Edo Madara vs Hashirama

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Who wins this?

Just curious.​
 

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PS, his , ? (Not Hashirama's best technique)

No counter for Shinsuusenju?

Yeah, Hashirama takes this going by what is clearly shown in the manga.
 

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Madara fans will say madara

Hashi fans will say hashi

I dont like this debate because it never gets anywhere.. U_U
 

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PS, his , ? (Not Hashirama's best technique)

No counter for Shinsuusenju?

Yeah, Hashirama takes this.

I'm not debating here, but Madara's best tech is the meteor, and he can spam them....
 

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Hashirama win's.

Madara's raw power is about the same strength as EMS Madara+Kyuubi. Current Madara doesn't have kyuubi but has wood release and rinnegan tech's to make up for it. But that's about it.
 

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I'm not debating here, but Madara's best tech is the meteor, and he can spam them....

Yeah, I'm not going to get too into this either, but no.

-Meteor is not his best tech going by his words and going by feats.

-Meteor is only .

-PS is nowhere near the Buddha in size. Buddha is larger, by far, and its stronger.

-Meteor gets counter by the Buddha, not to mention Meteor didn't even make a significant crater in the ground when it hit, so it doesn't fall at great enough speeds to say it will go right through the Buddha.

The only way Madara could win this, is by outlasting Hashirama, but that won't work considering after smashing open PS he can drop a Myojinmon on Madara's back preventing him from moving effectively ending this match.
 
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Yeah, I'm not going to get too into this either, but no.

-Meteor is not his best tech going by his words and going by feats.

-Meteor is only .

-PS is nowhere near the Buddha in size. Buddha is larger, by far, and its stronger.

-Meteor gets counter by the Buddha, not to mention Meteor didn't even make a significant crater in the ground when it hit, so it doesn't fall at great enough speeds to say it will go right through the Buddha.

The only way Madara could win this, is by outlasting Hashirama, but that won't work considering after smashing open PS he can drop a Myojinmon on Madara's back preventing him from moving effectively ending this match.

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Hashirama.

Madara in his Edo Form lacks the destructive power of Kurama+PS, and the only threatening technique he can use is Tengai Shinsei which, even if it was able to take out a KILOMETRE TALL AND WIDE MOBILE STATUE, it would be a stalemate for both of them as it makes them regenerate.

Madara also stated his full power is Perfect Susano'o stabilized. It trumps everything he has, but it is promptly taken out by Shinsenjuu.
 

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Hashirama.

Madara in his Edo Form lacks the destructive power of Kurama+PS, and the only threatening technique he can use is Tengai Shinsei which, even if it was able to take out a KILOMETRE TALL AND WIDE MOBILE STATUE, it would be a stalemate for both of them as it makes them regenerate.

Madara also stated his full power is Perfect Susano'o stabilized. It trumps everything he has, but it is promptly taken out by Shinsenjuu.

lol, 20 susano'o clones plus 3 or 4 meteors

GG
 

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lol, 20 susano'o clones plus 3 or 4 meteors

GG

When Madara spams 3 or 4 meteors in conjunction with that, sure.. Spamming is a fallacy when referring to Tengai Shinsei.. No feats of meteor spamming. And 20 Susano'o clones? HAHA. They're fodder to Hashirama. 25 of them were taken out by the combined efforts of the Gokage who are nothing to Hashirama.

Nice try though.
 

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When Madara spams 3 or 4 meteors in conjunction with that, sure.. Spamming is a fallacy when referring to Tengai Shinsei.. No feats of meteor spamming. And 20 Susano'o clones? HAHA. They're fodder to Hashirama. 25 of them were taken out by the combined efforts of the Gokage who are nothing to Hashirama.

Nice try though.
He's spammed two, pretty sure he can do 4 (he wasn't even trying)
Hashirama isn't beating Multiple Meteors+Susano'o clones

o.o
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He's spammed two, pretty sure he can do 4 (he wasn't even trying)
Hashirama isn't beating Multiple Meteors+Susano'o clones

o.o
imo

He hasn't shown feats of doing 4 nor was it ever stated that he was not trying.....
 

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hashirama has absolutely no answers for shared vision, susano clone spam and edo immortality.
shinshinju punches get avoided with rinnegan vision. \

Hashirama win's.
no fuinjutsu feats...

And 20 Susano'o clones? HAHA. They're fodder to Hashirama. 25 of them were taken out by the combined efforts of the Gokage who are nothing to Hashirama
so hashirama can disintegrate on the molecular level? you claim onokis nothing to hashirmaa, yet hashirama stands absolutely no chance of ever countering jinton. its not even POSSIBLE to counter it except with s/t ninjutsu or preta path. and fodder or not, madara can replace any killed ones at will. his real body is unhurtable and invincible anyway. thus limitless clone army.

Madara also stated his full power is Perfect Susano'o stabilized.
IN COMBINATION WITH EVERYTHING ELSE. its not like PS alone beats PS, EMS, mokuton, rinnegan

Spamming is a fallacy when referring to Tengai Shinsei.. No feats of meteor spamming.
what do you mean no feats? so someone has to physically do it before you believe they can do it? ok then i say that deidara cant use 2 C4s in one fight. he's never shown he CAN do so so therefore he cant. thats the kind of bullshit your spouting. madaras immortal. theres no reason he cant spam everything he has. if he kept lobbing meteors his plan is pointless since everyone would be dead including obito.
It trumps everything he has, but it is promptly taken out by Shinsenjuu.
ad then is promptly rebuilt as if nothing happened by an immortal regenerating unlimited stamina zombie

Madara in his Edo Form lacks the destructive power of Kurama+PS,
doesnt need it. he can win this defensively using clone feints, shared vision and susano clone army.
 

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All Madaratards can do is cry "spam" "spam" and use over exaggerated examples of Madara's power due to him being an Edo Tensei zombie to try and say he wins...

lol, 20 susano'o clones plus 3 or 4 meteors

GG

lol? Shinsuusenju effortlessly tanks these meteors and pounds Madara's clones into the ground.

Go throw multiple rocks at a damn wall and tell me what happens. That's like Madara spamming meteor on the Buddha.

hashirama has absolutely no answers for shared vision, susano clone spam and edo immortality.
shinshinju punches get avoided with rinnegan vision. \

This is why I can't take some people seriously. Go learn how shared vision works pal. It only works with Outer Path and Rinnegan summons. Madara has neither so its useless. Its stupid that you think Shared Vision will let him evade punches that had enough AoE to create the whole VoTE. lmao. Madaratards are hilarious.


no fuinjutsu feats...
Drops a gate on him and calls it a day.

so hashirama can disintegrate on the molecular level? you claim onokis nothing to hashirmaa, yet hashirama stands absolutely no chance of ever countering jinton. its not even POSSIBLE to counter it except with s/t ninjutsu or preta path. and fodder or not, madara can replace any killed ones at will. his real body is unhurtable and invincible anyway. thus limitless clone army.
You still coming here with this limitless clone army fanfiction bullshit? Manga has already proved that this nonsense is impossible. I'm not surprised since you believe Madara can make clones and use PS with all of them, lmao hop off.

IN COMBINATION WITH EVERYTHING ELSE. its not like PS alone beats PS, EMS, mokuton, rinnegan
-No Rinnegan?

-Fodder Mokuton?

-EMS is the same as PS in this case as Madara's other two techniques are unknown.

what do you mean no feats? so someone has to physically do it before you believe they can do it? ok then i say that deidara cant use 2 C4s in one fight. he's never shown he CAN do so so therefore he cant. thats the kind of bullshit your spouting. madaras immortal. theres no reason he cant spam everything he has. if he kept lobbing meteors his plan is pointless since everyone would be dead including obito.
ad then is promptly rebuilt as if nothing happened by an immortal regenerating unlimited stamina zombie
Immortal=/=Bigger chakra reserves. Edo Kage already proved this when they could only use a limited amount of clones when the barrier was up.




doesnt need it. he can win this defensively using clone feints, shared vision and susano clone army.

Clone feints?

Shared Vision? (That won't even work here)

Susanoo clone army? (fanfiction)
 
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I hate this matchup, may be one of the most boring

Hashi wins clearly
 

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Madara wins handily given his strong counters to Hashirama's Mokuton.
 

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All Madaratards can do is cry "spam" "spam" and use over exaggerated examples of Madara's power due to him being an Edo Tensei zombie to try and say he wins...



lol? Shinsuusenju effortlessly tanks these meteors and pounds Madara's clones into the ground.

Go throw multiple rocks at a damn wall and tell me what happens. That's like Madara spamming meteor on the Buddha.



This is why I can't take some people seriously. Go learn how shared vision works pal. It only works with Outer Path and Rinnegan summons. Madara has neither so its useless. Its stupid that you think Shared Vision will let him evade punches that had enough AoE to create the whole VoTE. lmao. Madaratards are hilarious.



Drops a gate on him and calls it a day.


You still coming here with this limitless clone army fanfiction bullshit? Manga has already proved that this nonsense is impossible. I'm not surprised since you believe Madara can make clones and use PS with all of them, lmao hop off.


-No Rinnegan?

-Fodder Mokuton?

-EMS is the same as PS in this case as Madara's other two techniques are unknown.


Immortal=/=Bigger chakra reserves. Edo Kage already proved this when they could only use a limited amount of clones when the barrier was up.






Clone feints?

Shared Vision? (That won't even work here)

Susanoo clone army? (fanfiction)

Don't know if srs.

And If Madara has sage mode, it's not up for debate.
 

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Don't know if srs.

And If Madara has sage mode, it's not up for debate.

That is my reaction to you. Not sure if serious. All you tards do is cry about how he spams shit. lmfao, irrelevant shit to be precise.

Madara doesn't have SM nor is he going to get SM. We already know it takes a while to master Natural Energy in order to enter Sage Mode. I hope you aren't telling me Madara is going to do this in way less than 15 minutes.

He is going to use Hashirama's Senjutsu chakra to control Obito via the chakra rod most likely, or maybe he'll fight him, though the latter seems like a very stupid plan.
 
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