EDO Madara takes the gauntlet

[BenjerminGaye]

He obviously doesn't have all of Hashirama's techs, as Perfect Susanoo is still his full power. Not whatever Hashirama used to defeat Perfect Susanoo. And his Preta Path and meteors pail in comparison to his Perfect Susanoo, which in turn still loses to Hashirama like it did in the past. IDC if he's the second Sage or whatever, because he only has "a fraction" of his power.

i never said all.It's illogical for him to lose he has all the cards we don't even know how strong ps is... and to top it off he has the rennigan the rennigan god damit. if he does its only cuz he dickrides hashirama.... and plot..... its not fair...... thats like sm kabuto's loss to itachi.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Madara says it, so I believe it.

Because he is the biggest Hashi fan in narutoverse. This not means he can defeat him, this means Madara thinks he can defeat him.

 

[2big]

You said he would use it at last ressort, didn't you? Furthermore, Kakashi kamui'd a tailed beast. Kamuing PS doesn't seem to be impossible. Obito doesn't need to warp PS(but if he want i'm sure he can since he has even more chakra than kakashi), he can simply walk thru Madara and warp him as if Susanoo wasn't even existing because of his intangibility(when he phases thru another dimension) which makes him untouchable even by someone thousand times faster than Madara like Naruto

thats why minato rasangoned him right cuz he is untouchable

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

thats why minato rasangoned him right cuz he is untouchable

By fodders. But Edo Madara would kick his ass.

 

[2big]

By fodders. But Edo Madara would kick his ass.

exactly edo madera is on a whole different level than everyone else

 

[UchihaInza]

no one can stop lord madara xd Uchiha Inza

 

[TobisPawn]

i never said all.It's illogical for him to lose he has all the cards we don't even know how strong ps is... and to top it off he has the rennigan the rennigan god damit. if he does its only cuz he dickrides hashirama.... and plot..... its not fair...... thats like sm kabuto's loss to itachi.

He doesn't have all the cards though. Well, not all the cards needed to defeat Hashirama. His Edo powerups don't reach the level of PS, and Hashirama defeated PS. It's simple. Hell, I could say that Kurama evens out the new powerups Madara has.

 

[Strict]

He doesn't have all the cards though. Well, not all the cards needed to defeat Hashirama. His Edo powerups don't reach the level of PS, and Hashirama defeated PS. It's simple. Hell, I could say that Kurama evens out the new powerups Madara has.

That doesn't matter, though. The perfect Susanoo is Madaras strongest technique, but the Rinnegan and Mokuton still expand Madaras arsenal with powerful techniques which have to be dealt with, on top he is an immortal with limitless chakra, which means in other words, that he can use his strongest techniques without any loss of Chakra and renders all damage which is given to him ineffective. The mere fact that he's an immortal with limitless chakra now puts him above his prime, where he fought Hashirama in a fight to death.

 

[TheSages456]

That doesn't matter, though. The perfect Susanoo is Madaras strongest technique, but the Rinnegan and Mokuton still expand Madaras arsenal with powerful techniques which have to be dealt with, on top he is an immortal with limitless chakra, which means in other words, that he can use his strongest techniques without any loss of Chakra and renders all damage which is given to him ineffective. The mere fact that he's an immortal with limitless chakra now puts him above his prime, where he fought Hashirama in a fight to death.

his full power failed against hashirama so weaker techs obviously wont get the job done. just get over it because this is exactly what the manga implies and when characters talk about current madara, they make no distinction between him and VOTE madara. why? because clearly hashirama can beat madara and his full power is the same as it was years ago. when madara pulls out PS tsunade says that she cant believe that hashirama beat madara even though madara had all the buffs. why did she say this? because his full power is static and didnt change from his fight with hashirama. she didnt make up BS excuses and claim that madara is wrong like you are doing. she didnt say "oh but your edo and have the rinnegan and his mokuton so stop being stupid madara". his full power is the same from VOTE and hashiramas full power surpasses that therefore hashirama>edo madara.

your only saying that edo madara>hashirama because you people use ABC logic to compare how he would do against ems madara. everyone knows that edo madara>ems madara. ems madara with perfect susano effortlessly crushes an edo madara who isnt allowed to use perfect susano though. hashirama>edo madara since madaras full power is the same as it was at VOTE and this is what the manga implies. take this up with kishimoto not anyone else with sense.