Edo Madara has the most chakra

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Hashirama was using moves that could contain the juubi on top of that made clones then a whole fight with his ultimate rival without losing chakra.

But Tobirama only able to created few clones mean their chakra reserve is not limitless and varies between individuals. Its pointing to something else.

Also Hashirama is known as Chakra monster.
 

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they all have unlimited chakra one could wear perfect sosano everyday like it was a well tailored suit
 

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nopes Hashi still trumps him.....by what madara meant as limitless was in the sense that it keep regenerating at high speed which makes it seem like you have unlimited amount of chakra however an Edo body can store a limited chakra at a time depending upon whose EDo it is...and looking at hashi's comment on this page i think it will end all the debate............

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Notice he says "COMPARABLE TO MINE" obviously he is indicating his reserves are even more....so basically Hashirama's chakra reserves are greater than the full kyubi if this page is to be taken into consoderation..
 

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edo tensei is a bit flawed and confuses alot of persons when it says unlimited chakra
 

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nopes Hashi still trumps him.....by what madara meant as limitless was in the sense that it keep regenerating at high speed which makes it seem like you have unlimited amount of chakra however an Edo body can store a limited chakra at a time depending upon whose EDo it is...and looking at hashi's comment on this page i think it will end all the debate............

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Notice he says "COMPARABLE TO MINE" obviously he is indicating his reserves are even more....so basically Hashirama's chakra reserves are greater than the full kyubi if this page is to be taken into consoderation..

he wasnt full kyubii i think
 

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limitless chakra but his chakra potency can only go up to 25 wood susanoo clones while hashirama's was six wood clones while holding up the other end of four red yang formation. So you can't compare the quantity of chakra when all edo tenseis are unlimited chakra but you have to go by quality/potency.

Technically edo madara only made 25 clones due to the fact it was 5 vs 1 him sohe said 5 vs 1 is good for games so he made 5 clones per 1 hokage... So he could have made more, it just goes to show how much he played around with them
 

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nopes Hashi still trumps him.....by what madara meant as limitless was in the sense that it keep regenerating at high speed which makes it seem like you have unlimited amount of chakra however an Edo body can store a limited chakra at a time depending upon whose EDo it is...and looking at hashi's comment on this page i think it will end all the debate............

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Notice he says "COMPARABLE TO MINE" obviously he is indicating his reserves are even more....so basically Hashirama's chakra reserves are greater than the full kyubi if this page is to be taken into consoderation..

Just because hashirama has more than the kyuubi that doesn't mean edo madara has less than edo hashirama, you do realize ps equals kyuubi in everyway so I'd imagine the chakra output is roughly the same, and also bijuu chakra has been equalled by many... Nagato, kisame, Ay, kabuto...Madara controlled both kyuubi and ps at the same time while alive so hashirama just saying he has more than naruto means nothing to this debate
 

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No, they only have access to the amount in their chakra pool, however every time a jutsu is used, it gets refilled again.
 

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Just because hashirama has more than the kyuubi that doesn't mean edo madara has less than edo hashirama, you do realize ps equals kyuubi in everyway so I'd imagine the chakra output is roughly the same, and also bijuu chakra has been equalled by many... Nagato, kisame, Ay, kabuto...Madara controlled both kyuubi and ps at the same time while alive so hashirama just saying he has more than naruto means nothing to this debate

I don't think Hashirama or madara has more chakra than the kyuubi and Hashirama was talking about the volume of the chakra cloaks he gave the alliance. volume means the mass or capacity of the kyuubi cloak chakra not the exact amount of the kyuubi. At best when each of those shinobis were alive, they were only able to fight for one day before ultimately running out of chakra completely. (or less than a day, can't remember) but ultimately edo tenseis are suppose to have unlimated chakra, you can be Edo granny chiyo or Edo Madara, neither of them is ruuning out of chakra.
 

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Just because hashirama has more than the kyuubi that doesn't mean edo madara has less than edo hashirama, you do realize ps equals kyuubi in everyway so I'd imagine the chakra output is roughly the same, and also bijuu chakra has been equalled by many... Nagato, kisame, Ay, kabuto...Madara controlled both kyuubi and ps at the same time while alive so hashirama just saying he has more than naruto means nothing to this debate

Fighting a biju on equal ground has nothing to do with having greater chakra than a damn biju......Nagato , Ay , Kabuto never equalled biju chakra...Madara only after absorbing all the tailed beasts and becoming sage managed to do that....Kisame was called the tailless beast but even his chakra is nothing compared to full Kyubi....perfect susano is an Avatar yes but that doesn't mean that the user has equal chakra to a biju...Sasuke too uses PS but we know that he has infact lesser chakra that Naruto when he was using PS....just because an avatar is giant in size doesn't mean that your personal chakra is equal to a biju.....Remember Hashirama's shinsu senju compare its size to madara's PS it towered over the PS...even by your logic Hashi's chakra > Madara
 

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Edo Madara doesn't have the most chakra.

Edos are shown to have infinite chakra through their chakra regenerating at a very high rate, but they have been shown to succumb to fatigue if their chakra usage far exceeds the amount their reserves regenerate. They still retain the Chakra Reserves they possessed when Alive, but their chakra simply regenerates at a much higher rate which is why it's referred to as infinite.

Examples of this are shown when Edo Minato needed his chakra to regenerate after warping the entire Alliance outside of Obito's barrier, hence why he couldn't warp to Naruto or when Hashirama was panting profusely trying to seal Edo Madara.
 

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limitless chakra but his chakra potency can only go up to 25 wood susanoo clones while hashirama's was six wood clones while holding up the other end of four red yang formation. So you can't compare the quantity of chakra when all edo tenseis are unlimited chakra but you have to go by quality/potency.

He made 25 so it can be 5 vs 1
 

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Edo Madara doesn't have the most chakra.

Edos are shown to have infinite chakra through their chakra regenerating at a very high rate, but they have been shown to succumb to fatigue if their chakra usage far exceeds the amount their reserves regenerate. They still retain the Chakra Reserves they possessed when Alive, but their chakra simply regenerates at a much higher rate which is why it's referred to as infinite.

Examples of this are shown when Edo Minato needed his chakra to regenerate after warping the entire Alliance outside of Obito's barrier, hence why he couldn't warp to Naruto or when Hashirama was panting profusely trying to seal Edo Madara.

Where in the manga did it say all that?
 

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Where in the manga did it say all that?

I don't think it's been stated, but it's a reasonable conclusion you can make given that Edo Tenseis have actually fatigued in the manga.
 

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I don't think Hashirama or madara has more chakra than the kyuubi and Hashirama was talking about the volume of the chakra cloaks he gave the alliance. volume means the mass or capacity of the kyuubi cloak chakra not the exact amount of the kyuubi. At best when each of those shinobis were alive, they were only able to fight for one day before ultimately running out of chakra completely. (or less than a day, can't remember) but ultimately edo tenseis are suppose to have unlimated chakra, you can be Edo granny chiyo or Edo Madara, neither of them is ruuning out of chakra.

it seems like he is actually comparing Naruto's entire chakra reserve to his own..."thats an impressive amount of chakra comparable to mine" it can actually mean for both....what you say also makes sense....but the level of jutsus that hashirama has shown to be using well that can imply for both too.....
 

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But Tobirama only able to created few clones mean their chakra reserve is not limitless and varies between individuals. Its pointing to something else.

Also Hashirama is known as Chakra monster.

Tbh i think Kishi retconned them having unlimited chakra since he made Madara too strong. That was the first time an edo had to worry about chakra and it was the freaking 2nd Hokage a chakra beast himself.
 

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Tbh i think Kishi retconned them having unlimited chakra since he made Madara too strong. That was the first time an edo had to worry about chakra and it was the freaking 2nd Hokage a chakra beast himself.

I think it was because he was also applying chakra to the barrier which limited the amount of clones he could use at the time.
 

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Same amount of chakra. Except that chakra replenishes after every use. When one uses a clone, that chakra also splits amongst them. If the clone has a 10% supply of that individual's chakra, then the original will have 90%. The moment that clone dissapears, the Edo.will regain that amount of chakra instead of just losing it.
 
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