EDO madara VS EDO hashirama

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Madara mid-difficulty.

-None of Mokuton attacks really harm him, he just regenerates.

-Madara can use Mokuton to stalemate another, while he creates two Mokuton Bunshin's for one to use Rinnegan and another Susano'o.

-Madara uses Deva Path to pull him, stabs with rods and proceeds to absorb his soul. Any kind of outer harm will be dealed by Susano'o.

-Hashirama also has no means to win this battle since he has no sealing jutsu. Eventually Hashirama will fall.​
 

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Madara mid-difficulty.

-None of Mokuton attacks really harm him, he just regenerates.

-Madara can use Mokuton to stalemate another, while he creates two Mokuton Bunshin's for one to use Rinnegan and another Susano'o.

-Madara uses Deva Path to pull him, stabs with rods and proceeds to absorb his soul. Any kind of outer harm will be dealed by Susano'o.

-Hashirama also has no means to win this battle since he has no sealing jutsu. Eventually Hashirama will fall.​
We already saw them fight in canon pal. Pretty much everything you posted here is fanfiction.

Its a shitty argument nonetheless.
 

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Hashirama already won.

Madara past his prime with the rinnegan and senju DNA still lost to Edo hashirama not at full power.

Goes to show that hashirama is quite formidable.
 

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Didn't Hashirama already neutralize Madara...?
No. All he did was hold madara down for a few seconds.

Edo madara stabs SM hashirama with rods and beats him back down to base... but people want to believe an exhausted, injured, base hashirama was somehow remotely going to win that battle. I don't even...
 

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Edo Hashirama wins this,,,,

-Edo madara himself stated that PS was his full power,,, so him having fake rinnegan along with base mokuton techniques still dont matter when he's up against SS,,,

-SS defeated PS along with FULL kurama,, so i really dont see how PS alone with stand up against it

-Hashiramas Mokujin was fighting on par with Madaras PS,, and managed to restrain madara as Hashiramas techniques rendered pretas abilities useless

-I dont see whats more to debate here,, since Hashirama canonicallly won
 

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We already saw them fight in canon pal. Pretty much everything you posted here is fanfiction.

Its a shitty argument nonetheless.
Madara and Hashirama appeared only at first fighting with Mokuryū and Susano'o. After that, it was offpanel.

-Hashirama got help from SM Naruto, who attacked with Chō Ōdama Rasenshuriken and then proceeded to immoblizie with gates.

-Madara stated that he was waiting for the real opportunity, indicating he may have not used his full power yet.

-Hashirama has nothing over Madara's arsenal except Shin Sūsenju, that is useless against Edo Tensei corpse.

You're just talking about offpanel fight, with hype Hashirama wins by feats Madara wins at most mid-difficulty. You don't even know if Hashirama was fighting alone.​
 

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Madara and Hashirama appeared only at first fighting with Mokuryū and Susano'o. After that, it was offpanel.


Alright.

-Hashirama got help from SM Naruto, who attacked with Chō Ōdama Rasenshuriken and then proceeded to immoblizie with gates.
Mokuryu had already bound him and he couldn't move, meaning he lost. The only reason Naruto came in is because they needed to seal him, which isn't need here.

-Madara stated that he was waiting for the real opportunity, indicating he may have not used his full power yet.
Speculation.

-Hashirama has nothing over Madara's arsenal except Shin Sūsenju, that is useless against Edo Tensei corpse.
Shinsuusenju pounds him and Mokuryu binds him.

You're just talking about offpanel fight, with hype Hashirama wins by feats Madara wins at most mid-difficulty. You don't even know if Hashirama was fighting alone.
-Nothing implies he got help.
 

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Mokuryu had already bound him and he couldn't move, meaning he lost. The only reason Naruto came in is because they needed to seal him, which isn't need here.
Do you really think Madara will just stand there?

1. You don't know how he got in that position.
2. It can be countered with same jutsu, as well as same applies to Hashirama.

As I said previously, Madara and Hashirama appeared only at first fighting with Mokuryū and Susano'o. After that, it was offpanel. After that again, magically Madara is tied up with Mokuryū.​

Mokuryu had already bound him and he couldn't move, meaning he lost. The only reason Naruto came in is because they needed to seal him, which isn't need here.
Firstly, he never lost. There's two restrictions Mokuryū caused; mobility and absorbing [ ]. There's nothing indicating that he cannot merge with the Mokuton he's bind on.​

Shinsuusenju pounds him and Mokuryu binds him.
And what stops him from using his Rinnegan powers for levitation and further attack?​

Nothing implies he got help.
Without Naruto, he never would've gotten the opportunity to lock him with gates.​
 

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Do you really think Madara will just stand there?

1. You don't know how he got in that position.​


Hashirama forced him in that position.


2. It can be countered with same jutsu, as well as same applies to Hashirama.
If he could have prevented himself from ending up in the Mokuryu, he wouldn't have been bound.


Firstly, he never lost. There's two restrictions Mokuryū caused; mobility and absorbing [ ]. There's nothing indicating that he cannot merge with the Mokuton he's bind on.​
The fact that he didn't do it once bound means that he couldn't do it, as he could not escape. I don't know why you are trying to dispute canon but its getting kind of old.



And what stops him from using his Rinnegan powers for levitation and further attack?​
The fact that levitation isn't flight, and the fact its slow while Shinsuusenju's attacks aren't means he gets pasted. The fact he can't produce an attack to match the output or counter Shinsuusenju's barrage means he gets pasted.


Without Naruto, he never would've gotten the opportunity to lock him with gates.​
Mokuryu had him bound completely. Gates are irrelevant.​
 
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