Edo Itachi v.s. Edo naguto

Inert Brian

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Anyway, Nagato cant get Itachi in susanoo for a soul suck, so he will eventually be hit with Totsuka.
THANK YOU!!!!! ^

Kabuto already stated he lacked mobility and that's why he lost.

If Nagato summons for mobility then Amaterasu will take all of his summons out like he took out the bird and dog-hydra summoning.


I see "Nagato mid difficulty' but there are no reasons given.

Rep for you my friend.
 

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Lol, not even wanking.

What says Itachi can't destroy the central orb with Magtamas alone?Since he's an edo he can spam that all he wants? Itachi was simply giving KCM Naruto and Bee a lesson in jutsu analysis. Yea it's possible magatamas couldn't destroy it alone, but nothing claims it couldn't.
The fact that Itachi needed help pretty much spells out that he can't do it alone. Nothing more to it.

Magatama created small explosions on the surface o Kabuto's cave, those aren't piercing the rock around the orb and destroying it. No way.

Not to mention CT isn't even needed against Itachi.

What did Killer Bee and Naruto really do to contribute that fight? Oh, one was getting his soul ripped out while the other was about to get blasted in the face.
Hmm, how about helping him destroy CT? Or are you conveniently leave that part out? :rolleyes:

Itachi made those two seem like novice fighters.
That's why he destroyed CT on his own amirite?

Oh, and Kabuto even states why Nagato lost. He said he lacked mobility. Itachi simply took advantage of that and won.
Read above.

Sorry, Itachi 90% solo'd him.
Dafuq? Its either he beat him alone or he didn't. There is no 90%.

EDIT: I find irony in being called an Itachi wanker while Itachi was the one who took him out in a chapter. While saving Naruto and Bee on top of that + He countered Nagato's best tech + Kabuto even explains why he lost.
You wank because you purposely left out the parts where Itachi needed help. You wank because you say Itachi solo'd him even though the manga shows otherwise.
 

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Depends on two things:
1. Whether or not Nagato can absorb the Totsuka Blade as well as well as the Yata Mirror.
2. Whether or not Itachi's genjutsu is effective on Nagato.
If Itachi's attacks are effective in both cases, he takes this mid diff.
If one of the two is in favor for Nagato, then both have their chances, but Nagato is likely to come out with mid diff.
If both are in favor for Nagato, then Nagato low-mid diff.
 

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The fact that Itachi needed help pretty much spells out that he can't do it alone. Nothing more to it.

Magatama created small explosions on the surface o Kabuto's cave, those aren't piercing the rock around the orb and destroying it. No way.

Not to mention CT isn't even needed against Itachi.


Hmm, how about helping him destroy CT? Or are you conveniently leave that part out? :rolleyes:


That's why he destroyed CT on his own amirite?


Read above.


Dafuq? Its either he beat him alone or he didn't. There is no 90%.


You wank because you purposely left out the parts where Itachi needed help. You wank because you say Itachi solo'd him even though the manga shows otherwise.
The wank is strong with this one, kid run! He has a wank saber!
 

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As I said before, Itachi was simply giving Killer Bee and KCM Naruto a lesson in jutsu analysis.

He was trying to explain to them how the strongest of jutsus can be countered, that's why he had them do it as well. Fair enough he could have asked for aid because he felt magatamas weren't enough and it was simply a safety caution, but at the end of the day it's all speculation. How could anyone know if it would/wouldn't work alone? It only makes logical sense to play it safely instead of having the jinchurikis get trapped...

Look at Madara's magatamas...it took the combined effort of Oonoki and Gaara's defense to stop it...

Itachi is an edo tensei, he can spam magatama as much as he pleases, hell if it really came down to it he could just slice the core with susano'o because it's not like CT will kill him lol, he is an edo after all. But he still had KCM Naruto and Bee at his side who were living.

Instead of saying i'm a wanker, why don't you make an argument for Nagato? At least i'm making an argument for Itachi instead of saying "lul Itachi s0l0s"

Best jutsu in Nagato's arsenal was countered, analyzed the rinnegan's vision, took down arguably the best summoning Nagato has which is the hydra-dog, and the bird which gives him mobility. Kabuto even states that there is a reason why he lost, because he lacked mobility which made him prone to Totsuka?

^ I give all of the above yet i'm a wanker? Disgusting.

EDIT: I'd like an intelligent debate, I didn't come to this thread to reply to put downs that make me a wanker for the other side because I disagree.

If you prove me wrong then i'll cede my argument and rep. If you've seen me enough on these forums i've done it before. If you go on the Itachi vs Paths of pain thread I said Tsukuyomi could potentially 1 shot Nagato bc of linked vision. Someone replied (without calling me a wanker ^^) showing why Tsukuyomi wouldn't work. Guess what? I said I agreed with him and repped him for it.
 
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As I said before, Itachi was simply giving Killer Bee and KCM Naruto a lesson in jutsu analysis.
If that was the case,, Itachi wouldve jus told them rather then ask them to use their strongest justsus such as FRS & TBB
He was trying to explain to them how the strongest of jutsus can be countered, that's why he had them do it as well. Fair enough he could have asked for aid because he felt magatamas weren't enough and it was simply a safety caution, but at the end of the day it's all speculation. How could anyone know if it would/wouldn't work alone? It only makes logical sense to play it safely instead of having the jinchurikis get trapped...
Itachi did technically ask for aid,,,,and its not really speculation seeing that itachis strongest YM,, isnt portrayed or has the feats to destroy something as large as CT
Itachi is an edo tensei, he can spam magatama as much as he pleases, hell if it really came down to it he could just slice the core with susano'o because it's not like CT will kill him lol, he is an edo after all. But he still had KCM Naruto and Bee at his side who were living.
Nagato is an edo tensei too,, he can spam his moves as welll,,,regardless of the interval,,, he doesnt only rely on devas power seeing as how he managed to overwhelm and nearly kill KCM Naruto & Bee through Human and Asura alone,,,,
I dont know why ur only using CT as an argument,,, u shud take other considerations as well
Instead of saying i'm a wanker, why don't you make an argument for Nagato? At least i'm making an argument for Itachi instead of saying "lul Itachi s0l0s"
Ur Making an argument,, however ur ignoring everything in Nagatos arsenal and only talking about CT,,, when he has much more,,,and many moves to counter itachis
Best jutsu in Nagato's arsenal was countered, analyzed the rinnegan's vision, took down arguably the best summoning Nagato has which is the hydra-dog, and the bird which gives him mobility. Kabuto even states that there is a reason why he lost, because he lacked mobility which made him prone to Totsuka?
Dont use the Naruto, Bee and Itachi vs Nagato fight,, since there were alot of discrepencies in that fight,,,
A-Nagato didnt want to fight them half of the fight,,
B-Nagato was controlled by Kabuto, who himself admitted that he couldnt use him properly,,,
C-Plot itself was an issue since Kishi needed itachi to change sasukes views,, and naruto and bee to proceed aheead in-order to fight tobi,, and madara
EDIT: I'd like an intelligent debate, I didn't come to this thread to reply to put downs that make me a wanker for the other side because I disagree.

If you prove me wrong then i'll cede my argument and rep. If you've seen me enough on these forums i've done it before. If you go on the Itachi vs Paths of pain thread I said Tsukuyomi could potentially 1 shot Nagato bc of linked vision. Someone replied (without calling me a wanker ^^) showing why Tsukuyomi wouldn't work. Guess what? I said I agreed with him and repped him for it.
Alright,,, then ill state why nagato wins since he counters all of itachis arsenal,,,
-Amaterasu is absorbed effortlessly by preta,, futhermore nagato can sense it as he did in canon and keep the preta barrier up,,
-Susanoos YM,, and susanoo itself is absorbed by preta as well,, as it will then allow nagato to effectively attack itachi,,,
-Itachi also lacks the legged susanoo variants thereby allowing nagato to use BT and possibly finish itachi off with human or chakra rods,,,etc,,, (whilst itachi is getting pulled by BT,, he lacks an efficient way to attack nagato since nagato has shown that he can use multiple paths at a time,, and will simply absorb itachis ninjutsu based MS techniques,,,,
-An ordinary ST from nagato destroyed an entire foresst,,, nagato can use a boss sized ST along with shurado missiles and animal summons,,, as well,,,
-CT is still beating itachi,,, Yasaka lacks the firepower to destroy the CT core,,,, a CT orb wiithout even forming properly tanked a KN6 TBB and still managed to subdue it,, till it went to KN8,,,,
-Itachi wont get the time to disrupt the linked vision seeing as how he cant have appropriate diversions that naruto and bee gave,,
-Itachi would be constantly on the defensive and would struggle to even land a hit since all his MS techniques are mostly ninjutsu orientated which is comfortably absorbed,,,
-as for the totsuka blade,, nagato is a sensor and would know that the attack is coming,, he can use ST to deflecct the blade away,,,
-Since ninjutsu and genjuts are out of the quesiton,, all itachi really has to attack nagato with is taijutsu,, which is also suicide due too human and asura path,, which will always give nagato the advantage due to extra limbs and armor from asura and the danger of getting touched from ningendo,,,,

Nagato wins this mid diff
 

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As I said before, Itachi was simply giving Killer Bee and KCM Naruto a lesson in jutsu analysis.
Your interpretation and nothing else. In fact NOTHING implies this, at all. Just more of your nonsense.

He was trying to explain to them how the strongest of jutsus can be countered, that's why he had them do it as well. Fair enough he could have asked for aid because he felt magatamas weren't enough and it was simply a safety caution, but at the end of the day it's all speculation. How could anyone know if it would/wouldn't work alone? It only makes logical sense to play it safely instead of having the jinchurikis get trapped...
Wrong, he told them how to counter it, but that doesn't change the fact he needed help to counter it. The fact the manga showed him getting helped means he couldn't have done it on his own. The fact that Magatama barely destroyed the ceiling of Kabuto's cave means that its not getting through to CT's core.

Look at Madara's magatamas...it took the combined effort of Oonoki and Gaara's defense to stop it...
Madara and Itachi aren't the same person, nor are Itachi's Magatama as strong as Madara's.

Itachi is an edo tensei, he can spam magatama as much as he pleases, hell if it really came down to it he could just slice the core with susano'o because it's not like CT will kill him lol, he is an edo after all. But he still had KCM Naruto and Bee at his side who were living.
Irrelevant if he can spam Magatama. His Magatama have 3 on one string, and those 3 individually did to Kabuto's cave. They aren't doing shit to Chibaku Tensei.

Lol? How in the world is he going to slice the core with Susanoo when his Susanoo can't even reach the core? If you mean he'll slice it when he gets trapped, then please tell me how his Susanoo is going to move when it is encased in CT? Though you shouldn't bother since anyone with common sense knows that he won't. He'll be trapped and that's the end of the match. It doesn't matter if he lives or nto.

Instead of saying i'm a wanker, why don't you make an argument for Nagato? At least i'm making an argument for Itachi instead of saying "lul Itachi s0l0s"
I could make an argument, but I'm countering yours, so I'll make one when I'm done....if I feel like it. Either way, making one or countering one..it'll lead to the same exact result.....you realizing that you only spout BS.

Best jutsu in Nagato's arsenal was countered, analyzed the rinnegan's vision, took down arguably the best summoning Nagato has which is the hydra-dog, and the bird which gives him mobility. Kabuto even states that there is a reason why he lost, because he lacked mobility which made him prone to Totsuka?
Read the manga. Itachi had help, and denying that is what makes you a wanker. You don't deny what was shown in the manga. Period.


Put Nagato alone against Itachi and this is what he doesn't have going for him.

-Chibaku Tensei, as Magatama are not strong enough to destroy it, and he needed help to destroy it in the manga.

-Amaterasu is a non factor since it can be sensed and absorbed.

-Totsuka and Yata are apart of Itachi's Susanoo, which is formed via his chakra, so he can still absorb it if need be, once Susanoo is gone, its GG Itachi.

-Or Chou Shinra Tensei, which will destroy Itachi's Susanoo allowing Nagato to take out his soul.

Itachi doesn't stand a chance.
 

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If Itachi had to fiqht nagato, he kud win. Granted it miqht kost him much. If Itachi is not in the death zone. He mostly likely always lose. My opinion anyway
 

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Knowing itachi it could go either way depending on the situation and itachi could beat nagato if he is careful and cautious which he is always. but nagato would most likely win however :T
 
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Lol, not even wanking.

What says Itachi can't destroy the central orb with Magtamas alone?Since he's an edo he can spam that all he wants? Itachi was simply giving KCM Naruto and Bee a lesson in jutsu analysis. Yea it's possible magatamas couldn't destroy it alone, but nothing claims it couldn't.

What did Killer Bee and Naruto really do to contribute that fight? Oh, one was getting his soul ripped out while the other was about to get blasted in the face.

Itachi made those two seem like novice fighters.

Oh, and Kabuto even states why Nagato lost. He said he lacked mobility. Itachi simply took advantage of that and won.

Sorry, Itachi 90% solo'd him.

EDIT: I find irony in being called an Itachi wanker while Itachi was the one who took him out in a chapter. While saving Naruto and Bee on top of that + He countered Nagato's best tech + Kabuto even explains why he lost.

Yet i'm a wanker. :'(
soo true I agree with everything people claim that Itachi needed bee and naruto help obviously they needed to attack together just in case as long as you hit that's black sphere even with a rasenshiruken it's over Nagato would get wrecked I'm not an itachi fanboy but this fight is obvious
 

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Edo Itachi wins. The only means of Nagato winning is Human path which he would have to get close to Itachi which means Totsuka can get Nagato before Nagato can get Itachi.
 

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A crippled Edo Nagato was throwing a KMC Naruto around like a rag doll, then in an almost fully healthy state he rag dolled Killer Bee and Naruto around with just three paths. Nagato in his crippled Edo state was Kabuto's second strongest Edo.
Crippled alive Nagato was the single most strongest member of the Akatsuki. Itachi is nothing to him. Itachi has nothing to use against Planetary Devastation. Itachi wont even get time to use Susanno.
Crippled Nagato mid end high diff. Almost fully healthy Nagato low end mid diff. Completely healthy Nagato no diff.
 
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