Edo Itachi vs Edo Madara

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Sorry for the essentially part, I got confused but still, your answer that it's just an hyperbole is pretty weak.

Look all I am saying is that with a good timing and surprise Itachi can pull it off. Amaterasu can counter the wood techs you mentionned and wood dragon can only absorb bijuu chakra until stated otherwise, you just can't go assuming things no matter how obvious u think they are. Edo Madara is the stronger one no doubt but Totsuka + yata can be itachi's trump cards
My answer that is a hyperbole is not weak, because Itachi is not invincible.

Amaterasu isn't burning through the whole Flower World before it puts Itachi to sleep.

Lol, where was it stated that it only absorbs Bijuu chakra? Nowhere. Mokuton has been shown to affect ALL chakra so the Wood Dragon can absorb ALL chakra as the Dragon is the same as all Mokuton except for the fact that it absorbs instead of suppressing chakra.

Or he can make 25 Susanoo clones top beat Itachi no diff, either way will work and it always be no-low diff.

Totsuka and Yata are useless against Madara. I already stated how he wins if you wanna deny it go ahead...doesn't change anything.
 

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Itachi can make 25 clones too, with 25 yata and totsuka... He's an edo jusy like madara. How is yata useless, how does Madara get through it ? He can summon is crow to get out of range of the forest until it burns too.

Wood dragon only absorbs bijuu chakra, madara didn't say anything about it absorbing any chakra. Check narutopedia or the chapters. As of now, that's fact.

Madara ''could'' lose, not because Itachi is stronger but because he doesn't know about yata or tostuka and how to handle them
 

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Itachi can make 25 clones too, with 25 yata and totsuka... He's an edo jusy like madara. How is yata useless, how does Madara get through it ? He can summon is crow to get out of range of the forest until it burns too.

Wood dragon only absorbs bijuu chakra, madara didn't say anything about it absorbing any chakra. Check narutopedia or the chapters. As of now, that's fact.

Madara ''could'' lose, not because Itachi is stronger but because he doesn't know about yata or tostuka and how to handle them
Nope, Madara said that he said it restrained the Kyuubi, not that it can only absorb Bijuu Chakra. So unless they say otherwise Wood Dragon can absorb chakra.

And Itachi can't make 25 Susanoo clones until he shows that he can.

Wood Dragon absorbs Susanoo..so those weapons are useless.
 

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Why can't edo Itachi make 25 clones ? Normal Itachi probably can't. We are talking about Edo itachi with unlimited chakra... Normal Madara probably can't make 25 clones too buddy. Those things cost a lot of chakra. The fact that he is an edo is why he hasn't lost already.

Go and read the article about the wood dragon, it's not long. Check the chapter 607 or 608 too. It can only absorbs bijuu chakra until stated otherwise.
 

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Why can't edo Itachi make 25 clones ? Normal Itachi probably can't. We are talking about Edo itachi with unlimited chakra... Normal Madara probably can't make 25 clones too buddy. Those things cost a lot of chakra. The fact that he is an edo is why he hasn't lost already.

Go and read the article about the wood dragon, it's not long. Check the chapter 607 or 608 too. It can only absorbs bijuu chakra until stated otherwise.
Edo doesn't increase your chakra reserves, it just makes it so your normal chakra reserves don't run out. Until Itachi makes 25 Susanoo clones, he can't do it.

I read the chapter, Manga>Wiki, Manga never said it can only absorb Bijuu chakra, and Mokuton affects all chakra so the Wood Dragon can absorb chakra.

25 Susanoo clones smash Itachi.

Wood Dragon+Flower Tree World from 25 Madaras also beats Itachi.

Heck, Wood Dragon isn't necessary, as Itachi isn't escaping 25 Flower Tree Worlds coming at him directly.
 

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Please man. Edos dont tire. They never run out of chakra. Check your facts. They have unlimited chakra. Madara himself said he has the perfect body with unlimited chakra.
Itachi counters 25 clones with his 25 clones. And take to the sky with his big crow when the flower word hits.
 

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Please man. Edos dont tire. They never run out of chakra. Check your facts. They have unlimited chakra. Madara himself said he has the perfect body with unlimited chakra.
Itachi counters 25 clones with his 25 clones. And take to the sky with his big crow when the flower word hits.
Lol, please don't tell me to check my facts when you obviously don't know what you're talking about.

If Madara had infinite chakra in the way you believe, he wouldn't need the Juubi's chakra to project his eyes on the moon.

Itachi cant counter anything, and he isn't going in the sky when Wood Dragon has tied him up, and Wood Dragon doesn't need to absorb the chakra, it just needs to keep him down for Flower World to hit.
 

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I wasn't trying to look down on you when I said ''check your facts''. It is true, Madara has unlimited chakra. Check narutopedia on edo tensei. That's why he could spam his jutsus and not break a sweat or did you think he did all those by himself ?

Wood dragon can be cut or burned. I admit it's a tough match for itachi but I only said he could win with a surprise attack with totsuka, not that he's stronger. I still stand by that.

Check the edo thing, it is true. Madara is just playing around
 

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I wasn't trying to look down on you when I said ''check your facts''. It is true, Madara has unlimited chakra. Check narutopedia on edo tensei. That's why he could spam his jutsus and not break a sweat or did you think he did all those by himself ?
No, I don't think you get what I'm saying..

Edo Madara chakra level=Alive Madara chakra level, but Edo Madara's doesn't run out

Wood dragon can be cut or burned. I admit it's a tough match for itachi but I only said he could win with a surprise attack with totsuka, not that he's stronger. I still stand by that.

Check the edo thing, it is true. Madara is just playing around
It can't be cut when its wrapped around him and even if he lights it on fire, it won't burn quick enough for Itachi to escape the Flower World.

But I guess everyone has their own opinion, well then I'm done here.
 

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I know they still have the same chakra level. Kakashi did more than 20 shadow clone in part 1 versus zabuza. Itachi can too.

But you are right it's my opinion vs yours and neither of us look like backing down soon. Guess we'll have to wait and make sure of the wood dragon absorbing power, resistance and strenght in the future
 

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Itachi makes 30 Susanoo clones they all stand on each others shoulders and jump off one at a time swinging totsukas at madara and hurling amaterasu everywhere while one clone sneaks up to Madara and puts him in Tsukiyomi while 10 Katons fall randomly from the sky towards Madara. Madara breaks Tsukiyomi activates PS and swings sword once destroying all clones, etc. he then grabs itachi and shoves him up PS's nose.
 

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Itachi doesnt even stand a chance. Yata mirror is only placed in the front, he is completely vulnerable at the back, underneath, above :D

Madara wont even have to whip out his wood dragon lol.
 

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So Madara got Mokuton (Hashi´s power) and the Juubi in this fight?
Well then Itachi also got Shisui´s eye.


= Itachi shits on Madara. One Kotoamatsukami and Madara ends up as Itachi´s bitch.



Even without KA you couldnt tell who would win. Itach is a master of genjutsu, he would even fool Madara long enough. He´s very skilled in crow/explosive clones too..its not like Madara can wrap a shitty Wooddragon around him to bind him LOL.
Anyways Totsuka eats Wooddragons for breakfast..one slash and its sealed, along with Madara and his perfect Susano´o.

Itachi´s biggest (and pretty much only) disadvantage was his low stamina and mid. chakra pool along with his lack of EMS. Edo Tensei gets rid of all these problems.
 

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Perfect Susanno owns Itachi's regular old MS Susanno, sad to say. Madara also has more combat experience and Mokuton to work with. Itachi has Genjutsu, which he says EMS can see through. Honestly I think Itachi is outclassed here. This dude summons comets and annihilated entire mountain ranges for his own amusement.
 
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