Edo Madara or Obito?

Djokovic · Sep 17, 2012

KidGamer65 said:
Not like stamina-wise, like wear his offense down until its destroyed, like his Susanoo,

Perfect Susano is based on his chakra. How do you destroy something that has infinite chakra?

KidGamer65 · Sep 17, 2012

Djokovic said:
Perfect Susano is based on his chakra. How do you destroy something that has infinite chakra?

Perfect Susanoo is a manifestation of his chakra, it can still be broken, he just has to put it back up, and when that happens Tobi can use Human Path.

Djokovic · Sep 17, 2012

KidGamer65 said:
Perfect Susanoo is a manifestation of his chakra, it can still be broken, he just has to put it back up, and when that happens Tobi can use Human Path.

It can be broken and rebuild within a second. Now how will Obito break it? Keep in mind Madara has mokuton to tame the tailed beasts and tons of clones who can use the same abilities.

KidGamer65 · Sep 17, 2012

Djokovic said:
It can be broken and rebuild within a second. Now how will Obito break it? Keep in mind Madara has mokuton to tame the tailed beasts.

Madara can't go from no Susanoo to Perfect Susanoo in one second. Obito can burn the Mokuton off the Bijuu with his Katon: Bakufu Rambu, and then the Bijuu can use Bijuu Dama to smash Perfect Susanoo.

Djokovic · Sep 17, 2012

KidGamer65 said:
Madara can't go from no Susanoo to Perfect Susanoo in one second. Obito can burn the Mokuton off the Bijuu with his Katon: Bakufu Rambu, and then the Bijuu can use Bijuu Dama to smash Perfect Susanoo.

Yes it does take a second or 2 to build PS. Are we reading the same manga? Only Madara can burn the whole forest as shown in the manga. Obito's katon doesnt even come close. And if Obito decides to come out he will be paralyzed by the flower tree world, so he has no option but to hide.
Using Bijuu dama gives Madara a few seconds to attack them.

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KidGamer65 · Sep 17, 2012

Djokovic said:
Yes it does take a second or 2 to build PS. Are we reading the same manga? Only Madara can burn the whole forest as shown in the manga. Obito's katon doesnt even come close. And if Obito decides to come out he will be paralyzed by the flower tree world, so he has no option but to hide.
Using Bijuu dama gives Madara a few seconds to attack them.

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He doesn't have to burn the whole forest down, he just has to burn the parts that ensnare the Jinchuuriki.

Gedo Mazo can take care of the rest of the trees.

And even if he defeats the jinchuuriki he has no counter to Obito's S/T Jutsu.

XxSageoftheSixpathsIIXx · Sep 17, 2012

edo madara obvi

Djokovic · Sep 17, 2012

KidGamer65 said:
He doesn't have to burn the whole forest down, he just has to burn the parts that ensnare the Jinchuuriki.

Gedo Mazo can take care of the rest of the trees.

And even if he defeats the jinchuuriki he has no counter to Obito's S/T Jutsu.

Burning down teh wood, will also hurt the Jinchuuriki. Let's say he frees one of the Jinchuuriki, he still has 6 to go, in the meantime the other get captured again. Madara performs his jutus within seconds. I havent even mentioned the clones.
Obito has nothing on Madara.
He can only hide and hope Madara dies out of boredom.

KidGamer65 · Sep 17, 2012

Djokovic said:
Burning down teh wood, will also hurt the Jinchuuriki. Let's say he frees one of the Jinchuuriki, he still has 6 to go, in the meantime the other get captured again. Madara performs his jutus within seconds. I havent even mentioned the clones.
Obito has nothing on Madara.
He can only hide and hope Madara dies out of boredom.

You still never said how he counter Obito's S/T Jutsu.

And the Jinchuuriki are Edos so hurting them doesn't matter. They also retain their abilties from when they were alive, Roshi's Lava Release can also burn down Mokuton, and his Lava Release Armor will stop it from entangling him.

Utakata has his Corrosive Gas to handle Mokuton.

They won't get caught easily either, they have the Sharingan so that means they also have Sharingan precog and Rinnegan shared field of vision to evade Mokuton

MrLukyso · Sep 17, 2012

-Jiraiya- said:
Edo Madara is be(a)st..

That's all we need to know.

Madara.

Djokovic · Sep 17, 2012

KidGamer65 said:
You still never said how he counter Obito's S/T Jutsu.

And the Jinchuuriki are Edos so hurting them doesn't matter. They also retain their abilties from when they were alive, Roshi's Lava Release can also burn down Mokuton, and his Lava Release Armor will stop it from entangling him.

Utakata has his Corrosive Gas to handle Mokuton.

They won't get caught easily either, they have the Sharingan so that means they also have Sharingan precog and Rinnegan shared field of vision to evade Mokuton

Madara's clones can handle the Jinchuuriki. He can make as many as he wants with his infinite chakra.
Obito has no chance of survival if he stays in battle.

KidGamer65 · Sep 17, 2012

Djokovic said:
Madara's clones can handle the Jinchuuriki. He can make as many as he wants with his infinite chakra.
Obito has no chance of survival if he stays in battle.

He still has no counter to S/T. If Obito's is pushed into defense then he can't be hit since he will just move parts of his body to the other dimension.

Djokovic · Sep 17, 2012

KidGamer65 said:
He still has no counter to S/T. If Obito's is pushed into defense then he can't be hit since he will just move parts of his body to the other dimension.

Madara's EMS abilities are still unknown apart from his PS. Obito cant hurt him, he either stays and dies or flees like a coward.

KidGamer65 · Sep 17, 2012

Djokovic said:
Madara's EMS abilities are still unknown apart from his PS. Obito cant hurt him, he either stays and dies or flees like a coward.

Obito can hurt him, or he can warp by him and use human path or suck him in, and you STILL didn't state how he counters Obito's S/T Jutsu.

Djokovic · Sep 17, 2012

The problem is Madara knows about the jutsu and wont give Obito any adventage. Obito is slowly becoming fodder compared to Madara.
I predict in a few chapters we wont be seeing any Obito fans in vs threads against Madara. I remember weeks ago when I was completely surrounded by fanboys, now they're all gone, crying in a corner how Kishi fodderized Tobi.

KidGamer65 · Sep 17, 2012

Djokovic said:
The problem is Madara knows about the jutsu and wont give Obito any adventage. Obito is slowly becoming fodder compared to Madara.
I predict in a few chapters we wont be seeing any Obito fans in vs threads against Madara. I remember weeks ago when I was completely surrounded by fanboys, now they're all gone, crying in a corner how Kishi fodderized Tobi.

You keep on saying "he knows about the Jutsu" did I ask if he knew about it, no I didn't, I asked how does he counter it

How is Kishimoto fodderizing Obito? How is he slowly becoming fodder?

MinatoTheBoss · Sep 17, 2012

Edo Madara

Stark · Sep 17, 2012

Edo Madara

3MESSIAH · Sep 17, 2012

madara.but it wouldnt be easy.madara would probably have to tire out obitos chakra supply to defeat him.because i dont see him overcoming obitos kamui

arv993 · Sep 17, 2012

KidGamer65 said:
You keep on saying "he knows about the Jutsu" did I ask if he knew about it, no I didn't, I asked how does he counter it

How is Kishimoto fodderizing Obito? How is he slowly becoming fodder?

his flower world tech and his hashirama bushin tech which onlly madara can see through which madara used against tsunade can paralyze and can potentially allow him to hit tobi. Also if his clones use wood release and just pull out the stakes of the jinks they are useless and go back in the gedo mazo. And mokuton can suppress the beasts making it easier to take out the stakes that are binding them.

but idk wtf the other guy is talking about fodderizing tobi?

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