Edos and Kabuto, oro

[KingHashirama]

Thing people don't get about EDOS is that its not the user's power.. For example, if 3rd Raikage would've beat Naruto.. The credit would go to 3rd Raikage, not Kabuto. Same goes for Oro. Oro's Edos were there to assist him to take on Sarutobi (Which was a fail).

Summons are used for assistance. They do not count as the user's own power. Sure they have them in their arsenal.. but for when they need assistance. When Kabuto/ Oro use Edo in a battle they are saying that they can't take on the person themselves

Assistance never = your own power.

 

[Narutohokage7]

So if Hizuren hadn't had Emna he would of been f**ked?

 

[Simple Math]

who is using the summoning jutsu? Kabuto.. simply as that

 

[Valen]

its an assist, like a summoning?

its your summoning?

 

[Midday]

Edo's are a summoning jutsu, but can be a lot more overpowered. By your logic animal path is garbage with no power. Stop trying to discredit a users power, as far as i'm concerned what they've used and shown in the manga counts as their power.

 

[Darth Vader]

A summoning is a technique used by a user. Therefore, it's the user's power. Plus, Oro and Kabuto CONTROL their summons. Their power.

 

[~Puppet Master~]

Fact remains that Edo Tensei allows Kabuto to kill someone he can't kill without edo's.

 

[UchihaIzuna]

Thing people don't get about EDOS is that its not the user's power.. For example, if 3rd Raikage would've beat Naruto.. The credit would go to 3rd Raikage, not Kabuto. Same goes for Oro. Oro's Edos were there to assist him to take on Sarutobi (Which was a fail).

Summons are used for assistance. They do not count as the user's own power. Sure they have them in their arsenal.. but for when they need assistance. When Kabuto/ Oro use Edo in a battle they are saying that they can't take on the person themselves

Assistance never = your own power.

kabuto got the dna to summon the people, kabuto did the seals and kabuto sent them to the fights, stop being mad just because you dont like kabuto/oro, using that exact same logic naruto summons a shadow clone to help in battle and the clone gets a kill, we should praise the clone?

 

[~Dream~]

It's his power, he summoned them and the dead fight for him. He controls Edo Tensei, that means it's his power..

 

[DeathByHugs]

Edo makes Kabuto #1 u mad?

 

[Deadai]

Thing people don't get about EDOS is that its not the user's power.. For example, if 3rd Raikage would've beat Naruto.. The credit would go to 3rd Raikage, not Kabuto. Same goes for Oro. Oro's Edos were there to assist him to take on Sarutobi (Which was a fail).

Summons are used for assistance. They do not count as the user's own power. Sure they have them in their arsenal.. but for when they need assistance. When Kabuto/ Oro use Edo in a battle they are saying that they can't take on the person themselves

Assistance never = your own power.

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[KingHashirama]

So if Hizuren hadn't had Emna he would of been f**ked?

And were you paying attention to why he summoned Enma?? He summoned him to help out...

who is using the summoning jutsu? Kabuto.. simply as that

So Madara is Kabuto's power?? its his Jutsu right?? uh no. Again, your being a fanboy, and denying the thing about summons, THEY ARE FOR ASSISTANCE.

its an assist, like a summoning?

its your summoning?

And summonings are for assistance...Doesn't mean it ain't your arsenal.. There is a reason why Tsunade didn't summon Katsuyu in the middle of the fight... Cause she didn't need assistance and didn't want Katsuyu to get hurt.. Summoning is a another thing/or person helping you out

Edo's are a summoning jutsu, but can be a lot more overpowered. By your logic animal path is garbage with no power. Stop trying to discredit a users power, as far as i'm concerned what they've used and shown in the manga counts as their power.

Summons are for assistance... If you paid attention.. its not by my logic.. Its by the manga.. Why did they summon the animals.. So they could help them destroy konoha. User's power?? uh no. its a outside power. Edo is used for assistance..

Your opinion < Manga...

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Edos are just like Any other summon.. The fact remains. He used them to assist him in the war. Or are you saying Kabuto was fighting through the summons? Itachi wasn't Kabuto's power.. Gamabunta isn't Jirayas... They are summons...... used to assist you in battle..

 

[Deadai]

And were you paying attention to why he summoned Enma?? He summoned him to help out...



So Madara is Kabuto's power?? its his Jutsu right?? uh no. Again, your being a fanboy, and denying the thing about summons, THEY ARE FOR ASSISTANCE.



And summonings are for assistance...Doesn't mean it ain't your arsenal.. There is a reason why Tsunade didn't summon Katsuyu in the middle of the fight... Cause she didn't need assistance and didn't want Katsuyu to get hurt.. Summoning is a another thing/or person helping you out


Summons are for assistance... If you paid attention.. its not by my logic.. Its by the manga.. Why did they summon the animals.. So they could help them destroy konoha. User's power?? uh no. its a outside power. Edo is used for assistance..

Your opinion < Manga...



Edos are just like Any other summon.. The fact remains. He used them to assist him in the war. Or are you saying Kabuto was fighting through the summons? Itachi wasn't Kabuto's power.. Gamabunta isn't Jirayas... They are summons...... used to assist you in battle..

Kabuto does fight through his summon's when they are put under full control.

 

[Simple Math]

actually the credit would go to Kabuto since its him using the jutsu, controlling the users and tell them what to do...
your logic is trash

 

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[UchihaIzuna]

your logic fails when you come to naruto and the fox's power, did naruto not work to control it making it his power?

also going off your thing of assistance the only 1v1 fights in the whole series were at the chuunin exams

 

[Draegod]

Fail! Kishi says its his power! Unless you have any proof any where in the entire manga saying what your saying! You Fail!!!

I guess if naruto uses Kyubi to beat madara the kyubi won and not naruto???

I guess if hashirama used the wood dragon to beat kurama, it doesnt count as his win???

Where are you getting the hint that a summon isnt part of the user power when it is blood contract, or sacrifice???

 

[Simple Math]

i love how people are trying to restrict Kabuto's Et because they hate him and doesnt want him to be #1

 

[ALCH3MY]

In my opinion:
It was kabuto/Oro who used the summons. Buti would say it depends who is in control.
Example -
When Oro was in control of the 1st & 2nd. If they had won, i would have said the win goes to Oro, because he was using his skills to beat the 3rd. & was controlling them.
But if we changed it to Edo Kakazu, and he killed someone, i would class that as a win for kakazu (not kabuto).
Because kabuto is in control of himself + using his own skills to win

I say it depends on whether the Edo is in control of themselves or not, to who can claim the win as their own...

 

[KingHashirama]

Fail! Kishi says its his power! Unless you have any proof any where in the entire manga saying what your saying! You Fail!!!

I guess if naruto uses Kyubi to beat madara the kyubi won and not naruto???

I guess if hashirama used the wood dragon to beat kurama, it doesnt count as his win???

Where are you getting the hint that a summon isnt part of the user power when it is blood contract, or sacrifice???

Kishi said that?? when? or did Kabuto say that..

Again go learn what a summon is..