Eight Trigrams Vacuum Palm is underrated/ misunderstood

[KCMNaruto]

Lol did i left?


Anyway, i dont think vacuum palm is one shot due to lack of feats, so therefore it gonna remain underrated and overlooked, even hyuuga dont say about it much.

As always perfectly said ,although it is sad I mean so much waster potential which Kishi himself bothered to introduce at first ;/

 

[Made in Heaven]

You need to remember only the clan leader/successor have the ability to learn 64 plams, rotations and other high level techniques, Neji was the only none main branch member to master it, normal clan members range from low chunin to low/med jounin level

Like I said Neji is the clan prodigy and probably the strongest hyuuga and he is compared to high jounins at best

No, Only rotation is heir-exclusive.

64 Palms and Twin Lion Fists is main-exclusive.

Air Palm is a freebee

 

[FemmeFatale]

Neji > Asuma, Baki, Kurenai, Kankuro, Temari, Anko, Kakashi, Ebisu, Cie, Shikaku, Inochi, Shizune, Mikoto and Fugaku, so nah.

Shizune solos NEji so badly

 

[Hyuga Prodigy]

The hyuga have always been underrated under any circumstance U_U People failed to acknowledge the fact that the living organs cannot be trained no matter how strong your body is anything that is strucked by the Gentlefist and Airpalm can easily be destroyed and can shutdown all the chakra network.

 

[Dockinabix]

Shizune solos NEji so badly

If you have nothing more clever/interresting/constructive to say can you just shut the f*** up ?

Back to thread, the only reason for all this potential stuff be underated is because editors pushed Kishi to put Uchiha more in the light than Hyuuga for comercial issues.

We can see than in CQC the only rivals the Hyuuga can have are Guy/Lee, Raikage. But since cqc is not enough fappable material for the basic readers...

It's sac, cqc fights are way more dynamic than those DBZ-like fight who ****s up completly with the idea and philosophy of a ninja.

 

[FemmeFatale]

If you have nothing more clever/interresting/constructive to say can you just shut the f*** up ?

Back to thread, the only reason for all this potential stuff be underated is because editors pushed Kishi to put Uchiha more in the light than Hyuuga for comercial issues.

We can see than in CQC the only rivals the Hyuuga can have are Guy/Lee, Raikage. But since cqc is not enough fappable material for the basic readers...

It's sac, cqc fights are way more dynamic than those DBZ-like fight who ****s up completly with the idea and philosophy of a ninja.

Pooh, you can go do a couple of things that im far too much of a lady to say.
SHanaroo outta here

 

[super yang]

or U can ''target'' internal organs w/ blunt force trauma from a distance, instead of ''targeting'' them using jyuken chakra flow in cqc.

I support the hyuuga as much as anybody, but kaiten & air palm are clearly blunt force trauma jutsu that momentarily stun & daze(aside from the blunt trauma) the victims chakra at best, more like getting punched in the chin, but still being able to use jutsu, provided U have ''shaken it off''

...Its okay, really, it is...

 

[KCMNaruto]

The hyuga have always been underrated under any circumstance U_U People failed to acknowledge the fact that the living organs cannot be trained no matter how strong your body is anything that is strucked by the Gentlefist and Airpalm can easily be destroyed and can shutdown all the chakra network.

That because

First, Vacuum Palm's main property to damage internal organs in target wasn't properly explored by user never having chance to face someone with normal body with internal organs working while feeling pain.

Second, The only one close to normal would be Body used by Kisame with Shouten no jutsu of Pein, yet back then Neji's air palm wasn't as impressive as later.

Third, They barerly screen-time, the speed and reaction-time feats is what people see lacking to agree then could get someone in cqc, or at least as I see it.

Back to thread, the only reason for all this potential stuff be underated is because editors pushed Kishi to put Uchiha more in the light than Hyuuga for comercial issues.

We can see than in CQC the only rivals the Hyuuga can have are Guy/Lee, Raikage. But since cqc is not enough fappable material for the basic readers...

It's sac, cqc fights are way more dynamic than those DBZ-like fight who ****s up completly with the idea and philosophy of a ninja.

I agree... although I am also DBZ fan and I would like to differ about DBZ. However still keeping some guys as unique fighters by damaging your internal organs passing from any outside protection would be nice addition to Kishi's manga if he keep consistent with them

 

[closecombat1254]

Yet none of them were ever put about any Kage , in their entire history... hmm.

There seem to be many ways that people can deal with the hyuuga in a 1 vs 1, but they were not shown.

Please tell me how because a full grown hyuga that can see miles away and know the family tech is handle

 

[Honord Sage]

The way I see it, the Vacuum palm can damage internal organs like the Gentle fist, but it cannot close the Tenketsu.



Those natures only show what the user could master if they put the time in, it doesn't show what they have already mastered.

She does not have Fire nor Lightning, but could if she trained to.

Are you forge thing both Naruto and Sasuke are elemental users,they can train their Wives and children to used them,they have the knowledge to do so.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Anyone wanting to add something to it ?

 

[Hyuga Prodigy]

That because

First, Vacuum Palm's main property to damage internal organs in target wasn't properly explored by user never having chance to face someone with normal body with internal organs working while feeling pain.

Second, The only one close to normal would be Body used by Kisame with Shouten no jutsu of Pein, yet back then Neji's air palm wasn't as impressive as later.

Third, They barerly screen-time, the speed and reaction-time feats is what people see lacking to agree then could get someone in cqc, or at least as I see it.

Ok I understand for some certain people who'd never grasp the knowledge from the manga since Kishi love to leave shit left unexplained, but despite reading the databook, I still see some dispute made especially from Sakura fans that I noticed.

I dunno how to explain but Kisame was using disposable body which probably had no effect to the real kisame when the organs that had been strucked by Air palm was sent direct to the duplicate body instead. As long as the chakra allocate by pain does not depleted, the sacrificial will still remain.

Neji air palm was probably not strong enough to blow Kisame miles was probably because he didn't mastered as you said, but there could be another possible case which is Kisame probably weigh tons and or he used samahada to slow him down preventing thrust hard by Airpalm and even then Neji still blowed him 200-300 meters from the look of it..

Well these are my specualtion, so you take it as how you will.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Ok I understand for some certain people who'd never grasp the knowledge from the manga since Kishi love to leave shit left unexplained, but despite reading the databook, I still see some dispute made especially from Sakura fans that I noticed.

I dunno how to explain but Kisame was using disposable body which probably had no effect to the real kisame when the organs that had been strucked by Air palm was sent direct to the duplicate body instead. As long as the chakra allocate by pain does not depleted, the sacrificial will still remain.

Neji air palm was probably not strong enough to blow Kisame miles was probably because he didn't mastered as you said, but there could be another possible case which is Kisame probably weigh tons and or he used samahada to slow him down preventing thrust hard by Airpalm and even then Neji still blowed him 200-300 meters from the look of it..

Well these are my specualtion, so you take it as how you will.

I agree, and I prefer to go with Simply Shouten no Jutsu making body resistant to any internal damages aside of heart damage and all vital organs damage of which Neji was incapable of with amount of chakra he put in vacuum palm or he didn't master it yet or he simply lacked time to charge it to apply more chakra which could destroy that body ;P