Edo Itachi vs Edo Bm Minato

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Please christ can this not become a hot thread. Not in 2017.

 

[Sparks]

...This question is as old as the base itself.

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The time-honored matchup.

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[DrProof]

edo itachi doesn't have ka.
minato can camp in bm and clones deal with clones.

Edo Itachi does have KA. It's present inside of the crow, if we're utilizing his entire arsenal, it's perfectly valid.

Minato's not getting through V4 Susano'o unless he uses TBB. And Yata Mirror > TBB with Edo Itachi's edo reserves, so he'll be able to keep the shield up.

Clones are kept at bay with Totsuka swings. Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu, and Susano'o can be used through crow clones as well.

Edo Itachi doesn't lose this. His arsenal is entirely too broken with infinite reserves.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Minato knows Itachi is an Uchiha, that's well enough to know not to look into his eyes. Plus, he can easily keep a Shadow Clone out in case he is caught.

He knew the masked man was an uchiha too, yet he still looked directly into his eyes. The only person that can fight without making eye contact is Might Gai, so that's why other skilled shinobi's rely on shadow clone to aid.

But given his chakra reserves in edo bm being able to create one shadow clone and itachi being able to create multiple crow clones. How long do you think it's gonna last?

 

[Guntah]

He knew the masked man was an uchiha too, yet he still looked directly into his eyes. The only person that can fight without making eye contact is Might Gai, so that's why other skilled shinobi's rely on shadow clone to aid.

But given his chakra reserves in edo bm being able to create one shadow clone and itachi being able to create multiple crow clones. How long do you think it's gonna last?

Okay, fair point, but who the hell said Minato is able to create one Shadow Clone? I mean, he did only ever create one once, and its not like he'd really need any more, clones ain't gonna win anyone this fight, but do you really think with Kurama's reserves backing him up he could create only one clone? I mean, this whole thing aside, that's just a stupid presumption.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

So essentially it's a camp out match on who gets bored first -_-

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Edo Itachi does have KA. It's present inside of the crow, if we're utilizing his entire arsenal, it's perfectly valid.

which is in naruto's possession already programmed.

Minato's not getting through V4 Susano'o unless he uses TBB. And Yata Mirror > TBB with Edo Itachi's edo reserves, so he'll be able to keep the shield up.

Ftg teleports susanno

Clones are kept at bay with Totsuka swings. Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu, and Susano'o can be used through crow clones as well.

itachi even in edo does not have the reserves to support the above.

Edo Itachi doesn't lose this. His arsenal is entirely too broken with infinite reserves.

Edo's don't have infinite reserves.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

So essentially it's a camp out match on who gets bored first -_-

Totally. And if alive, who drains themselves of chakra first. (Itachi)

 

[DrProof]

which is in naruto's possession already programmed.

Ftg teleports susanno

itachi even in edo does not have the reserves to support the above.


Edo's don't have infinite reserves.

Being programmed into Naruto =/= possession of Itachi's arsenal. The crow was inside of Itachi originally, so he has KA, and arguing against the notion KA is in his arsenal is asinine.

FTG teleporting Susano'o? :lol so Minato teleports the chakra, and Itachi makes a new one.

Uh, yes he does. He used Susano'o with a crow clone against Kabuto lol.

Infinite/unlimited. Edo reserves don't run out.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Being programmed into Naruto =/= possession of Itachi's arsenal. The crow was inside of Itachi originally, so he has KA, and arguing against the notion KA is in his arsenal is asinine.

Doesn't matter. He didn't have it when he died. Therefore he doesn't have it as an edo tensei. Its like saying edo sasori has his puppets. He doesn't.

FTG teleporting Susano'o? :lol so Minato teleports the chakra, and Itachi makes a new one.

itachi gets hit with an attack, before he puts the nest one up.

Uh, yes he does. He used Susano'o with a crow clone against Kabuto lol.

scan, of his close using susanoo.

Infinite/unlimited. Edo reserves don't run out.

Its a finite amount that refills, said amount is limited to your living capabilities Both Muu and gengetsu prove that.

 

[enditallsin]

Minato wins any scenario and he doesn't need bm.Itachi has NO way to confront minato reflexes.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Okay, fair point, but who the hell said Minato is able to create one Shadow Clone? I mean, he did only ever create one once, and its not like he'd really need any more, clones ain't gonna win anyone this fight, but do you really think with Kurama's reserves backing him up he could create only one clone? I mean, this whole thing aside, that's just a stupid presumption.

He was only able to create one shadow clone with kcm while tobirama was limited to two as well in edo tensei form. Kcm was kinda pointless considering that edo tensei supplies you with endless chakra anyway, but having it raised his reserves or 'gauge' only slightly. So even though he was constantly replenishing in edo tensei because it was unlimited, his gauge of chakra was still nowhere near more than enough to produce as much shadow clones as

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So you see that unlimited amount of chakra doesn't mean a thing even with the kyubi, solid shadow clones require a hefty amount stamina to create them. And if you lack that amount of physical energy, your clones will just be

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to deliver physical damage. So to make a solid clone with kyubi chakra is just one.

Granted that the barrier was involved, in combat when he's invoking ftg combination he's

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Now imagine him alive. He uses one shadow clone he'll be at half energy because he's no senju/uzamaki. How will he deal with Itachi's shuriken jutsu or kunai vital hits that can target even blind spots?

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I'm not saying Minato doesn't put up a fighting chance but from what we gather here, shadow clone jutsu is just throwing away chakra plus stamina and it's out of option here, correct?

So minato has ftg, rasengan, and toad summoning to deal with Itachi. How does that work?

 

[Hit The Legendary Assassi]

BM Minato is a ET feat. so Itachi can't beat him anyway.

Guess you're dumb my thread is edo itachi vs edo minato both are edo summons moron and both have sealing jutsu that seal or bind souls...your whole post is countered try again stupid

 

[BenjerminGaye]

He was only able to create one shadow clone with kcm while tobirama was limited to two as well in edo tensei form. Kcm was kinda pointless considering that edo tensei supplies you with endless chakra anyway, but having it raised his reserves or 'gauge' only slightly. So even though he was constantly replenishing in edo tensei because it was unlimited, his gauge of chakra was still nowhere near more than enough to produce as much shadow clones as

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So you see that unlimited amount of chakra doesn't mean a thing even with the kyubi, solid shadow clones require a hefty amount stamina to create them. And if you lack that amount of physical energy, your clones will just be

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to deliver physical damage. So to make a solid clone with kyubi chakra is just one.

Granted that the barrier was involved, in combat when he's invoking ftg combination he's

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Now imagine him alive. He uses one shadow clone he'll be at half energy because he's no senju/uzamaki. How will he deal with Itachi's shuriken jutsu or kunai vital hits that can target even blind spots?

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I'm not saying Minato doesn't put up a fighting chance but from what we gather here, shadow clone jutsu is just throwing away chakra plus stamina and it's out of option here, correct?

So minato has ftg, rasengan, and toad summoning to deal with Itachi. How does that work?

scan of minato saying his limit is 1 shadow clone. I'll wait.

 

[Hit The Legendary Assassi]

Lol, the blind-sighted hypocrisy in this post tho

No hypocrisy at all. I stated i was pro itachi in the op and i listed minato paths to victory based on manga feats only not hype and he wins his battles with ftg blitzes and combos with other jutsus and i listed itachi counter to minato common clear path to victory

 

[Guntah]

He was only able to create one shadow clone with kcm while tobirama was limited to two as well in edo tensei form. Kcm was kinda pointless considering that edo tensei supplies you with endless chakra anyway, but having it raised his reserves or 'gauge' only slightly. So even though he was constantly replenishing in edo tensei because it was unlimited, his gauge of chakra was still nowhere near more than enough to produce as much shadow clones as

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.

So you see that unlimited amount of chakra doesn't mean a thing even with the kyubi, solid shadow clones require a hefty amount stamina to create them. And if you lack that amount of physical energy, your clones will just be

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to deliver physical damage. So to make a solid clone with kyubi chakra is just one.

Granted that the barrier was involved, in combat when he's invoking ftg combination he's

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.

Now imagine him alive. He uses one shadow clone he'll be at half energy because he's no senju/uzamaki. How will he deal with Itachi's shuriken jutsu or kunai vital hits that can target even blind spots?

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I'm not saying Minato doesn't put up a fighting chance but from what we gather here, shadow clone jutsu is just throwing away chakra plus stamina and it's out of option here, correct?

So minato has ftg, rasengan, and toad summoning to deal with Itachi. How does that work?

Are you serious? Minato summoned Gamabunta in one go, and that was after fighting off Obito and teleporting an entire Bijuudama away, and after that he still had enough chakra to seal Kurama into Naruto and use the Dead Demon Consuming Seal. His stamina feats far outweigh anything Itachi has ever shown. His chakra reserves are no joke. But that's not the main point, Shadow Clones would barely matter in a fight if the two were alive as you said.

Even if you take into account the Sharingan, Minato's reaction speed is miles above Itachi's in terms of feats. He reacted to Ay himself at full speed, after all. Shuriken, aimed at his vitals or not, would barely be a problem. Don't forget, Minato's whole style is about spreading out kunai throughout the battlefield before he even steps in to fight.

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There is no way Itachi would catch him unprepared before he can teleport away, especially when the big deal behind Itachi's shurikenjutsu is that he can redirect his shuriken in a way where they land exactly where he wants them to land. Its a very calculated and precise move, but it doesn't really matter when he has no idea where Minato will pop up next.

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[Hit The Legendary Assassi]

Manga fact: Black Zetsu has seen and recorded every battle in history yet despite seeing kaguya his mother and so6p and indra and ashura and hashirama and madara and minato and etc deemed itachi invincible with his arsenal. We all know that to have been false due to bz saying it prematurely because itachi was terminally ill so thus cannot be invincible but my thread is the edo version that means no physical set backs he had in his actual life and that statement bz made actually becomes valid now.

Edo itachi can spam susano and keep it active as long as he needs to that means yata and totsuka combo for entire battle. That means tsukoyami spam and amaterasu spam and clone spam. Yata and totsuka makes itachi invincible he literally cannot be touched with them active as a edo

 

[Guntah]

Manga fact: Black Zetsu has seen and recorded every battle in history yet despite seeing kaguya his mother and so6p and indra and ashura and hashirama and madara and minato and etc deemed itachi invincible with his arsenal. We all know that to have been false due to bz saying it prematurely because itachi was terminally ill so thus cannot be invincible but my thread is the edo version that means no physical set backs he had in his actual life and that statement bz made actually becomes valid now.

Black Zetsu in that same fight didn't know what the hell a Susanoo was.

Like, seriously, it doesn't make his statement any less canon than it was, its written on paper by the author himself, and its not like its the only plot hole in this series, but people rely far too heavily on it.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

Manga fact: Black Zetsu has seen and recorded every battle in history yet despite seeing kaguya his mother and so6p and indra and ashura and hashirama and madara and minato and etc deemed itachi invincible with his arsenal. We all know that to have been false due to bz saying it prematurely because itachi was terminally ill so thus cannot be invincible but my thread is the edo version that means no physical set backs he had in his actual life and that statement bz made actually becomes valid now.

Edo itachi can spam susano and keep it active as long as he needs to that means yata and totsuka combo for entire battle. That means tsukoyami spam and amaterasu spam and clone spam. Yata and totsuka makes itachi invincible he literally cannot be touched with them active as a edo

Your not really understanding how the "infinite chakra" of an edo works are you

 

[Hit The Legendary Assassi]

Are you serious? Minato summoned Gamabunta in one go, and that was after fighting off Obito and teleporting an entire Bijuudama away, and after that he still had enough chakra to seal Kurama into Naruto and use the Dead Demon Consuming Seal. His stamina feats far outweigh anything Itachi has ever shown. His chakra reserves are no joke. But that's not the main point, Shadow Clones would barely matter in a fight if the two were alive as you said.

Even if you take into account the Sharingan, Minato's reaction speed is miles above Itachi's in terms of feats. He reacted to Ay himself at full speed, after all. Shuriken, aimed at his vitals or not, would barely be a problem. Don't forget, Minato's whole style is about spreading out kunai throughout the battlefield before he even steps in to fight.

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There is no way Itachi would catch him unprepared before he can teleport away, especially when the big deal behind Itachi's shurikenjutsu is that he can redirect his shuriken in a way where they land exactly where he wants them to land. Its a very calculated and precise move, but it doesn't really matter when he has no idea where Minato will pop up next.

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You really didnt counter but I'll body what you put down anyway.

The chakra reserves dont really matter as an edo summon so minato having higher reserves alive as opposed to itachi means literally nothing at all yes edo dont have infinte chakra but even so with the ability to regenerate chakra as edo itachi can keep up all his taxing jutsus much more longer and even his alive version typically one shotted opponents after just one use of his jutsus so imagine being able to spam his abilities.

Fail again alive deathbed itachi was able to react to oro absorbed sasuke who the databooks states speed is godlike and edo version itachi reacts to and counters kcm naruto who manga states and shows speed to be on par or even surpasses the ftg speed...so what are you saying


The thing is with the multiple ftg tagged kunai you acknowledged itachi skill with projectile weapons which is by far the best yet downplay it at the same time. I mean lets go back to itachi vs sasuke fight sasuke knowing his brother is the weapons throwing champion decided and needed a summoning jutsu to compete with itachi throwing speed sasuke literally used summoning jutsu lightning flash bang which he basically summons inifinite shuriken shot out of the summoning band on his arm like a uzi yet itachi matched that lightning speed with pure hands speed and of course accuracy because he never got hit and he was just defending so you dont think as fast as minato can scatter the ftg kunai itachi cant throw shuriken to knocked them away from just being able to outflank him? Hell yes he can like i said itachi vs sasuke proves this and that was only one way to counter to ftg kunai when he can just use susano and shoot magatama at the ground to disperse the ftg kunais

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