Edo Madara vs Edo Itachi (taijutsu only)

[The Messiah]

Location: Uchiha hideout
Distance: 6.3 yards
Conditions: This is strictly taijutsu. They both have 3t activated. This is the same Madara that wrecked the SA.

Restrictions: Weapons, ninjutsu, MS, EMS, and rinnegan.

 

[Holy God]

As Uchiha their difference in skill/Sharingan will probably be negligible, but since Madara carries the benefits of Hagoromo's genetics, he is probably physically superior in all aspects.

 

[The Messiah]

As Uchiha their difference in skill/Sharingan will probably be negligible, but since Madara carries the benefits of Hagoromo's genetics, he is probably physically superior in all aspects.

Oh yeah I didn't take into account Hashirama's cells. Itachi has better taijutsu feats though.

 

[KidGamer65]

Madara wins comfortably. Far faster, far stronger, better reflexes, most likely just as skilled if not better.

 

[Kingu]

What Madara did to the shinobi alliance was illegal.

 

[The Messiah]

Madara wins comfortably. Far faster, far stronger, better reflexes, most likely just as skilled if not better.

Comfortably ? I feel like this could be little interesting with feats edo Itachi showed against Bee and Naruto.

 

[KidGamer65]

Comfortably ? I feel like this could be little interesting with feats edo Itachi showed against Bee and Naruto.

Nope. The gap in their skill isn't large enough to bridge the gap between their physical abilities.

 

[Frois]

Madara wins.

 

[The Messiah]

Nope. The gap in their skill isn't large enough to bridge the gap between their physical abilities.

How big is the gap between them in physical ability ? Madara seems faster and physically stronger but it doesn't seem like it's by a wide margin.

 

[KidGamer65]

How big is the gap between them in physical ability ? Madara seems faster and physically stronger but it doesn't seem like it's by a wide margin.

-Madara can block Ay's physical strikes.
-Madara can almost blitz SM Naruto and overpower his guard.
-Madara is easily faster than the Sasuke who surpasses KCM Naruto in reaction speed, who also surpasses Itachi.

The gap is large. Itachi has no feats that match these.

 

[Frois]

-Madara can block Ay's physical strikes.
-Madara can almost blitz SM Naruto and overpower his guard.
-Madara is easily faster than the Sasuke who surpasses KCM Naruto in reaction speed, who also surpasses Itachi.

The gap is large. Itachi has no feats that match these.

I agree that Madara wins, but do you have scans for all of these? The only instance I recall Madara blocking Ay's strikes was in ribcage

 

[The Messiah]

-Madara can block Ay's physical strikes.
-Madara can almost blitz SM Naruto and overpower his guard.
-Madara is easily faster than the Sasuke who surpasses KCM Naruto in reaction speed, who also surpasses Itachi.

The gap is large. Itachi has no feats that match these.

Oh yea I forgot about him blocking Ay's strike.

I was talking Madara before he absorbed senjutsu chakra from Hashirama. The Ay feat is quite impressive though so I guess Madara would win comfortably.

 

[KidGamer65]

I agree that Madara wins, but do you have scans for all of these? The only instance I recall Madara blocking Ay's strikes was in ribcage

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Now for that second scan, Madara has Sage Mode, but as Naruto and Sasuke have shown us EMS and Sage Mode's precognition are equal and Madara was blind so his only form. So take away Madara's SM and give him EMS/Rinnegan and the result remains the same. That is the gap in speed between Madara and Sasuke if not even larger since a Blind Sage Sensor shouldn't be faster than someone w/ equal precognition via actual eyesight and a less powerful sensing ability.

And blocking Ay's top speed like that also makes him faster than Sasuke.

Oh yea I forgot about him blocking Ay's strike.

I was talking Madara before he absorbed senjutsu chakra from Hashirama. The Ay feat is quite impressive though so I guess Madara would win comfortably.

None of these feats are feats SM Madara has done or feats that Edo Madara can't replicate.

 

[The Messiah]

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Now for that second scan, Madara has Sage Mode, but as Naruto and Sasuke have shown us EMS and Sage Mode's precognition are equal and Madara was blind so his only form. So take away Madara's SM and give him EMS/Rinnegan and the result remains the same. That is the gap in speed between Madara and Sasuke if not even larger since a Blind Sage Sensor shouldn't be faster than someone w/ equal precognition via actual eyesight and a less powerful sensing ability.

And blocking Ay's top speed like that also makes him faster than Sasuke.



None of these feats are feats SM Madara has done or feats that Edo Madara can't replicate.

Ok I guess you're right about the physical attributes and I had Madara winning too I just didn't realize the huge gap in physical abilities. At the bold, I restricted MS. Regardless I still agree that he wins because of better physical feats.

 

[Dizzldot]

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Now for that second scan, Madara has Sage Mode, but as Naruto and Sasuke have shown us EMS and Sage Mode's precognition are equal and Madara was blind so his only form. So take away Madara's SM and give him EMS/Rinnegan and the result remains the same. That is the gap in speed between Madara and Sasuke if not even larger since a Blind Sage Sensor shouldn't be faster than someone w/ equal precognition via actual eyesight and a less powerful sensing ability.

And blocking Ay's top speed like that also makes him faster than Sasuke.



None of these feats are feats SM Madara has done or feats that Edo Madara can't replicate.

The scans you posted were of alive madara and I thought edo decreases your true power level by a considerable margin no?
I do agree madara takes this itachi is strong but not madara

 

[KidGamer65]

The scans you posted were of alive madara and I thought edo decreases your true power level by a considerable margin no?
I do agree madara takes this itachi is strong but not madara

True power as in overall power. Nothing indicates that his physical abilities were gimped.

 

[Anbu Knights]

Being superior in pretty much every aspect means Madara will snap Itachi's neck. Scans supporting that Madara takes this without too much effort were already provided.

 

[Dizzldot]

True power as in overall power. Nothing indicates that his physical abilities were gimped.

I was saying it because I was under the impression he used physical strength to break out of the gates hashi placed him in which would be a drastic increase in power

 

[KidGamer65]

I was saying it because I was under the impression he used physical strength to break out of the gates hashi placed him in which would be a drastic increase in power

Yeah, Madara after being drained by Wood Dragon, so that comparison doesn't work.

 

[Dizzldot]

Yeah, Madara after being drained by Wood Dragon, so that comparison doesn't work.

Hashi stated the wood dragon's drainage was cancelled out by the rinnegans? IDK the scan words it terribly saying his chakra is being drained so his chakra draining techs wont work so wtf does that mean lol