Edo Itachi vs Six paths of Pain.

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Pain wins. Itachi gets overwhelmed (just like jiraiya)
 

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False yet again. You fail to realize that as a core it has to withstand the force of all the rocks being slammed into it, via its already incredibly strong gravity. By default the core is more durable than the body and thus more durable than the Matanagma.

Lol all that was lifted onto the core was rock and some trees. Your comparison and therefore statement is irrelevant unless you believe rapidly spinning stabilized chakra blades = wood and pebbles Lol. And either way you're incorrect. The material doesn't slam into the core at first.

It's very clearly shown that it coats the core slowly at first and increases its gravitational pull as time goes on.
 

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Lol all that was lifted onto the core was rock and some trees. Your comparison and therefore statement is irrelevant unless you believe rapidly spinning stabilized chakra blades = wood and pebbles Lol. And either way you're incorrect. The material doesn't slam into the core at first.

It's very clearly shown that it coats the core slowly at first and increases its gravitational pull as time goes on.

Rocks and trees compacted densely enough to stop 6 tails naruto's tbb's. So yeah. There goes all your comparisons.
It dosent have to. Since even fully or partially formed its still under that pressure.
Either way Matanagma isn't getting through the rocks when it does form nor will it do anything to the dense core.
 

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Rocks and trees compacted densely enough to stop 6 tails naruto's tbb's. So yeah. There goes all your comparisons.
It dosent have to. Since even fully or partially formed its still under that pressure.
Either way Matanagma isn't getting through the rocks when it does form nor will it do anything to the dense core.

Dear god, are you genuinely serious right now?

It blocked his TBB because Naruto gave it the time to turn this massive.

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Everything you've said is still irrelevant. Itachi won't let it become that large.
 

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Dear god, are you genuinely serious right now?

It blocked his TBB because Naruto gave it the time to turn this massive.

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Everything you've said is still irrelevant. Itachi won't let it become that large.

Lmaooooooooo it's like the guy can't comprehend the logic. The rocks and trees are densely compacted on themselves thus blocking the tbb's. The core is the densest part of ct. CT core> rocks surrounding ct. So if can't get past the rocks what makes you think it's doing jack sh¡t to the core?
 

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Lmaooooooooo it's like the guy can't comprehend the logic. The rocks and trees are densely compacted on themselves thus blocking the tbb's. The core is the densest part of ct. CT core> rocks surrounding ct. So if can't get past the rocks what makes you think it's doing jack sh¡t to the core?

Show me a scan of the core being stated as the densest part of CT. Where did a Magatama fail to pierce rock and or trees?
 

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To be fair, it also didn't crush or kill Sakura, Shizune, Hinata, etc. ...
OT: With Chibaku Tensei restricted, probably Itachi.

They weren't at the focus of the technique, and its AoE was spread out, so little targets don't feel the brunt of it. If he aims to hit Itachi with it, the force will be focused on him and it'll destroy his Susanoo.

Pain wasn't killed because they were out of its AoE, though that doesn't matter since he doesn't need to use an AoE CST to beat Itachi's Susanoo.
 

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Show me a scan of the core being stated as the densest part of CT. Where did a Magatama fail to pierce rock and or trees?

If the core wasn't the densest part then the rocks surrounding it would crush it. Durr.

Madara's massively stronger Matanagma failed to get through onnoki's golem. Itachi's Matanagma failed to destroy the ceiling of the cave. Both the golem and the cave ceiling is weaker than the ultra compacted rocks surrounding ct. Gosh. Must I spell Everything out for you to get it ?
 

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Itachi already analyzed and countered it canonically. While you can say he borrowed firepower from Naruto and Bee, it's irrelevant since he has an unlimited amount of chakra to spam Magatamas at the core. Itachi simply unleashes dozens of Yasaka no Magatamas at the core once he discerns it flying up into the sky with the Sharingan.​

First, Edo Itachi doesn't have unlimited Chakra (Edo Hokage are example of that). Second, 3 of his Yasaka Magatama couldn't even destroy a cave.

OT: Deva Path focuses a large Shinra Tensei, then proceeds to paralyse him with the Outer Path.​
 

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If the core wasn't the densest part then the rocks surrounding it would crush it. Durr.

I already showed you a scan that disproved this statement.

Madara's massively stronger Matanagma failed to get through onnoki's golem. Itachi's Matanagma failed to destroy the ceiling of the cave. Both the golem and the cave ceiling is weaker than the ultra compacted rocks surrounding ct. Gosh. Must I spell Everything out for you to get it ?

Madara's Magatama isn't stronger at all. It's the same technique and if either of theirs were to be stronger it would be, individually, Itachi's. Itachi links multiple Magatamas so it's more compacted and therefore has a stronger effect. The "ultra compacted rocks" won't be in his way. Itachi will go after the core prior to it developing.
 

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First, Edo Itachi doesn't have unlimited Chakra (Edo Hokage are example of that). Second, 3 of his Yasaka Magatama couldn't even destroy a cave.​

Whatever came into contact with his Beads inside of the cave was promptly pierced and exploded, and Itachi wasn't even using his linked Yasaka no Magatamas, which overall make the destruction capabilities of the jutsu more powerful.
 

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They weren't at the focus of the technique, and its AoE was spread out, so little targets don't feel the brunt of it. If he aims to hit Itachi with it, the force will be focused on him and it'll destroy his Susanoo.
Pain wasn't killed because they were out of its AoE, though that doesn't matter since he doesn't need to use an AoE CST to beat Itachi's Susanoo.
exactly, it'd be insta-rape

I was trynna explain this in a another thread, but this is better stated.

for the sake of effectiveness & clarity,
I guess the proper argument is now: ''CT to the head/CT blitz'' ...''GG''

maybe that will help people better conceptualize Nagatos supersession of the kage level
 
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I already showed you a scan that disproved this statement.



Madara's Magatama isn't stronger at all. It's the same technique and if either of theirs were to be stronger it would be, individually, Itachi's. Itachi links multiple Magatamas so it's more compacted and therefore has a stronger effect. The "ultra compacted rocks" won't be in his way. Itachi will go after the core prior to it developing.

No you didn't. Nothing can disprove what's true.

Yes it is just because it's the same technique that dosent mean there's discrepancies in strength from user to user. Itachi at best linked 3. Madara linked over 9. I already explained the rest.
 

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No you didn't. Nothing can disprove what's true.

Yes I did and you still fail to counter it.


Yes it is just because it's the same technique that dosent mean there's discrepancies in strength from user to user. Itachi at best linked 3. Madara linked over 9. I already explained the rest.

Lol, @bold you contradicted yourself. Nevertheless, just because Madara has used more than Itachi doesn't mean that Itachi cannot use the same; the absence of evidence is not evidence of an absence. Either way a few of them are more than enough to destroy the core.
 

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Whatever came into contact with his Beads inside of the cave was promptly pierced and exploded, and Itachi wasn't even using his linked Yasaka no Magatamas, which overall make the destruction capabilities of the jutsu more powerful.

That's not what I meant. BenjaminGaye already proposed a good example of Madara failed to break the Doton: Golem, while the rocks of Chibaku Tensei can take the explosion of Bijuu-Dama. Itachi doesn't break CT. Not to today and not ever.​
 
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