@FloriGlori, I agree, but an Edo Tensei doesn't feel pain. Also Amaterasu burns until it has burn the target to ashes and Edo Tenseis can recover themselves even out of ashes, I think.
@Shisui, yes but Kakashi is much faster with handling his Kamui now.
Totally agree with you. Amattersau is way more effective than kamui. Deidara is your example. Look how long it took kakashi to use kamui on deidara. He took long to focus nd in the end, he only managed to absorb his arm. If itachi used amaterasu on deidara he would've been eventually incinerated.
Against Deidara, he couldn't control the jutsu. He said it himself. Now Kamui can teleport much more faster. Just see how it did against Susanoo arrows, Pains nail(he did not even noticed it disappear. That shows how fast it was).
Also he can wipe away an entire human. He said it against Pain that he could have teleport Asura if he had more chakra. And he intented to teleport away Tobi.
Now that he is Edo, with infinite stamina, he will do it easily. Just see the difference in stamina between Itachi when he was alive(who had difficulties to cast MS jutsu without collapsing) and Edo Itachi who spams that all the day without any problem.
Some of the comments are rather funny.
Anyway common sense says itachi mid difficulty at best. Tbh i still dont understand why people make vs threads and include kakashi and itachi. They are in completely different leagues
Some of the comments are rather funny.
Anyway common sense says itachi mid difficulty at best. Tbh i still dont understand why people make vs threads and include kakashi and itachi. They are in completely different leagues
Such a post doesnt deserve a worth while answer. There are only a few characters whom when a vs thread is made concerning itachi i take my time, kakashi isnt one of them
Such a post doesnt deserve a worth while answer. There are only a few characters whom when a vs thread is made concerning itachi i take my time, kakashi isnt one of them
Kakashi is not one of them because he doesn't have stamina to take long against Itachi because Sharingan takes too much of his strenght. Itachi said that when they first fought in part1. But Kakashi improved as well since that time, and don't forget we're talking about Edo Kakashi. He has infinite chakra as well.
It won't be that easy as you think for Itachi for sure.
Kakashi is not one of them because he doesn't have stamina to take long against Itachi because Sharingan takes too much of his strenght. Itachi said that when they first fought in part1. But Kakashi improved as well since that time, and don't forget we're talking about Edo Kakashi. He has infinite chakra as well.
It won't be that easy as you think for Itachi for sure.
Since you have a hidden page to the manga that nobody else has, link me that page where it says edo tensei grants infinite chakra.
Secondly although edo tensei doesnt grant infinite chakra, if it does it benefits both.
Anyway need not bother replying because you clearly dont have an answer for my first question and if i was to take my time in this rather clear vs thread, you wouldnt have answers for what ill say.
Link me a chapter where it says edo grant infinite chakra then ill take my time with you
Since you have a hidden page to the manga that nobody else has, link me that page where it says edo tensei grants infinite chakra.
Secondly although edo tensei doesnt grant infinite chakra, if it does it benefits both.
Anyway need not bother replying because you clearly dont have an answer for my first question and if i was to take my time in this rather clear vs thread, you wouldnt have answers for what ill say.
Link me a chapter where it says edo grant infinite chakra then ill take my time with you
I don't even need a link to explain it. Just compare Itachi to Edo Itachi and you will see the difference.
In part1:
- One tsukiyomi against Kakashi and Kisame tells him not to abuse with his MS technics, and he is a little bit tired.
- One Amaterasu against Jiraya and he must stop using Sharingan and look a place to rest.
Now Edo Itachi:
- spamming Amaterasu against Nagatos summoning and him as well without collapsing
- Susanoo against Nagato with yasakani no magatama without even sweating.
- Another Amaterasu against a crow like it was nothing
- Spamming Susanoo since he fight now against Kabuto.
And he is still in perfect fit as if it was nothing.
Itachi alive could have never done such things.
I don't even need a link to explain it. Just compare Itachi to Edo Itachi and you will see the difference.
In part1:
- One tsukiyomi against Kakashi and Kisame tells him not to abuse with his MS technics, and he is a little bit tired.
- One Amaterasu against Jiraya and he must stop using Sharingan and look a place to rest.
Now Edo Itachi:
- spamming Amaterasu against Nagatos summoning and him as well without collapsing
- Susanoo against Nagato with yasakani no magatama without even sweating.
- Another Amaterasu against a crow like it was nothing
- Spamming Susanoo since he fight now against Kabuto.
And he is still in perfect fit as if it was nothing.
Itachi alive could have never done such things.
@Bogard, Itachi used Tsukuyomi twice then. In his fight with Sasuke, Itachi was although his sickness able to use Tsukuyomi, several times Amaterasu and Susanoo, not mentioned other things like his other Genjutsus and Katon.
Sorry but this is actually wrong.Show me the manga page which says that Edo Itachi = healthy Itachi.
Manga obviouselly disagree with you since Edo Itachi didn't even show a tiny sign of breathlessness after spaming and using all these jutsu which normally exhaust him.
Itachi part 1 when he was fine and didn't have slow movements like vs sasuke part 2
sharingan genjutsu
explosif bunshin
suiton jutsu 2 tsukiyomi
amaterasu
then he was exhausted and Kisame had to carry him .
Itachi 30%
crow genjutsu
Katon gokakyou
sharingan genjutsu
Itachi part 2 ,sick + greater chakra than part 1 according to his exhaustion after using amaterasu and tsukiyomi in part 1.
Not to mension that he was alerady exhausted before the first amaterasu.
Edo Itachi
1 katon goykakyou jutsu
1 shuriken housenka
1 crow genjutsu 3 amaterasu susanoo
1 yagamata
totsuka sword
sumoning susanoo vs sasuke
susanoo again vs kabuto magamata again
crow clone izanami
After all this,Edo Itachi didn't even show a tiny sign of breathlessness after spaming and using all these jutsu which normally exhaust him.
Even when Sasuke spammed all his MS jutsus,not only he was exhausted but he was healed 2-3 times and didn't even use more jutsus than what Edo Itachi used.
@FloriGlori, I agree, but an Edo Tensei doesn't feel pain. Also Amaterasu burns until it has burn the target to ashes and Edo Tenseis can recover themselves even out of ashes, I think.
@Shisui, yes but Kakashi is much faster with handling his Kamui now.
Do you think itachi isn't able to dodge kamui with just his speed alone?? Not only that if itachi turns his mangekyo activated he'll put kakashi in a genjutsu in no time. Then deja vu, kakshi gets raped in tsukyomi once again.
Sorry but this is actually wrong.Show me the manga page which says that Edo Itachi = healthy Itachi.
Manga obviouselly disagree with you since Edo Itachi didn't even show a tiny sign of breathlessness after spaming and using all these jutsu which normally exhaust him.
Itachi part 1 when he was fine and didn't have slow movements like vs sasuke part 2
sharingan genjutsu
explosif bunshin
suiton jutsu 2 tsukiyomi
amaterasu
then he was exhausted and Kisame had to carry him .
Itachi 30%
crow genjutsu
Katon gokakyou
sharingan genjutsu
Itachi part 2 ,sick + greater chakra than part 1 according to his exhaustion after using amaterasu and tsukiyomi in part 1.
Not to mension that he was alerady exhausted before the first amaterasu.
Edo Itachi
1 katon goykakyou jutsu
1 shuriken housenka
1 crow genjutsu 3 amaterasu susanoo
1 yagamata
totsuka sword
sumoning susanoo vs sasuke
susanoo again vs kabuto magamata again
crow clone izanami
After all this,Edo Itachi didn't even show a tiny sign of breathlessness after spaming and using all these jutsu which normally exhaust him.
Even when Sasuke spammed all his MS jutsus,not only he was exhausted but he was healed 2-3 times and didn't even use more jutsus than what Edo Itachi used.
First of all this argument is epic failure at its best and this thread isnt a thread were id like to go into complete detail because ive every intention on creating a thread later this week, definitely.
All youve said in this argument is based your decision on itachi and itachi alone but also compared itachi in his sick state to edo tensei. If you were to actually look at the edo ninja's, specifically the 3rd raikage, mu and the 2nd mizukage youd find your answer that edo in deed doesnt grant infinite chakra. If you were to look at how edo tensei works and the composition of chakra which is both physical and spiritual enegry you'd come to the conclusion that edo tensei doesnt grant infinite chakra.
Secondly you have compared him to his sick state and in that case obviously edo itachi > sick itachi. That is common sense. What im telling you is that edo itachi = healthy itachi. If you look at kimimmaro he was healthy when he was an edo yet sick in real life.
It seems you think edo itachi = sick itachi + infinite chakra, but if that was the case no matter how much chakra he has, he would still show clear sighs of his illness and this is his lack of movement and coughing up of blood, yet we do not see any form of lack of movement after he evaded bee's kenjutsu, blitz behind him and evaded both bee and naruto's attack. Also we never saw any sighs of coughing up blood. Clearly this isnt itachi in his sick state but rather in his healthy state.
Seems like a lot of people think itachi naturally has a low chakra reserve which has nothing to do with his illness, but that is false. His low chakra when he was alive has everything with his illness.
Draw, both can not "kill" eachother. It all comes down to sealing. Kakashi could kumi him which would count as a "seal" since hes trapped in another dimension, and the same can be said for the sword of totsuka.
Draw
