Edo Hiruzen vs Kakuzu

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Location: Naruto vs Pain

Distance: Same as it is here. [ ]

Intel: Manga

Restrictions: Edo Regeneration.
 

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You handicapped Hiruzen though. No Edo regeneration means no chakra regeneration and no physical renegeration. Edos are already noticeably weaker than their real selves. Kakuzu beats this Hiruzen, but alive Hiruzen wins mid difficulty.
 

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You handicapped Hiruzen though. No Edo regeneration means no chakra regeneration and no physical renegeration. Edos are already noticeably weaker than their real selves. Kakuzu beats this Hiruzen, but alive Hiruzen wins mid difficulty.
I only meant Physical Regeneration, and Hiruzen's Edo Feats are superior to his Alive Feats considering his Alive Feats were from Part 1. Not to mention Hiruzen wins this with his Edo Feats alone.
 

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I only meant Physical Regeneration, and Hiruzen's Edo Feats are superior to his Alive Feats considering his Alive Feats were from Part 1. Not to mention Hiruzen wins this with his Edo Feats alone.
But you see an Edo can only preform what he/she could preform in their actual lives so Edo Hiruzen feats are technically Part 1 Hiruzen feats as well. Okay, so no physical regeneration. Hmm, Hiruzen takes this low difficulty then.

"Awaits Zexion........."
 

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If intel is manga then Kakuzu potentially takes this.

Considering Kakuzu is a bounty hunter, and even fought Hashi. It would be no surprise if Kakuzu was aware that Hiruzen had mastered leaf jutsu. He was revered as the [3rd] god of shinobi after all.

On the other hand, Kakuzu is a nobody to Hiruzen really. Hiruzen wouldn't know what he can do. Hiruzen was widely known, Kakuzu wasn't.

...If that was the case, Kakuzu would get his hearts out immediately (no dicking around). Hiruzen would be confused as to what was going on, and the hearts would overwhelm Hiruzen. Initially he would react by summoning Enma, but is Enma's cage really defending against all of the hearts?

On paper Hiruzen wins, and if intel was full then Hiruzen would of course take this. But I see intel going in Kakuzu's favor here.

Btw i'm giving Kakuzu an argument so it's not Zex vs Narutobase lol.
 

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I take it that Edo chakra regeneration is allowed? Hiruzen wins this medium to high difficulties. He has everything Kakuzu has and more in the offensive department. His shadow clones can use larger scale ninjutsu than kakuzu's masks can, and can use all five elements. Kakuzu only has a better defensive in the form of Domu, which doesn't matter thanks to Hiruzen's ability to use large scaled raiton.
 

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But you see an Edo can only preform what he/she could preform in their actual lives so Edo Hiruzen feats are technically Part 1 Hiruzen feats as well. Okay, so no physical regeneration. Hmm, Hiruzen takes this low difficulty then.

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Alive hiruzen wouldnt be able to pull off what Edo hiruzen said ( clones and using 5 elements ) due to his living old frail body, so while a alive hiruzen can do the same thing as edo hiruzen he cant due to his old body.

Hiruzen in this sense is stronger in edo form right?
 

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What is this nonsense, Hiruzen's jutsu are pitiful XD

Nothing but one dimensional firings of Elements.

Kakuzu's jutsu clearly have depth to them, Not to mention he can fire them quicker and from mid-air U_U Kakuzu has the advantage if his elements hit a stalemate due to his Earth Hardening Jutsu and his threads benefiting his CQC

Manga Intel? Hiruzen has no reason to prep 4 shadow clones and prepare to counter elements U_U If Kakuzu uses his Fuuton + Katon combo, and Hiruzen has no clones out, He has absolutely no counter, as he can't use 2 elements as fluently as Kakuzu.

Honestly Clones Aren't even Hiruzen's main source of attack, Kakuzu can end this quick enough so that what his elements are don't even matter
 

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this is actually the ''worst match-up'' thread I've ever seen.

Kakuzu cant beat Hiruzen since he loses the elemental advantage. sandaime wins very, very low diff
 

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Lml What elemental advantage does Hiruzen possibly have? We don't even know how strong his jutsu are?

Size doesn't mean shit as Kakuzu learned the hard way

Jesus this old fart is overrated?
 

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Lml What elemental advantage does Hiruzen possibly have? We don't even know how strong his jutsu are?

Size doesn't mean shit as Kakuzu learned the hard way

Jesus this old fart is overrated?
clones are _his main attack method, whether its clones of his staff, his shurikens or himself

_his advantage is based on kakuzu only being able to use 1 element per heart while hiruzen clones can switch to the opposing element.
 

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Lml What elemental advantage does Hiruzen possibly have? We don't even know how strong his jutsu are?

Size doesn't mean shit as Kakuzu learned the hard way

Jesus this old fart is overrated?
it must be worst for you because people think hiruzen can > your fav without the hype i feel for you but i agree kakuzu can win his speed could give the advantage
 

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Lol Kakazu and hurizen r kinda similar with the elements thing but Kakazu unleashes them faster

But he doesn't have sealing tech so I guess hurizen wins

It was alive going by feats hurizen would've gotten mid diff
 

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Hiruzen's clones shit on the masks, he uses his clones to attack the enemy as noted by orochimaru

Even Tenten stomped the lightning mask and Hiruzen's wind jutsu is equal or bigger than hers

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clones are _his main attack method, whether its clones of his staff, his shurikens or himself

_his advantage is based on kakuzu only being able to use 1 element per heart while hiruzen clones can switch to the opposing element.
What are you saying? Kakuzu's hearts Can Stick Together? And No Hiruzen Can't stop halfway in a jutsu and switch to a counter measure? Especially when Kakuzu's Jutsu are known for their explosive quickness and speed U_U Unless you have a Sharingan they're rather hard to counter U_U

Honestly Kakuzu's raiton can end this, he's able to create two bolts instantaneously, Hiruzen's wind can only counter one, If you use his previous clone formation no clone will be in the vicinity to even come close to countering such a fast jutsu
 
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