Edo Madara vs. 1st Hokage..

[JacknOph]

Okay now i've been having this argument with a friend for awhile now. Edo Madara with the 1st Hokages cells, but none of Kabuto's other upgrades. Against the first in his prime. I say Madara.

 

[Migualon J.J.]

not sure about this, but isn't kabuto's only upgrade on madara hashirama's cells?

 

[ShadowAnimal11]

Um no. If Hashirama beat him once he can do it again. And it would be all the easier without the nine tails. Without Kabuto's upgrades it would be the same fight. Hasirama would seal him.
Hasirama mid-high dif.

 

[Ngylle]

Edo madara is an Edo, so first will die.

 

[JacknOph]

not sure about this, but isn't kabuto's only upgrade on madara hashirama's cells?

I wasn't too sure either my friend says that his chakra capacity was upgraded too. I haven't gone back to look it up so I just believed him.

 

[The Necromancer]

I wasn't too sure either my friend says that his chakra capacity was upgraded too. I haven't gone back to look it up so I just believed him.

It's a common debate as to what kabuto did. Madara and tobi both claim that madara fought the first to gain his powers which he did before he died, and before he gained the rinnegan. However it seemed to be a surprise to madara that hashirama's face was on his chest, suggesting that he didn't have control of the cells in the first place. My thought is that he gained his cells in order to awaken the rinnegan but not to control the mokuton, and with kabuto's upgrade he was able to use the mokuton as well.

 

[hatake89]

chuck norris comes in and uses his super roundhouse and beats em both (x

 

[Hipster Madara]

Madara will win but stuff to keep in mind:
Hashirama doesn't have to go for the kill, he just has to hold Madara down long enough to seal him which he could do with wood release. (im assuming he can seal but idk)
Also he knows Madara's moves so...
On the other hand, Madara can kill him and regenerate (meteor jutsu) so he will win.
Madara is wayy to op at this moment.
i would like to see edo vs edo so they can just spam and spam these huge jutsus all day xd

 

[Ngylle]

if i take what i know about both the first hokage will die for sure.
it will be the same battle he had with him before + edo lol

 

[TheSages456]

madara is the clear winner but it wont be easy for him.

 

[Prince of Persia TTT]

Edo madara can F**K hashirama
he can create mokutun clones with susano+moku
imo 10 clones will be enough for hashirama

 

[hatakii kakashii]

madara is too much op for anyone excluding so6p

 

[Red Slayer]

Edo Madara=EMS Madara(who fought Hashirama)+RInengan+Immortal Body+Hashirama

 

[obscoral]

dafoq dude

edo madara stomps like hell

 

[home]

edo madara has all of the 1st power plus his own soo im pretty sure he'll win

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

If Hashirama beat him once he can do it again.

no he cant. he stands absolutely no chance here

Without Kabuto's upgrades it would be the same fight. Hasirama would seal him

madara corrected kabuto saying he didnt create this power. its still madaras power and the power he stole from hashirama. and hashirama has never ever shown any sealing jutsu of any kind

 

[kiiroi senk0u]

hashirama