Edo Kage vs Uchiha Brothers (both MS)

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MS Sasuke and MS Itachi

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2nd Mizukage, 2nd Tsuchikage (Mu), 3rd Raikage, and 4th Kazekage

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Location: Desert
Intel: Full
Conditions: All are alive. All start in base.
Prep time: 1 minute of strategizing, jutsu cannot be used in this 1 minute
Restrictions: Izanami

Scenario 2: Sasuke becomes EMS and Itachi becomes Edo. Gaara and Onoki come to help out the kage.
 

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The Edo Kage win S1, Sasuke solos S2.
 

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The Edo Kage win S1, Sasuke solos S2.

Are you referring to PS? Because PS is not necessarily a game changer, the kage have offensive firepower capable of breaking through a Perfect Susano'o

-Jinton from Mu
-Jinton from Onoki
-Hell Stab (which was powerful enough to cut through the Third Raikage's own armour)
-Hell Stab + Added-weight rock technique
-Lightened-weight rock technique (Onoki can pick up Perfect Susano'o and throw it)

And even if Sasuke's Susano'o can fly, the entirety of Team 2 can fly as well
 

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I don't see PS soloing S2.

You have both Gaara and his dad in a desert.

That's pretty much unlimited ammo. As big as Susanoo is, it will still fall under the tons of sand.
 

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Are you referring to PS? Because PS is not necessarily a game changer, the kage have offensive firepower capable of breaking through a Perfect Susano'o

They only have Jinton, which will never hit. On the other hand, PS would kill all of them with a simple sword swing.

-Jinton from Mu
PS would kill him long before it fires.

-Jinton from Onoki
Same as Mu.

-Hell Stab (which was powerful enough to cut through the Third Raikage's own armour)
Bijuu Dama>>Nukite. PS tanked Bijuu Dama, so Nukite isn't phasing it. Piercing the Raikage isn't anything special here when he isn't as durable as Susanoo.

-Hell Stab + Added-weight rock technique
Nukite is a piercing attack, so increasing the weight won't help like it would when you increase the weight of a fist.

-Lightened-weight rock technique (Onoki can pick up Perfect Susano'o and throw it)
That wouldn't break it, that'd just make it way too fast for them to hit (Ay got much faster when lightened) meaning it'd decimate them all even easier than it would without the buff.

Not to mention Onoki dies a terrible death if he tries to touch Susanoo.

And even if Sasuke's Susano'o can fly, the entirety of Team 2 can fly as well

I dunno if it can fly, so I'll just say it can't since we only saw that with his Rikudo Susanoo.


I don't see PS soloing S2.

You have both Gaara and his dad in a desert.

That's pretty much unlimited ammo. As big as Susanoo is, it will still fall under the tons of sand.

Not only do they not have the chakra to manipulate enough sand to bury the whole of Perfect Susanoo, they can't gather the Sand and control it instantly either, so one swing of the blade blows their sand away, and kills them. Foiling their plan.
 

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They only have Jinton, which will never hit. On the other hand, PS would kill all of them with a simple sword swing.


PS would kill him long before it fires.
Same as Mu.

Sasuke can't see Mu due to invisibility. Mu flies behind Sasuke into his blind spot and loads a jinton. Onoki on his own won't get killed by PS if he makes the Third Raikage super light and stays on his back - it's doubtful if the sharingan can even keep up at this speed Madara couldn't react, Sasuke couldn't even see Ay in V2, and Mu (a sensor) couldn't react to this speed. So a PS won't kill them.


Bijuu Dama>>Nukite. PS tanked Bijuu Dama, so Nukite isn't phasing it. Piercing the Raikage isn't anything special here when he isn't as durable as Susanoo.

I was mainly referring to Hell Stab when used in conjunction with Added-Weight rock technique. Besides, it was implied that the Third Raikage tanked a bijuudama from the Hachibi so I'm not sure that Bijuudama > nukite. Not to mention, the Raikage cut off all the Hachibi's tails in a single strike, and BM Killer Bee has tanked his own bijuudama...


Nukite is a piercing attack, so increasing the weight won't help like it would when you increase the weight of a fist.

....an attack that can only pierce so far depending on the amount of force behind it. If Onoki times his Added-weight rock technique right, the weight and force behind the Raikage's nukite is increased a hundredfold.


That wouldn't break it, that'd just make it way too fast for them to hit (Ay got much faster when lightened) meaning it'd decimate them all even easier than it would without the buff.

Okay, then Onoki uses Added-weight rock technique to make Susano'o too heavy to move. Now Sasuke can't move his Susano'o so he'll have no choice but to dispell it if he wants to use it again, leaving him open for an attack

Not to mention Onoki dies a terrible death if he tries to touch Susanoo.

How so?

Not only do they not have the chakra to manipulate enough sand to bury the whole of Perfect Susanoo, they can't gather the Sand and control it instantly either, so one swing of the blade blows their sand away, and kills them. Foiling their plan.

They don't have to bury it completely. They can use massive sand arms/sand tsunamis to restrain the arms or legs and hold him down long enough for Mu or Onoki to get in a jinton, not to mention Onoki can lighten Gaara's sand or the 4th Kazekage's gold dust to make it much faster - or weigh it down to make it harder for Sasuke to break free. Gaara and the 4th Kazekage can also make a sandstorm to block Sasuke's vision or line of sight so he doesn't know what's going on. And this isn't even factoring in the 2nd Mizukage.
 

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Just adding this here for the misconception of Sasuke's eye apparently never progressing...
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Yea, surprising huh? He could see Juubito speed but he can't see standard shinobi, sounds about right.
 

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Scenario 1: Kages win.
The 3rd can solo Itachi imo. The rest just gangbangs Sasuke.

Scenario 2: Sasuke solos.
The kages don't have nothing on a PS.
 

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Sasuke can't see Mu due to invisibility. Mu flies behind Sasuke into his blind spot and loads a jinton. Onoki on his own won't get killed by PS if he makes the Third Raikage super light and stays on his back - it's doubtful if the sharingan can even keep up at this speed Madara couldn't react, Sasuke couldn't even see Ay in V2, and Mu (a sensor) couldn't react to this speed. So a PS won't kill them.

Except Sasuke isn't going to be looking in one spot the whole time, combine that with the fact that Jinton has a charge time (meaning he needs to visible) Sasuke will easily locate and kill him before he fires.

Onoki and the 3rd's flight speed is nothing, since in air, its just Onoki's speed as the 3rd can't use his speed in mid air, not to mention he is only as fast as V1 Ay, not V2 Ay. Also, that was MS Sasuke. EMS Sasuke's reactions and precognition increased to the point where he could , and f Juubito is on another tier of speed compared to anyone in this match, so if Sasuke swings his blade to kill, his target will get hit.



I was mainly referring to Hell Stab when used in conjunction with Added-Weight rock technique. Besides, it was implied that the Third Raikage tanked a bijuudama from the Hachibi so I'm not sure that Bijuudama > nukite. Not to mention, the Raikage cut off all the Hachibi's tails in a single strike, and BM Killer Bee has tanked his own bijuudama...

How was it implied? Hachibi simply thought that Bijuu Dama is what put that scar on his body, since its his own strongest technique, and he wouldn't have guessed that the Raikage did it to himself. That doesn't mean that he tanked a Bijuu Dama. Not to mention Full Kurama's Bijuu Dama is bigger and stronger than the ones Hachibi fires out.

....an attack that can only pierce so far depending on the amount of force behind it. If Onoki times his Added-weight rock technique right, the weight and force behind the Raikage's nukite is increased a hundredfold.
That's not how it works.

When he makes Ay's fist heavier, he does it right before he's about to hit the opponent, so that when he hits, the hit will be stronger since his fist weights much more than before. The Raikage has to continue pushing to pierce with Nukite. Making his hand heavier won't increase the power of Nukite because the weight behind the technique is irrelevant as its a piercing jutsu using Raiton, not the Raikage's strength. Weighted Boulder Jutsu doesn't increase the force behind Ay's fist, it only increases the weight itself...since he needs to continue pushing forward to use Nukite, if Onoki makes his fist heavy, he'll end up making him move slower, thus Nukite won't be as effective.


Okay, then Onoki uses Added-weight rock technique to make Susano'o too heavy to move. Now Sasuke can't move his Susano'o so he'll have no choice but to dispell it if he wants to use it again, leaving him open for an attack



How so?

Blades that move fast enough to hit Juubito combined with Sasuke's precog means Onoki isn't going to evade. Not to mention PS can make shockwaves.



hey don't have to bury it completely. They can use massive sand arms/sand tsunamis to restrain the arms or legs and hold him down long enough for Mu or Onoki to get in a jinton, not to mention Onoki can lighten Gaara's sand or the 4th Kazekage's gold dust to make it much faster - or weigh it down to make it harder for Sasuke to break free. Gaara and the 4th Kazekage can also make a sandstorm to block Sasuke's vision or line of sight so he doesn't know what's going on. And this isn't even factoring in the 2nd Mizukage.

They haven't shown to have enough chakra to use Sand Tsunami's the size of Sasuke's Perfect Susanoo, nor is their sand strong enough to hold it down, going by feats. Not to mention a Sand pyramid made by Shukaku and Gaara was and that was enough to bury the whole entire Susanoo.

If Onoki wants to make it heavier, he'll have to do it while its already binding the Susanoo, and I've already gone over what happens if he comes close. If he does it before hand, the sand/dust will get too heavy for Gaara and his father to control. If he lightens it, he makes it faster, but much weaker than it should be, so that isn't going to help at all.

Sharingan let Sasuke see through the pillars in Kabuto's cave. Gaara and his father haven't shown to be able to create Sand Storms let alone one big enough to mess up Sasuke's vision.
 
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Uchiha bros win both scenes.
 

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Uchiha bros win. Amaterasu pretty much shits on on all of them. Manda rapes Gaara's dad and the Mizukage. Amaterasu takes out Muu and 3rd Raikage. Scene 2 Sasuke wins neg difficulty.
 

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kages win scenario 1 mid diff at most
Uchihas win scenario 2 mid diff
 

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Non of those kages can solo itachi stop with the wank tsukuyomi followed by totsKa deal with it even amaterasu uchiha bros win both scenarios if they have time to plan then they win itachi just outsmarts them all
 

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Scenario 1 is a low diff win for the edo kages. Scenario 2 is a mid diff win for the Uchiha bros.
 

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The uchiha wins both scenario's

Amaterasu gg 3rd and Gaara dad and mizukage jinton is never landing either

Sasuke solos s2
 
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