[VS] Edo Hiruzen vs Deva

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Location: Konoha
Restriction: Chibaku Tensei, Chou Shinra Tensei
Knowledge: Manga
Distance: 20m

Edo Hiruzen can't regenerate

Who wins?
 
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If Hiruzen can keep enough pressure on Deva by continuously spamming Elemental Jutsu with his Shadow Clones and stop him from using his villiage busting Almighty Push or Planetary Devastation then he can win.
 

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Five(?) tailed Naruto overcame Shinra Tensei. Enma stomps him. Chibaku Tensei wouldn't kill Hiruzen.

I still reckon he wins. One ST used by Deva almost broke every bone in Bunta's body.

It was the fall, not the Jutsu.
 

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I don't know what you are restricting, i know CT is chibaku tensei bu what's the other one?

Anyways, as long as Deva can use shinra tensei to make the 5 elemental atack combo fly away and the black rods he wins. Deva's taijutsu combined with the rods and universall pull were enough to give SM Naruto a run for his Money, Hiruzen is lost here.
 

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Deva takes this.
 

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Five(?) tailed Naruto overcame Shinra Tensei. Enma stomps him. Chibaku Tensei wouldn't kill Hiruzen.
How do you think he counter CT? Should i unrestrict it then?
 

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Five(?) tailed Naruto overcame Shinra Tensei. Enma stomps him. Chibaku Tensei wouldn't kill Hiruzen.



It was the fall, not the Jutsu.
And the jutsu would send Hiruzen tumbling through the air.

Is there any proof that Kurama was exerting any force back while Enma pushed him to the outskirts of the village? IIRC, 5TKN was in the air too and so had gravity on his side.
 

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I don't know what you are restricting, i know CT is chibaku tensei bu what's the other one?

Anyways, as long as Deva can use shinra tensei to make the 5 elemental atack combo fly away and the black rods he wins. Deva's taijutsu combined with the rods and universall pull were enough to give SM Naruto a run for his Money, Hiruzen is lost here.
The other one is Chou Shinra tensei(the one he used to destroy Konoha before Naruto's arrival)
 

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Hiruzen intelligence give him the victory. He finds out the 5 sec cool time and finishes it off.
 

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I believe Hiruzen with Enma can take out Deva w/out restrictions.
 

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I believe Hiruzen with Enma can take out Deva w/out restrictions.

This. As Deva doesn't rely on them unless he desperately needs to. Hiruzen can finish this off before he runs away.

Plus Hiruzen's range on ninjutsu won't even give him time to use them.
 

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And the jutsu would send Hiruzen tumbling through the air.

Is there any proof that Kurama was exerting any force back while Enma pushed him to the outskirts of the village? IIRC, 5TKN was in the air too and so had gravity on his side.

Doubtful considering Enma pushed a construc far greater in size and power out of the village.

Any proof? Do you know how forces work my son?

Lest we forget the five second + recharge time for any of his Jutsu.
 

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Doubtful considering Enma pushed a construc far greater in size and power out of the village.

Any proof? Do you know how forces work my son?

Lest we forget the five second + recharge time for any of his Jutsu.
Ah, nvm, I guess Hiruzen could win this.
 

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I noticed as much after posting. I changed OP


Deva still stomps.

Hiruzen can only delay his "death" by using Kage Bunshin feints, basic, single element attacks are worthless against top tier shinobi.

And the five second limit is worthless considering a team of Kakashi, Chouji and Chouza couldn't pull an attack off quick enough between them, despite it being planned. Edo Hiruzen is still an old man at the end of the day.
 
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Tendou Pain wins high difficulty.
 

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i think hiruzen has enough counters to put a fight and win

shinra tensei can be countered by enma transforming into a protective cage around hiruzen and preventing him from getting hurt [ ], he can even use his hands to further to support him inside the cage [ ]

bansho tenin countered by throwing human sized shurikens or any elemental ninjutsu while he is getting pulled, deva will be forced to dodge the incoming attack and stop using bansho tenin, or he could just smack him with enma as it can extend

hiruzen is certainly smart enough to analyze and figure out about the five second interval, he correctly found out that obito cannot maintain his technique for longer duration of time
and after that it only a matter of time before he gets deva path
 
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