Edo madara vs bm minato
Both have sealing tags
Location:juubi vs SA
Intel:full
Restrictions :RDS
Distance:70 meters
Who wins
Both have sealing tags
Location:juubi vs SA
Intel:full
Restrictions :RDS
Distance:70 meters
Who wins
What time limit? Minato was shown to have no such limit. Minato is Edo, so him exhausting his BM isn't even a factor. Same way Madara can probably maintain his Susanoo forever if he wanted to because he's an Edo, alive Madara would never be able to.Madara wins this
--He can use his PS to match the kurama avatar alongside his mokuton variants to restrain his kurama avatar, as he can also use hisYou must be registered for see links, and can also put minato on the defense through his PS slashes
--With the magnitude of this battle, all the marked locations would be destroyed completely, as the AOE of PS, Kurama Avatar and MOkuton variants would bypass the limits of minatos FTG thus making him unable to evade madaras attacks
--Rasengan Variants are effortlessly tanked or can be absorbed by preta, and even if minato manages to destroy PS, Madara can use his mokutons to catch/redirect the TBB or can also use his preta to absorb atleast one attack
--Minato having the time limit on his BM hurts him here, as Madara can match him perfectly whilst he's in BM, however once minato falls down to KCM or Base, then he's simply getting bisected by PS slashes,
R..I..P brain cells and logic.What time limit? Minato was shown to have no such limit. Minato is Edo, so him exhausting his BM isn't even a factor. Same way Madara can probably maintain his Susanoo forever if he wanted to because he's an Edo, alive Madara would never be able to.
And wood release cannot restrain minato because he can teleport out of any constructs at any time.
Only wood golem has the ability to catch tailed beast bombs, which Madara doesn't have as far as I know. Nor is he redirecting tbb with wood release. Hashirama needed quintuple rashomon just to change the trajectory of 1. Plus adding senjutsu into his tbb would be quite devastating.
Marked locations don't matter, considering minato can easily just remark locations after they're destroyed. Or send clones to spread more kunai/mark more locations. By doing this, the clones can reach further locations from the battlefield where Madara cannot reach.
Ps slashes putting minato on the defensive? Yeah ok, same can be said about tbb barrage.
This.... Imho Madara would win with the ease as if he's fighting an infant....madara lol
He'll have to catch Minatos catch Minatos clones first, and Minatos clones in KCM will be faster. And considering the location, dropping kunai into the ocean won't be a problem. This allows minato to teleport Madara to the bottom of the sea, and send most of his attacks there. It also acts as an escape option if needed be.R..I..P brain cells and logic.
Where is he going to teleport to? All his Kunai gets raped up in mokuton and smothered underground. No need to catch Bijuudama's when you can simple cut them or blow them away with Shockwaves. @BOLD- I guess you thought he was Naruto lmao. Madara sends his clones to counter Minato clones. He marks the ground with his hand seal gtf raps it up and no more teleporting Minato. He tries to mark ftg outside the battlefield Ps shockwaves burry his kunai 300ft under debris. Bijuudama barrage is intercepted by shockwaves or blown back via Gedo Mazo roar or simple tanked.
Being an edo has got nothing to do with the time limit of using BM,What time limit? Minato was shown to have no such limit. Minato is Edo, so him exhausting his BM isn't even a factor. Same way Madara can probably maintain his Susanoo forever if he wanted to because he's an Edo, alive Madara would never be able to.
Where would Minato teleport to?And wood release cannot restrain minato because he can teleport out of any constructs at any time.
Madara recieved all the base hashiramas mokutons, why cant he use the wood golem then??Only wood golem has the ability to catch tailed beast bombs, which Madara doesn't have as far as I know. Nor is he redirecting tbb with wood release. Hashirama needed quintuple rashomon just to change the trajectory of 1. Plus adding senjutsu into his tbb would be quite devastating.
Yeah because madara would just stand there and let minato place more markings LolMarked locations don't matter, considering minato can easily just remark locations after they're destroyed. Or send clones to spread more kunai/mark more locations. By doing this, the clones can reach further locations from the battlefield where Madara cannot reach.
Yes, PS slashes are putting minato on the defensive, especially when they are used alongside mokutons which can restrain his charka, therefore TBB barrages are not happening that easilyPs slashes putting minato on the defensive? Yeah ok, same can be said about tbb barrage.
Not really when Ps slashes can intercept them. Dropping Kunai into the ocean lol how is that going to help him if he teleports himself to the bottom of the ocean where the water pressure is to much and it's dark.He'll have to catch Minatos catch Minatos clones first, and Minatos clones in KCM will be faster. And considering the location, dropping kunai into the ocean won't be a problem. This allows minato to teleport Madara to the bottom of the sea, and send most of his attacks there. It also acts as an escape option if needed be.
Did he have to? Show me a scan of Minato saying he can drop Kunai to the bottom of the ocean? Don't need to because it common sense right? Ps shockwaves will act like Juubi lazer with all the force coming towards the incoming tbb will cause them to explode.Shock waves intercepting tbb? Lol ok, show me where Madara said his shock waves >='tbb.
It was a problem for Naruto who is a Sage mode master. Minato sm skills are worst than Jiraiya's. Plus he can't even keep senjutsu up for long at all. L0l you did you really just say shockwaves don't travel far?Adding senjutsu is not a problem. Kurama avatar increases the speed of gathering senjutsu. So I don't know why you're laughing, he's already seen Naruto do it and yin Kurama does everything that yang Kurama can do. Unless you can prove why minato can't do this when he has all the abilities and tools necessary, then I suggest you be quiet.
You people overestimating ps shock waves lol. Minato shunshin'd to the battlefield from konoha in just 1 or 2 chapters. Unless ps shock waves can follow Minatos clones that far. Especially in KCM which enhance his speed, then I suggest this argument be out to rest.
Minato never said his link wasn't perfect nor did he ever say he had a time limit nor is there any proof that he has a time limit. That was Narutos issues, not his. Minato used KCM as soon as he got to the battlefield and didn't deactivate it once, until Naruto leeched the rest of his chakra from Minatos yin half. Twice the yang half begged Minatos half for chakra, minato and yin Kurama never even hinted or suggested they had such issues. You said Mintos link isn't perfected, well then show me where minato or him Kurama said that, otherwise don't even bring it up again.
Being an edo has got nothing to do with the time limit of using BM,
You must be registered for see linksMinatos link with kurama isnt perfected yet seeing how he only used BM once in the manga,
so at most his limit is 8 minutes,
furthermore Edos still have a limit to their chakra, the only difference is that their chakra is restored therefore they never run out,
Where would Minato teleport to?
if he resorts to using TBBs whilst madara uses PS, the onlsaught would be far too great and the entire landscape would be destroyed thus bypassing the limits of FTG
Madara recieved all the base hashiramas mokutons, why cant he use the wood golem then??
Mokuton Hotei arms can also be used to catch the TBB and throw towards Minato,
and the rashomons example is irrelevant since they were used to deflect aYou must be registered for see linkswhich has different properties to a normal TBB, whilst the bold is pure fanfic since BSM Minato doesnt exist,,
not to mention that itYou must be registered for see linksas using something as large as TBB would take him an eternity
Yeah because madara would just stand there and let minato place more markings Lol
with the marked location being destroyed and the AOE of FTG being bypassed, not only are his clones useless since they wont be in their kurama avatar, but they would also be unable to evade the attacks, and are getting one-shotted by a PS slash,
furthermore minato simply cant afford to prolong this battle otherwise he is running out of his BM due to his link not being perfected, due to him only using BM once in the manga,
and once he falls to base/KCM then he is done for,
Yes, PS slashes are putting minato on the defensive, especially when they are used alongside mokutons which can restrain his charka, therefore TBB barrages are not happening that easily
You said the shockwaves didn't have range i showed you how far they go out. Did Madara even swing his blade at the 5kage nope.Minato never said his link wasn't perfect nor did he ever say he had a time limit nor is there any proof that he has a time limit. That was Narutos issues, not his. Minato used KCM as soon as he got to the battlefield and didn't deactivate it once, until Naruto leeched the rest of his chakra from Minatos yin half. Twice the yang half begged Minatos half for chakra, minato and yin Kurama never even hinted or suggested they had such issues. You said Mintos link isn't perfected, well then show me where minato or him Kurama said that, otherwise don't even bring it up again.
I already said KCM clones easily spread more kunai outside the battlefield. As well as there being an entire ocean that minato can toss his kunai into the bottom of and onto the sea rocks. His clones can set up marking in mount myoboku in the mountain sides for other escape routes if needed.
Golem is like Hashirama's most durable base constructs. Even wood dragon that can absorb chakra cannot handle small tailed beast bombs. I have no reason to beleive hotei can catch and throw back tbbs. Ps sword easily cut and destroyed them, they aren't as durable as the wood golem. Golem is his strongest most durable wood construct, and it's only feat is catching a small sized tbb. Jin Kurama has performed tbb on completey different scales to that small weak version.
BSM doesn't need to exist. He has BM and he has sm, Naruto showed the ability to combine both as long as Kurama allows it. Minato also witnessed Naruto do it. And stop adding your own words to what kishi said. Minato never said "far" too long. He only said too long, not sure why you're trying to make it sound worse that what it is. Kurama avatar has already shown the ability to increase senjutsu gathering, so it isn't much of an issue. Nothing is preventing minato from pullin off such feat, it's no fanfic, it's just common sense. Same way you are giving Madara wood golem, hotei and all that crap. That too is fan fic then just because we didn't see it. Adding senjutsu to something isn't the same as gathering senjutsu, so stop exaggerating. An eternity my ass!
It only takes minato a second to mark the ground, a rock, a tree or whatever. Madara may not even see or notice it, in fact all the people minato has marked never even notice it. The area can be destroyed repeatedly, it doesn't stop minato from remarking over and over, it just requires a simple 1 second touch, something his clones can easily do.
And those one sided arguments people always use. Slashes putting minato on the defensive, therefore he can't easily use tbbs lol. Why can't it be the other way around, just cuz u say so? What if minato puts Madara on the defensive with tbb barrage and constricts his movements with chakra arms? I can say the same thing. Oh and wood restraints aren't containing minato ever, nor will they absorb his chakra due to FTG.
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Yeah I'm not gonna argue with someone who thinks Minatos sm is inferior to an imperfect sage. Or someone who thinks nearby mountain ranged are the same distance as different countries.
And you guys are making me laugh with these ps shock wave crap. Madara's ps shock wave wasn't even enough to injure the 5 Kage, all it did is blow them away a few meters. Yet you're comparing it to a tbb. 1 small tbb would easily take out every one of the 5 Kage at once.