Edo Tensei

[NBC Sudowoodo]

Hi, I didn't see a thread anywhere about this so I thought I'd ask. I've always wondered how exactly the Edo Tensei works. I would like to ask some questions and hope that someone out there would help me understand a bit more about it from their knowledge? I'll state the "facts" that are known to be necessary for Edo Tensei.

1. You need DNA of some shape or form to someone a person.

2. The person soul who are sealed previously cannot be summoned.

3. A dead sacrifice is needed to be used as a vessel for Edo Tensei.

4. They can be controlled and restricted by using talismans.

5.They inherit keep all moves previously learned whilst alive.

6. They are invunerable, or rather they cannot be killed physically.

If I've missed any out could someone please let me know and I'll add them with an edit. My questions are.

1. Those who are summoned are summoned in the state they died or in their prime state? As nagato was brought back to using Edo Tensei and in was in his frail form, but when sasori was brought back he was in his human form?

2. Can Edo Tensei be used to recover lost limbs? By this I mean itachi died and his eyes were taken, however he was brought back and his eyes were still intact? But again when Nagato was brough back he was in his frail form not his normal form?

3. Once the soul leaves like with Haku or Zabuza and Sasori etc, are they resummonable? (not a word I know) But do their souls reside/go back to the same place? Because then they can just be resummoned and then controlled fully no?

4. Lastly how did Itachi get out of being controlled? I know he said that he used Shisui's eye for a genjustu, but I don't understand how a genjustu overcomes a summoning that's being controlled by someone else? I would understand if it was used on Kabuto but I don't get why it affected Itachi.. Can someone shed some light on this for me? Thankyou for your time =D

P.s. I'm heartbroken that Shisui and Obito weren't resurrected.... Q_Q

 

[Cerox0]

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[kaka96]

3: it's a living sarifice

 

[datbasianboy]

they are reborn with there keke genkai thats why itachi had his eyes

 

[kaka96]

3: it's a living sarifice

It's the state they were in at the moment of their death, that's why Itachi and Nagato kept their eyes, yet Nagato was still weak from his reviving of all Konoha

And Itachi didn't exactly break loose but he was following the order given by Koto and since it's already what he wants, it just allowed him to do as he pleased

 

[MacMiller]

1. Don't know how to answer.
2. The revived ones are brought back to life right before they died. Itachi had his eyes, and Nagato was crippled.
3. Once sealed, they cannot be summoned through Edo Tensei again.
4. The command on the genjutsu was to 'Protect Konoha.' Itachi was forced to protect Konoha. He said that he layered a genjutsu above Kabuto's technique, Edo Tensei. So even though Kabuto had control of Itachi, Shisui's genjutsu is more powerful.

 

[Cerox0]

I'll answer regardless though.

1. That was Sasori's real body before he turned into a puppet, chiyo was brought back as an old hag so they are not back as prime but when they died.

2. In my Link it says how KG abilities are still passed through Edo Tensei so Rinnegan and Sharingan included.

3. They leave come from the impure world and go back to the pure, even thought it was not said in the manga by that logic if they are no longer there they cannot be re-summmoned.

4. The command on the genjutsu was to 'Protect Konoha.' Itachi was forced to protect Konoha. He said that he layered a genjutsu above Kabuto's technique, Edo Tensei. So even though Kabuto had control of Itachi, Shisui's genjutsu is more powerful.

 

[NBC Sudowoodo]

3: it's a living sarifice

Thankyou, my mistake =D 3am here xD

It's the state they were in at the moment of their death, that's why Itachi and Nagato kept their eyes, yet Nagato was still weak from his reviving of all Konoha

And Itachi didn't exactly break loose but he was following the order given by Koto and since it's already what he wants, it just allowed him to do as he pleased

So in other words a genjutsu over ruled chakra control and gave itachi free will?

they are reborn with there keke genkai thats why itachi had his eyes

Wouldn't that mean that Nagato to have been brought back to life with the Rinnegan mean that it belongs to him? Or would Danzo and Kakashi be brought back to life with their stolen sharingan too?

I'll answer regardless though.

1. That was Sasori's real body before he turned into a puppet, chiyo was brought back as an old hag so they are not back as prime but when they died.

So are Illnesses and such null and void when one is brought back using edo tensei too? Like Kimimrao's illnesses or Itachi's blindness and illness? You basically brought back in tip top condition right? Why does that not apply to Nagato though? - sorry if it sounds stupid

 

[Shino Swagg]

Hi, I didn't see a thread anywhere about this so I thought I'd ask. I've always wondered how exactly the Edo Tensei works. I would like to ask some questions and hope that someone out there would help me understand a bit more about it from their knowledge? I'll state the "facts" that are known to be necessary for Edo Tensei.

1. You need DNA of some shape or form to someone a person.

2. The person soul who are sealed previously cannot be summoned.

3. A dead sacrifice is needed to be used as a vessel for Edo Tensei.

4. They can be controlled and restricted by using talismans.

5.They inherit keep all moves previously learned whilst alive.

6. They are invunerable, or rather they cannot be killed physically.

If I've missed any out could someone please let me know and I'll add them with an edit. My questions are.

1. Those who are summoned are summoned in the state they died or in their prime state? As nagato was brought back to using Edo Tensei and in was in his frail form, but when sasori was brought back he was in his human form?

2. Can Edo Tensei be used to recover lost limbs? By this I mean itachi died and his eyes were taken, however he was brought back and his eyes were still intact? But again when Nagato was brough back he was in his frail form not his normal form?

3. Once the soul leaves like with Haku or Zabuza and Sasori etc, are they resummonable? (not a word I know) But do their souls reside/go back to the same place? Because then they can just be resummoned and then controlled fully no?

4. Lastly how did Itachi get out of being controlled? I know he said that he used Shisui's eye for a genjustu, but I don't understand how a genjustu overcomes a summoning that's being controlled by someone else? I would understand if it was used on Kabuto but I don't get why it affected Itachi.. Can someone shed some light on this for me? Thankyou for your time =D

P.s. I'm heartbroken that Shisui and Obito weren't resurrected.... Q_Q

If I'm correct I believe that when using edo tensei the body comes back the way it was when the DNA was taken. For example, if Itachi's DNA was taken when he had his Sharingan he would have it again.

And for #3 I believe that once they bring peace to thier souls it's almost the opposite from thier souls being sealed. If they wilingly accept death then they're soul is free from this realm.

And for #4 Shisui's eye was in Naruto to force the best outcome for the leaf village. At that moment Itachi was being used to go against the leaf village and that's when Shisui's eye activated breaking Itachi from Kabuto's hold. I'm not 100% on all the details but it's something like that.

 

[iSpeak]

1. Edo Tensei doesn't bring you back how you died or in their prime... that is a really big misconception on NB. It simply brings them back at the age of which the dna was taken. Example, if the dna was taken from a 5 year old Nagato, then he would be brought back at 5 years old (or else how would the dna know what he looked like when he died if it was taken way before?). This can explain why Madara was brought back young when the Manga suggests that he died at an old age. Most of the dna which Kabuto had got was from "grave robbing" so since the dna was taken after they died they were brought back how they died. That is why many people think Edo Tensei brings them back how they died.

2. Kabuto has already explained why they were brought back with their eyes.

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"The revived person follows my orders, cant be killed and is able to use all of their original techniques. That includes unique abilities like those afforded by the Sage of the six Paths' Rinnegan (shows a picture of Nagato) or Itachi's Sharingan."
They are even brought back with abilities which were not originally theirs such as Nagato's Rinnegan, KinGin's 9 tails chakra, Hanzo's poison etc. I would guess that it is the soul of the person being revived which allows Edo Tensei to know their abilities/memories, so they are revived with all of them, not matter when the dna was taken.

3. I don't see why not. They should be able to be re-summoned.

4. Then genjutsu was simply powerful enough to negate Kabuto's control over him. I guess the genjutsu overrode the talisman.

 

[spatha]

ok to tackle your questions, !. Generally they are summoned to how they were at the time of death, however i believe kabuto figured out how to alter it (madara uchiha was said to have unlocked rinnegan long after fighting hashi, so since he isnt an old man he must have been altered.). 2. I believe it can regrow lost limbs, as thats the only explanation for itachi having his MS again even though his eyes were taken. 3. Well, if im not mistaken all three that you listed were sealed, meaning that unless someone removes said seal their soul is unusable from then on. 4. itachi broke free of the jutsu because he was affected by kotoamatsukami, which is said in several places to be the ultimate genjutsu, because it is so powerful that it can affect someone without anyone knowing it, so it was able to override the talismen that kabuto placed in itachi. Note though, that it didnt totally free him from it because he said a couple times that all he had to do to beat itachi was release Edo Tensei, and if it totally freed itachi, he would essentially be immortal.

 

[cyco22]

its really confuging

 

[MacMiller]

I'll answer regardless though.

1. That was Sasori's real body before he turned into a puppet, chiyo was brought back as an old hag so they are not back as prime but when they died.

2. In my Link it says how KG abilities are still passed through Edo Tensei so Rinnegan and Sharingan included.

3. They leave come from the impure world and go back to the pure, even thought it was not said in the manga by that logic if they are no longer there they cannot be re-summmoned.

4. The command on the genjutsu was to 'Protect Konoha.' Itachi was forced to protect Konoha. He said that he layered a genjutsu above Kabuto's technique, Edo Tensei. So even though Kabuto had control of Itachi, Shisui's genjutsu is more powerful.

You just copied and pasted my fourth point. WTH

 

[NBC Sudowoodo]

1. Edo Tensei doesn't bring you back how you died or in their prime... that is a really big misconception on NB. It simply brings them back at the age of which the dna was taken. Example, if the dna was taken from a 5 year old Nagato, then he would be brought back at 5 years old (or else how would the dna know what he looked like when he died if it was taken way before?). This can explain why Madara was brought back young when the Manga suggests that he died at an old age. Most of the dna which Kabuto had got was from "grave robbing" so since the dna was taken after they died they were brought back how they died. That is why many people think Edo Tensei brings them back how they died.

If DNA was taken from someone old and they appeared old, and DNA was taken from someone young and they appear young (that makes perfect sense to me) naturally wouldn't graverobbing be a skeleton? It's a double negative in the sense that you're using a dead persons dna? Or am I missing something, because apparently when you use a dead persons dna in this manga it goes back to their last moment before they die? (god knows how he got deidara's dna!) does that mean everyone who's summoned now were either dead at that age, or dna were taken at that age? Thankyou for your reply

 

[NBC Sudowoodo]

3. Well, if im not mistaken all three that you listed were sealed, meaning that unless someone removes said seal their soul is unusable from then on.

Were they sealed? My mistake, I thought they left because their emotional attachment was fulfilled, but what I mean is you know how others are actually sealed, their bodies are sealed not their souls, so if the Edo Tensei was released they'd would be able to be resummoned right? And those who's souls left because of emotional attachment would they go back to heaven to be able to be resummoned too?

 

[rollin]

for question 1. since itachi died first then got his sharingan taken out he was resurrected with it.

 

[zombiejesus]

they are brought back in the shape they died in thats why nagato was skinny and weak until he sucked off Bee ...and why no izuna uchiha died with no eyes and uchiha with no eyes is well as worthless as 98% of the uchiha fodder itachi killed

 

[iSpeak]

If DNA was taken from someone old and they appeared old, and DNA was taken from someone young and they appear young (that makes perfect sense to me) naturally wouldn't graverobbing be a skeleton? It's a double negative in the sense that you're using a dead persons dna? Or am I missing something, because apparently when you use a dead persons dna in this manga it goes back to their last moment before they die? (god knows how he got deidara's dna!) does that mean everyone who's summoned now were either dead at that age, or dna were taken at that age? Thankyou for your reply

Edo tensei regenerates all of your body including skin. If Jiraiya were brought back now, he would have his arm. If Raikage died and was brought back, he would have his arm. Example, Sasori died as just a core but was brought back with his whole human body. Even Deidara blew himself up but was brought back in his full body. But if they died with their arm/leg intact but not fully functional, then that is how they would be brought back (Nagato's case).
Im sure there were many place he could have got Deidara's dna from. One thing I don't really understand about Nagato is how was Kabuto able to get his dna? Better yet, how did Kabuto even know what he looked like? Even Oro shouldn't know what the Rinnegan user looked like.
Nagato's real body was always hidden. Tobi, Hanzo, Jiraiya, Naruto and Konan are the only ones I can think of who should know what he looks like. He was always hidden in the hidden rain, and used the paths to speak to the Akatsuki. After he died, he was then hidden by Konan to the point where Tobi had to fight till death and use a genjutsu on her to find out where his body was. Nagato was part of the 5 coffins which Kabuto initially showed to Tobi, which means Tobi wasn't the one who gave him the dna. The only place I can think of which Kabuto got his dna is here:

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His nose bleeds from using Rinne Tensei. But how did Kabuto know who's blood it was? (Since where he and Konan were looked well hidden)

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How did he know where Nagato was? How did he know who Nagato was? That is what confuses me.

No problem.

 

[Cerox0]

You just copied and pasted my fourth point. WTH

Yeah, my brain went poof and you answered it.

Regardless OT there you go.