Edo Madara confusion

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I am confused as to what edo madara is. Kabuto says that his trump card is the fusion of hashi and madara, but didn't madara obtain some of hashis power after their fight and awakened the rinnegan? what did kabuto do? or did madara only gain the rinnegan after their fight? did madara have wood style jutsu cause of the power he gained after his fight with hashi or was it because of kabuto?
 

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He gained Mokuton and Hashi's vitality and physical power/life force.
 

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I believe;

- He made him 'beyond his prime'. Madara obtained Rinnegan shortly before his death. This suggests he was either ill, in a weakened state or old. Therefore, being revived in a youthful body with the Rinnegan would mean he is > what he was when he was alive.

- Gave him Mokuton, something Orochimaru was able to achieve with Yamato. That's why I think Kabuto was blabbling on about research he and Oro conducted etc when he was addressing Madara.
 

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He always had it, kabuto just gave him extra hashi dna.
 

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Like others said he restored him to his prime youth and gave him mokoton on par with Hashirama himself.
 

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Madara already gained the rinnegan but he probably was to weakened by the Harashima fight to actually be powerful enough to make full use of its power cause of his body. Kabuto gave him the youthful body he had when he faced Harashima with the powers he had before his death. An edo is within the condition he was in before his death, Nagato's legs were still unusable.
 

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Since others are slingin un-confirmed beliefs, might as well. Madara's purpose in facing Hashirama at the Valley of the End was to awaken his EMS to Rinnegan. He lived through the battle but died later due to injuries. Kabuto's "beyond your prime" statement was the enhancement of Hashirama's DNA. That's what Kabuto had access to, and knowing what a Sharingan user can do through observation Kabuto knew that Madara would be able to use the techs. Kabuto doesn't have some kind of Edo Tensei that makes the corpse younger then revives it. If folks are concerned by the Nagato comment from Madara, and want to stay with a linear timeline, its more believable to say that Hashirama's cells kept Madara young, but he died of a disease. That at least adds some intrigue and parallels Itachi a little. Come on guys put some thought into it......
 
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Since others are slingin un-confirmed beliefs, might as well. Madara's purpose in facing Hashirama at the Valley of the End was to awaken his EMS to Rinnegan. He lived through the battle but died later due to injuries. Kabuto's "beyond your prime" statement was the addition of Hashirama's DNA. That's what Kabuto had access to, and knowing what a Sharingan user can do through observation Kabuto knew that Madara would be able to use the techs. Kabuto doesn't have some kind of Edo Tensei that makes the corpse younger then revives it. If folks are concerned by the Nagato comment from Madara, and want to stay with a linear timeline, its more believable to say that Hashirama's cells kept Madara young, but he died of a disease. That at least adds some intrigue and parallels Itachi a little. Come on guys put some thought into it......

Didnt Madara fight with Hashirama to gain a portion of his powers rather than the rinnegan, cant remember where it was said.
 

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he gained the ability to use mokuton
 

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There is something that's on my mind for a while which is, did Madara really get Hashirama's DNA? Madara himself never said so, Kabuto asked if it were true and Madara didn't answer.

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While Kabuto said he didn't know about his prime.

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This made me a bit confused too.
 

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Argh just question after question and no answers, I really wish kishi just answer them soon if he hasnt forgotten them.
 

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There is something that's on my mind for a while which is, did Madara really get Hashirama's DNA? Madara himself never said so, Kabuto asked if it were true and Madara didn't answer.

Exactly, and if Kabuto doesn't know for certain that Madara survived the Valley of the End and lived to old age, why would he "develop" a jutsu that would restore his youth in Edo form? So, Madara either died after facing Hashirama or from disease. I personally favor the former because Madara said only Hashirama can defeat him, and he is still obsessed with him. One would think that he would be talking about how he was betrayed by his clan if you believe Tobi, but this guy is still twisted up about Hashirama.
 
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