Elder son's eyes not rennigan (maybe who knows)

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Well I'm not so sure that the so6p elder son actually had the Rinnegan.

Here are 2 pictures to compare.

pains Rinnegan
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elder sons eye
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See the difference? elders is more of a spiral.

But honestly this doesn't mean it isn't Rinnegan ya know? It could be a manga miss draw. (its happened before and can be an honest mistake)

Or it was planned and it could be a sort of ems. Some ems look cool with strange designs, Always going a little inwards towards the pupil or outwards from the pupil. Which also the sharingan has its design spiraling towards the pupil as well. (or away its kind of hard to tell ha ha)


normal sharingan
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kakashi's ms
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sasukes ms
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itachis ms
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shishuis ms
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madaras ms
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izunas ms
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sasukes ems
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madaras ems
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see they all kind of go in and out towards and away from the pupil. (except madara's and sasukes, Which could maybe point to the possibility of Rinnegan? who knows)

Honestly if it was really the case that Rinnegan was the fully developed sharingan. Then I wouldn't be all that mad. And here is why.

If some how sasuke got the Rinnegan (god forbid....) Then that means that naruto would have to get a power of equal value seeing as they are supposed to be evenly matched.

Which means (if the writers are lazy) Naruto gets Rinnegan (i would probably stop reading the manga ha ha Rinnegan vs Rinnegan XD wtf)

OR naruto developes something that maxes out his body and lifeforce.
Maybe mixing nature energy with the demon fox energy. Or he gets another random power XD. Which honestly would be nice to see some sort of ability that can compete with the Rinnegan and sharingan abilities.

But I'm not sure XD maybe i am looking at something that is not there. What do you guys think?
 
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No, just no. This is obviously a hieroglyph portrayed in the anime (which means of course it isn't going to be a splitting image of the actual thing). It looks closer to the Rinnengan than any other doujutsu in the series.

It's the Rinnengan. Point blank.
 

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No, just no. This is obviously a hieroglyph portrayed in the anime (which means of course it isn't going to be a splitting image of the actual thing). It looks closer to the Rinnengan than any other doujutsu in the series.

It's the Rinnengan. Point blank.
See thats what im thinking too XD and kind of hopeing cause i want naruto to get an unstoppible power like a rennigan (i know rennigan isn't unstoppable... but you get what i mean).

But im just throwing out ideas XD cause we all know how kishi likes to fu%$ with us ha ha.
 

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I created a thread about the elder son having rinnegan but you might be right that the spiral eyes are maybe forms of ems but the manga told us he got his fathers eyes so idk xd.
But madara has more than one doujutsu (ems and rinnegan) so it's possible that the elder son has more than one doujutsu as well... Or those eyes are diluted version of the rinnegan. But i guess we'll find out more about the rinnegan next week.
 

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he is right






it's hard to tell from the manga though. but kishi made them a spiral!
 

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he is right






it's hard to tell from the manga though. but kishi made them a spiral!
that was very veige for "he" XD. But it is super blurry ha ha. who knows right? Honestly i think this is just how people try to sooth there "I WANT THE NEXT MANGA NOW!!!" erges so i just jumped on the train of guessing. XD.

And im not sure how that proves its a rennigan? if kishi made them a spiril then doesn't that mean its not quite a rennigan?

or meybe its just a custom rennigan, Just cause ha ha. who knows. Its just fun to think really.
 
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that was very veige for "he" XD. But it is super blurry ha ha. who knows right? Honestly i think this is just how people try to sooth there "I WANT THE NEXT MANGA NOW!!!" erges so i just jumped on the train of guessing. XD.

And im not sure how that proves its a rennigan? if kishi made them a spiril then doesn't that mean its not quite a rennigan?

or meybe its just a custom rennigan, Just cause ha ha. who knows. Its just fun to think really.
Maybe we'll just have to find wait and see if it comes up again
 

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well id say its the rinnegan do to the fact that kishi didnt say it wasnt yet....he said "the eldest son INHERITED" the sage's "EYES" nothing less, we know the senju do NOT have ocular powers unless modified or implanted like every1 else, so that leaves one other clan to be the natural owner of the rinnegan...and that is the uchiha, no matter how you look at it

lol just let the uchiha have their doujutsu, the senju could already stalemate them dispite all of this ocular power of theirs, the senju need nothing more, heck...long lives, overwhelming chakra, outstanding endurance & no evil spirits inside them xD let the uchiha have their eyes, its all they have really
 

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<div class="bbWrapper">Just a thought, but who said that all Rinnegans look the same? They <u>might</u> look the same, but so far we've only seen one single pair as quoted here:<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=0" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-0">captainEO said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> I don't know what you mean by handing out Rinnegans<br /> <br /> There's really only 1 pair or set of Rinnegan<br /> <br /> It's actually sort of like one of those temporal paradoxes. All the Rinnegan actually belong to Madara.<br /> <br /> 1. Madara is the original weilder of Rinnegan<br /> 2. Nagato receives Madara's Rinnegan<br /> 3. 'Tobi' aka Madara? then takes Rinnegan back from Nagato<br /> <br /> So technically it has only appeared once in a lifetime, because there is only 1 pair. Kishi you clever bastard </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>That could explain why the eyes of the elder son look differently. That part was also pretty late in the Manga, when we already knew how Nagato's (= Madaras) Rinnegan looked like. If all Mangekyo Sharingans look differently, then the same might be the case for the Rinnegan.</div>
 

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Just a thought, but who said that all Rinnegans look the same? They might look the same, but so far we've only seen one single pair as quoted here:



That could explain why the eyes of the elder son look differently. That part was also pretty late in the Manga, when we already knew how Nagato's (= Madaras) Rinnegan looked like. If all Mangekyo Sharingans look differently, then the same might be the case for the Rinnegan.
It's a nice thought and you could be right but we have to account for what Rinnegan actually means.

In japanese Rinne means : the evelasting cycle of life,death and rebirth.

Now look at the rinnegan, it has three ripples and I believe they represent these three qualities of "rinne". Elders doujutsu is different. If rinnegan is everlasting cycle than Elders doujutsu is something that has a start and an ending.


See the fragment of on this matter :

-Mind blowing discovery of new, yet unmentioned Doujutsu!


Sage, along with the Rinnegan, was introduced before his sons :







This can only mean that Uchiha clan's ancestor swirly doujutsu is not a mistake of manga! It was drawn by Kishimoto with intention! Elder son eyes are derived from Rinnegan but they are not exactly Rinnegan, it's something similiar but different nonetheless. Another Enigma!

Also, take a look what I said about this doujutsu in my thread :

You know that swirl reminds me awefuly alot of Tobi's warp tech. Just sayn.

Kamui = sharingan tech

Tobi's warp = swirly doujutsu tech.

Sharingan = derived from Elder son's doujutsu, obviosly sharingan and it's jutsus are going to be inferior to the doujutsu it derived from.

Kamui = inferior to warp tech of Tobi

The 3rd Databook says : "If one spends a lot of time and trains one's chakra over and over again, this technique can be invoked." This supports my idea even more than before!

That's why Kakashi's kamui is inferior to Tobi's tech and that's why it won't work on Tobi.

Besides, Sages rinnegan is exactly the same as Madara's/Nagato's/Tobi's. Unless you say that elder son implanted the sages eyes in Nagato than there are atleast two rinnegan pairs that look the same.
 
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