Edo Itachi outlasts both scenario's. With PS restricted, EMS Sasuke is not penetrating a Yata equipped V4 Susano'o. It'll just be a lame ass Susano'o fight, until Sasuke's drops.
Edit: Oh wait, didn't see infinite chakra being restricted. So does he have his normal alive reserves? If so then uhhhh... EMS Sasuke outlasts. You should restrict Susano'o lol.
lmao @ outlast healthy itachi. the sick canon itachi used tsuku, 2amats, fire ball, shadow clones, crow clones, several 3T gens, v3-4 susanoo twice, vision deteriorated for years and still held back against hebi sasuke w/ sannin absorbed then totsuka sealed orochi just seconds before he died and you telling me a healthy version can't outlast someone who needed karin to juice him up from just using susanoo and amat against KB, raikage, danzo lmao sure.
lmao @ outlast healthy itachi. the sick canon itachi used tsuku, 2amats, fire ball, shadow clones, crow clones, several 3T gens, v3-4 susanoo twice, vision deteriorated for years and still held back against hebi sasuke w/ sannin absorbed then totsuka sealed orochi just seconds before he died and you telling me a healthy version can't outlast someone who needed karin to juice him up from just using susanoo and amat against KB, raikage, danzo lmao sure.
You listed all this crap as if half of it was even impressive.
The only impressive things there are obviously the MS techniques, which an MS Sasuke beat at the Kage Summit. And even then he couldn't continue because MS sapped his strength, something which won't happen with EMS Sasuke who can just spam this shit. I mean he was trashing some Zetsu with Ama and Susano'o spam lol.
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This is the problem with debating healthy Itachi. You can make up whatever standard of chakra you want for him. I'm not having any of it. EMS Sasuke trashes him in both scenarios.
Updated OP: With Susano'o restricted, this is a whole other ball game. It's closer, but assuming MS techniques outside of Susano'o are still allowed, EMS Sasuke still takes this relatively handily, mid-diff.
Tsuk isn't doing jack to Sauce.
Sasuke's Ama spam > Itachi's Ama spam, and he even has Kagutsuchi to gain the edge here.
General stats edges out to Sasuke as well, who was taking on a Juubi Jin with EMS.
It's not going to be as easy but Sasuke still wins in Scenarios 3 and 4.
I'm going to need to see how EMS Sasuke, who essentially has everything Itachi has but with better stats and abilities, is going to lose here.
You listed all this crap as if half of it was even impressive.
The only impressive things there are obviously the MS techniques, which an MS Sasuke beat at the Kage Summit. And even then he couldn't continue because MS sapped his strength, something which won't happen with EMS Sasuke who can just spam this shit. I mean he was trashing some Zetsu with Ama and Susano'o spam lol.
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This is the problem with debating healthy Itachi. You can make up whatever standard of chakra you want for him. I'm not having any of it. EMS Sasuke trashes him in both scenarios.
Updated OP: With Susano'o restricted, this is a whole other ball game. It's closer, but assuming MS techniques outside of Susano'o are still allowed, EMS Sasuke still takes this relatively handily, mid-diff.
Tsuk isn't doing jack to Sauce.
Sasuke's Ama spam > Itachi's Ama spam, and he even has Kagutsuchi to gain the edge here.
General stats edges out to Sasuke as well, who was taking on a Juubi Jin with EMS.
It's not going to be as easy but Sasuke still wins in Scenarios 3 and 4.
I'm going to need to see how EMS Sasuke, who essentially has everything Itachi has but with better stats and abilities, is going to lose here.
LOL!
1. shadow clones. = evenly distributes chakra to the clones.
2. used mangekyou with reserve so low and managed to keep up susanoo. = more impressive
3. near death and blind uses v4 susanoo meanwhile MS sasuke couldn't even maintain it against kakashi.
4. lmao @ the zetsu scan. iirc EMS dojutsu has little to nonexistance drawbacks. nice try thou
5. "The only impressive things there are obviously the MS techniques" used by someone with lower stamina/chakra than both hebi sasuke and kakashi. nice downplay.
6. "sasuke could spam amaterasu" pretty certain sasuke used it in small burst. meanwhile itachi
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could care less about the rest of your post. didn't come here to discuss who wins since everyone seems to be having sasuke camp like a ***** in susanoo all day, just here to call out that "outlast" bullshit. so sick of ****ing tired of seeing it in every itachi related thread like that retarded ass pain arc naruto outlasting itachi. gtfoh
You'd have to be delusional to ever try and argue any version of Itachi who doesn't have infinite chakra will win against EMS Sasuke. No matter how much one dislikes the outlasting argument, that's exactly what happens here and there's obviously no two ways about it unless Itachi gets some magic ability to penetrate V4 Susanoo.
-Tsukuyomi. Useless.
-Amaterasu. Useless.
-Susanoo? Offensively Sasuke is superior but defensively Itachi is far superior. Yet neither can hurt the other. Meaning the one with the most stamina wins. EMS>>>>MS in that department. When Itachi can't maintain V4 or a V3 that has Yata Mirror Sasuke lights his shit up with Kirin. That's why Susanoo vs. Susanoo battles are boring 99% of the time.
S3: If it became CQC Itachi like has the edge based on their performance against Kabuto, but then when you factor in Ninjutsu Sasuke takes the clear win here.
-EMS Sasuke's chakra is stronger than MS Sasuke's chakra who's chakra, before reaching full power, is darker and stronger than CS2 Sasuke's. Itachi couldn't match CS2 Sasuke in raw power so he's not going to match EMS Sasuke, and Sasuke still has Enton.
S4: He's out of Itachi's league here. Enton can be used handheld, he can fire flame bursts that are almost half the height and width of FRS's explosion, and he has the advantage in speed and reactions and Ninjutsu.
Lmao Sasuke didn't push Itachi to jack. It's a manga fact that Itachi went soft serve on Sasuke.
I don't know why you think EMS Sasuke > Hebi Sasuke without the Sharingan here. Did Sasuke undergo some training without the Sharingan that I'm not aware of between Hebi and EMS? As far as I'm concerned, without Sharingan upgrades, EMS Sasuke and Hebi Sasuke have the same skillset.
Minato merks his ass without Sharingan. We already know that Minato's reactions are at LEAST comparable to Killer B's, and Killer B was merking Sasuke in Taijustu while Sasuke had his Sharingan.
Lmao Sasuke didn't push Itachi to jack. It's a manga fact that Itachi went soft serve on Sasuke.
I don't know why you think EMS Sasuke > Hebi Sasuke without the Sharingan here. Did Sasuke undergo some training without the Sharingan that I'm not aware of between Hebi and EMS? As far as I'm concerned, without Sharingan upgrades, EMS Sasuke and Hebi Sasuke have the same skillset.
Minato merks his ass without Sharingan. We already know that Minato's reactions are at LEAST comparable to Killer B's, and Killer B was merking Sasuke in Taijustu while Sasuke had his Sharingan.
Itachi would have needed susanoo to defeat him anyways. CQC damn near even given Sasuke the edge with his kenjutsu and ration, Genjutsu useless both sides Snake summonings and Manda dominates Itachi, Amaterasu oral rebirth or snake shed counters Ama, Susanoo is Itachi's only hope. So like i Said Its a high diff fight.
I don't know why you think EMS Sasuke > Hebi Sasuke without the Sharingan here. Did Sasuke undergo some training without the Sharingan that I'm not aware of between Hebi and EMS? As far as I'm concerned, without Sharingan upgrades, EMS Sasuke and Hebi Sasuke have the same skillset.
Minato merks his ass without Sharingan. We already know that Minato's reactions are at LEAST comparable to Killer B's, and Killer B was merking Sasuke in Taijustu while Sasuke had his Sharingan.
In S1, he fights itachi's V4 Susanoo with his own V4. Eventually the battlefield gets covered with enough flames and he busts itachi's susanoo with Kirin. That or itachi eventually goes blind since edo tensei didn't prevent his eye from going blind after he used izanami.
In S2, his legged susanoo busts itachi's susanoo with its shinjuu cutting power.
People say sasuke will outlast when itachi's susano is better equiped, i don't see how EMS sasukes v4 stands a chance againt itachis v4 armed with yata and totsuka, the sheild repels sasukes arrows and other elemental attacks, while totsuka finishes him off, sasuke needs his legged susano or PS or whatever you wanna call it to beat itachi IMO, so no outlasting IMO
Itachi beats sasuke in both scenariors (in a battle of v4 susanos, itachi with those weapons beat sasuke more times than not)
Lmao Sasuke didn't push Itachi to jack. It's a manga fact that Itachi went soft serve on Sasuke.
I don't know why you think EMS Sasuke > Hebi Sasuke without the Sharingan here. Did Sasuke undergo some training without the Sharingan that I'm not aware of between Hebi and EMS? As far as I'm concerned, without Sharingan upgrades, EMS Sasuke and Hebi Sasuke have the same skillset.
Minato merks his ass without Sharingan. We already know that Minato's reactions are at LEAST comparable to Killer B's, and Killer B was merking Sasuke in Taijustu while Sasuke had his Sharingan.
