Edo Madara w/ Rinnegan+PS+Mokuton+EMS > Edo Hashirama?

[MrLukyso]

People seem to be forgetting that the Rinnegan isn't that great of a feat when you have little mastery over it. This time Madara would also be in void of the most powerful bijuu of the 9 coated with Susano armour. This already is a major down set as for Madara, since we already know that the previous fight resulted in Madara being down on the floor long before Hashirama, showing how much of a difference Kurama made in that fight. The moukoton of Hashirama would most likely overpower Madara's leniently, since Madara does not have complete knowledge of moukton nor does he have enough Hashirama DNA to stand head-to-head in a moukoton fight. While all the new abilities Madara hve aren't really complemented by Edo-Tensei, Hashirama's 1000 hand statue really is, as he can do it over and over making him nearly invincible. Please don't say deva path will destroy it, 4-6 tail Naruto was capable of withstanding the force, this statue is 1000 times larger then 6 tail Naruto at he least.

Dude are you crazy ? First of all no one ever mastered Rinnegan as Madara did. He thought Obito RIKUDOUS Jutsus, Rinnegan Jutsus, he even created Gedo Mazou the demonic statue of the Outter Path, he discovered HUMAN PATH, we saw him using PRETA PATH, remember Madara is one of the most intelligent Ninjas, you think he would CREATE a plan and give Nagato most strongest Dojutsu that no one ever had without knowing what it can do ? No, just no, you're just making an assumption. In my eyes Nagato fails hard with Rinnegan in comparisment with Madara.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Rinnegan Meteorite Jutsu

 

[Stark]

Only morons will disagree.

 

[7Zero]

People seem to be forgetting that the Rinnegan isn't that great of a feat when you have little mastery over it. This time Madara would also be in void of the most powerful bijuu of the 9 coated with Susano armour. This already is a major down set as for Madara, since we already know that the previous fight resulted in Madara being down on the floor long before Hashirama, showing how much of a difference Kurama made in that fight. The moukoton of Hashirama would most likely overpower Madara's leniently, since Madara does not have complete knowledge of moukton nor does he have enough Hashirama DNA to stand head-to-head in a moukoton fight. While all the new abilities Madara hve aren't really complemented by Edo-Tensei, Hashirama's 1000 hand statue really is, as he can do it over and over making him nearly invincible. Please don't say deva path will destroy it, 4-6 tail Naruto was capable of withstanding the force, this statue is 1000 times larger then 6 tail Naruto at he least.

I can actually respect this counter argument, but the rinnegan solo's, as hammered in by the above posts.

 

[Invsblphntm]

Dude are you crazy ? First of all no one ever mastered Rinnegan as Madara did. He thought Obito RIKUDOUS Jutsus, Rinnegan Jutsus, he even created Gedo Mazou the demonic statue of the Outter Path, he discovered HUMAN PATH, we saw him using PRETA PATH, remember Madara is one of the most intelligent Ninjas, you think he would CREATE a plan and give Nagato most strongest Dojutsu that no one ever had without knowing what it can do ? No, just no, you're just making an assumption. In my eyes Nagato fails hard with Rinnegan in comparisment with Madara.

He discovered Human Path....?


He is one of the most intelligent ninjas...?

He makes Nagato fail hard in comparison...?

He taught Obito Rinnegan jutsu without the Rinnegan...?


Oh my god...

 

[htmwall]

lets see PS has two hands,shin senjuu has 1002 hands,and two that are the size of kurama full power,so two hands will stop susanoo hands,what's left?1000 hands.
madara: oh shi...?
wait but i have rinnegan!
preta path can it absorb mokuton?
shinra tensei:he's still a noob with it,if he will be able to use it the same way as nagato who spent years with rinnegan,i call it BS.
plus if he tries to push away shinsenjuu he will end up the one flying like when preta path tried to push kyuubi naruto.
i still can't see madara winning at all.

 

[NarutoIndra]

Dude are you crazy ? First of all no one ever mastered Rinnegan as Madara did. He thought Obito RIKUDOUS Jutsus, Rinnegan Jutsus, he even created Gedo Mazou the demonic statue of the Outter Path, he discovered HUMAN PATH, we saw him using PRETA PATH, remember Madara is one of the most intelligent Ninjas, you think he would CREATE a plan and give Nagato most strongest Dojutsu that no one ever had without knowing what it can do ? No, just no, you're just making an assumption. In my eyes Nagato fails hard with Rinnegan in comparisment with Madara.

Oh... the irony of you calling me crazy. I would like to nullify nearly every point you put into this argument, and with ease.

First of all no one ever mastered Rinnegan as Madara did. He thought Obito RIKUDOUS Jutsus, Rinnegan Jutsus

This is funny as well, the SO6P did master the Rinnegan to a much higher level then Madara, as Madra has not even shown enough mastery to compare with Nagato. I don't know what rikudos jutsu is since it does not exist. Madara did not teach Obito the rinnegan jutsu's at all, since he did don't even have the rinnegan until after killing Konnan.

he even created Gedo Mazou the demonic statue of the Outter Path, he discovered HUMAN PATH, we saw him using PRETA PATH, remember Madara is one of the most intelligent Ninjas, you think he would CREATE a plan and give Nagato most strongest Dojutsu that no one ever had without knowing what it can do ?

Are we reading the same manga? The SO6P created the Gedo Mazou, not Madara. The SO6P founded and discovered the Human Path not Madara. And finally I can agree on one point, he did use the preta path. He manipulated Nagato to a point where he didn't have any worries, if you read correctly, you could see he was used all along to use the Rinne tensei so Madara would be resurrected.

No, just no, you're just making an assumption. In my eyes Nagato fails hard with Rinnegan in comparisment with Madara.

Again, the irony in you saying I am making assumptions. Nagato does not fail hard compared to Madara, this is only your delusional logic hindering you from understanding the truth. Nagato has shown all 7 path, and sued them effectively. Madara has only used Preta Path, which is not that great of a feat when you possess the greatest donuts, and in your words founded Path's which he cannot even use (which in my mind is absurd).

Please stop trying to counter an argument with fake facts. An encyclopedic cornucopia of incomprehension. You remind me if Itachi fan boys, always thinking of something childish and unreal with their 8 year old imagination.

 

[Frikid]

Well, Edo hashirama have infinite chakra, so we can see 10x of these

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Also do not forget what Edo madara said while he was standing on top of his perfect susano :

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"the only one who can stop me is hashirama"

 

[KidGamer65]

Nope. Hashirama is still superior.

 

[NagazuDead]

Hashirama has his fully dna and sage mode + his strong wood technique ... madara no chance

 

[MrLukyso]

Oh... the irony of you calling me crazy. I would like to nullify nearly every point you put into this argument, and with ease.



This is funny as well, the SO6P did master the Rinnegan to a much higher level then Madara, as Madra has not even shown enough mastery to compare with Nagato. I don't know what rikudos jutsu is since it does not exist. Madara did not teach Obito the rinnegan jutsu's at all, since he did don't even have the rinnegan until after killing Konnan.



Are we reading the same manga? The SO6P created the Gedo Mazou, not Madara. The SO6P founded and discovered the Human Path not Madara. And finally I can agree on one point, he did use the preta path. He manipulated Nagato to a point where he didn't have any worries, if you read correctly, you could see he was used all along to use the Rinne tensei so Madara would be resurrected.



Again, the irony in you saying I am making assumptions. Nagato does not fail hard compared to Madara, this is only your delusional logic hindering you from understanding the truth. Nagato has shown all 7 path, and sued them effectively. Madara has only used Preta Path, which is not that great of a feat when you possess the greatest donuts, and in your words founded Path's which he cannot even use (which in my mind is absurd).

Please stop trying to counter an argument with fake facts. An encyclopedic cornucopia of incomprehension. You remind me if Itachi fan boys, always thinking of something childish and unreal with their 8 year old imagination.

Oh god.. are you taking Sage into this debate ? It is CLEAR that Sage is better than everyone, why would you even put him into a debate ? Madara DISCOVERED a Human Path, Did somebody told him about it ? No which means he discovered it. Rikudous jutsu doesn't exist ? Well why then Madara said to Obito he will teach him Rikudous Jutsu ?.. Jeez what I meant about TEACHING Obito the Rinnegan techs is letting him know it secrets, for example Gedou Mazou, the Human Path which Madara was supposed to be revived.. How do you think Obito knew how to use Rinnegan the second he got it ? A miracle right ?

 

[MrLukyso]

He discovered Human Path....?


He is one of the most intelligent ninjas...?

He makes Nagato fail hard in comparison...?

He taught Obito Rinnegan jutsu without the Rinnegan...?


Oh my god...

1. Yes he did, dude DISCOVERING doesn't mean CREATING. Who told Madara about Rinnegan techniques ? NO ONE, he had to discover them himself, by any means I don't mean he created the Paths..

2. Prove me wrong. He was smart enough to see what would happen with Uchihas, he was smart enough to fool God of Shinobi, he was smart enough to create a Moons eye plan, which leads us to whole Naruto Plot, everything is happening just because Madara planned it.

3. Yes he does.

4. Prove me wrong again, Obito.. the second he got Rinnegan he knew how to use it, it's because Madara told him about its secrets, the Gedou, the Paths, he even told him about the Sage himself. Obito was supposed to know what Nagato must do with Madaras Rinnegan right ?

 

[gazz uzumaki]

Madara might have the upper have but neither of them will win, they're both already dead remember. They can't get tired so they'll just keep fighting and fighting and fighting and.....

Do you see where I'm going with this.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Madara might have the upper have but neither of them will win, they're both already dead remember. They can't get tired so they'll just keep fighting and fighting and fighting and.....

Do you see where I'm going with this.

I see dead people

 

[NarutoIndra]

Oh god.. are you taking Sage into this debate ? It is CLEAR that Sage is better than everyone, why would you even put him into a debate ? Madara DISCOVERED a Human Path, Did somebody told him about it ? No which means he discovered it. Rikudous jutsu doesn't exist ? Well why then Madara said to Obito he will teach him Rikudous Jutsu ?.. Jeez what I meant about TEACHING Obito the Rinnegan techs is letting him know it secrets, for example Gedou Mazou, the Human Path which Madara was supposed to be revived.. How do you think Obito knew how to use Rinnegan the second he got it ? A miracle right ?

I see that you are nearly speechless about the rest of my argument, since there is not much to say when you find out you are incorrect, or plain impudent. Because you technically referred to everyone, and everyone includes the SO6P, so you technically forced it out of me. Madara did not discover the Human path at all, please explain this, since I cannot understand how someone can assume another person discovered something he has not shown yet, in simple words so that your ignorant self can understand; Madara has not shown Human Path yet. Rikudo jutsu is referred to as Rinne Tensei. Again, another assumption, please tell me where it ever has shown in the manga that he taught Obito the secrets of the rinnegan, Gedo, and Human Path (even Madara using the Human Path, which he has not). How do you think Sasuke was capable of using the MS the second he got it, a miracle right? Oh, and Obito did not use it the second he got it, it was weeks until he used it.

 

[adeshina365]

I've been saying that for a while now.

 

[Strict]

Madara can use most of the Mokuton techniques Hashirama could use on top of his EMS abilities. It's also clear that he is able to use the six paths techniques as he was the one who taught them Obito. He of course use them on an even higher level, as he is the true wielder of those eyes, combines Uchiha and Senju powers in his body and has unlimited chakra. Even Obito was seen to use a far better form of the outer-path than Nagato, though latter seemed to have an experience of about 30 years, speaking for the Uchiha being better in handling Dojutsu, at least with the power of Senju on top of that. Currently, Madara represents the power the Rikudo Sennin had, though on a lower level, as he is a true wielder of the Rinnegan, with possession of the power of Uchiha and Senju. The meteorites he spammed from the heavens were just a taste of what someone whose powers are most identical with the sage. Hashirama is a Senju, Madara however is both Uchiha and Senju on the maximum scale, the Rinnegan resulted from.

 

[Smd]

God no..we already got off topic after that we would ruin this thread. we would have more pages about America and its sins than the topic lol...we would be going back and forth for a long time

I just trying to find the best joke I could find. America is clearly a terrorist state. Should I make a list of their deeds? :|

fuk u too america is the shizznet

and to op

edo madara>hashirama

madara=<hashirama

 

[Klue]

Yes, I agree completely.

Madara possesses the power of both Uchiha and Senju, he is a Rikudou.

 

[adeshina365]

Only the S06P is greater than Edo Madara.