand the rinnengan nor the evolution of sharingan.
 

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What unique genetic traits? I saw pictures of Uchihas and Senjus and they seemed like a pretty diverse group... Especially with Hashirama and Tobirama(Did you see those two? You never would have known they were brothers if you were never told) Also, didn't Senju get strength of body from the Rikudo Sennin? I believe it said that the Senju gained the Sage's physical energy and life force. While the Uzumaki's are known for huge chakra reserves and their longevity. Sounds like physical energy and life force to me. So the connection seems more than just "paltry".

Well, firstly only Uchiha can awaken Sharingan, no other clan in Naruto can. You need their DNA to first manifest their eyes. That's one of their unique genetic traits. I'm sure it goes a lot further than that; they probably have a multitude of characteristics that are unique to their DNA. Characteristics which are necessary in order to be fully able to use their KG (Sharingan) amongst other things.

I suppose the Senju and Uzumaki do share similar traits but they're still distinctly different. Honestly, the entire 'Uzumaki' thing was an asspull from Kishi, it almost doesn't make any sense.
Madara doesn't even remotely care about what clan Naruto belongs to.
 
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