Edo Hiruzen Misconception

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Alot of people are going around asking, "Why didnt hiruzen come back in his prime". Im here to say that whether he is in his prime or not is errelanvant because the only weakness he had that held him back has now been fixed.

When the old hiruzen fought Orochimaru, Both anbu, enma, and hiruzen stated that he could not compete like he did in his prime because he did not possess the chakra/stamina that he had in his prime.

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And Orochimaru made comments about how he was straining and out of breath

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Many people on the base complain that hiruzen is fodder because he didnt use all the justu which it is said he is able to use (which is compleletly ignorant, because it was obvious that he didnt have the chakra levels to spam).

But all of that has been fixed now because as a edo tensei, Hiruzen has been blessed with unlimited chakra and a unstressed body. Which eliminates all weaknesses that he had in life. And allows him to use the arsenal of justu that he was said to possess.

So even if this hiruzen isnt young, that doesnt mean he isnt in his prime because IMO the only diffrence between old hiruzen and the hiruzen in his prime other than age and the stresses that his body had to deal with and his deminished chakra reserves. But now that he is edo it has all been resolved.



Now, with that being said. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I PRESENT TO YOU.............



HIRUZEN SARUTOBI IN HIS PRIME!!!!!!!








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P.S even though his chakra levels were low the strength of his chakra was still higher than most. Seen when he was able to make the atmosphere dense just by releasing his chakra, and when his clones got stabbed and had shuriken sticking out of there back but they didnt dissapate, and when he spat on the ground and created a Giant wall of earth, and his fire techs were shown to be way superior than any shown by the uchiha.

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No.

To reach his own prime Nagato had to absorb chakra, Hiruzen is still at his lowest.
 

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No.

To reach his own prime Nagato had to absorb chakra, Hiruzen is still at his lowest.

I dont think you understand.

What do you think constitutes hiruzen as not being in his Prime?
 

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he strength and speed are still lower than his prime, he said enma felt heavier
But this as good as prime as we;ll get
 

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Hmmm maybe yes
 

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I agree completely, when Hiruzen goes into battle, we will finally put the arguments about Hiruzen to bed.
 

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Edos are brought back looking the way they did when they died but their bodies are in their prime.
 

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Alot of people are going around asking, "Why didnt hiruzen come back in his prime". Im here to say that whether he is in his prime or not is errelanvant because the only weakness he had that held him back has now been fixed.

When the old hiruzen fought Orochimaru, Both anbu, enma, and hiruzen stated that he could not compete like he did in his prime because he did not possess the chakra/stamina that he had in his prime.

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And Orochimaru made comments about how he was straining and out of breath

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Many people on the base complain that hiruzen is fodder because he didnt use all the justu which it is said he is able to use (which is compleletly ignorant, because it was obvious that he didnt have the chakra levels to spam).

But all of that has been fixed now because as a edo tensei, Hiruzen has been blessed with unlimited chakra and a unstressed body. Which eliminates all weaknesses that he had in life. And allows him to use the arsenal of justu that he was said to possess.

So even if this hiruzen isnt young, that doesnt mean he isnt in his prime because IMO the only diffrence between old hiruzen and the hiruzen in his prime other than age and the stresses that his body had to deal with and his deminished chakra reserves. But now that he is edo it has all been resolved.



Now, with that being said. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I PRESENT TO YOU.............



HIRUZEN SARUTOBI IN HIS PRIME!!!!!!!








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P.S even though his chakra levels were low the strength of his chakra was still higher than most. Seen when he was able to make the atmosphere dense just by releasing his chakra, and when his clones got stabbed and had shuriken sticking out of there back but they didnt dissapate, and when he spat on the ground and created a Giant wall of earth, and his fire techs were shown to be way superior than any shown by the uchiha.

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I agree, we will see hiruzen truly live up to his name. However i disagree about hiruzen's fire jutsus, the uchiha still surpass him in that aspect
 

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he strength and speed are still lower than his prime, he said enma felt heavier
But this as good as prime as we;ll get

That is true. His strength and speed will not be up to par unless he knows how to use his chakra to enhance it, like tsunade.


you dont tell me how I reached my prime.

hahaha

I agree completely, when Hiruzen goes into battle, we will finally put the arguments about Hiruzen to bed.

Exactly. i cant wait for that moment.
 

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No edo tensei was revived in its prime, it just so happens every edo that was brought back died in their prime. The only exception is Madara and hiruzen.
 

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Lol .
His strength, speed and chakra is still constant at 3, edo or not.
Shame actually

That may not be so in this case. There are still things not seen with hiruzen. It could be possible that he knows how to enhance his strenght and speed with chakra. It is a possiblity, and regards to chakra as a edo his chakra is unlimited sooo.. Thats that


Edos are brought back looking the way they did when they died but their bodies are in their prime.

That maybe true. But im not completely sure.. Actually you might be right because kimmikaru wasnt sick and nagato could walk.. You may be right.

I agree, we will see hiruzen truly live up to his name. However i disagree about hiruzen's fire jutsus, the uchiha still surpass him in that aspect

Well sasuke and itachi never showed any fire jutsu on that level. And the sarutobi's are also known for powerful fire release.
 

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No edo tensei was revived in its prime, it just so happens every edo that was brought back died in their prime. The only exception is Madara and hiruzen.

and lady chiyo. They all died in their prime. Hiruzen, Madara, and Chiyo were strong enough to live to old age.
 

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Agreed, except for when you said he has shown superior fire techs to the uchihas which is false.
 

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I personally think he'll be the same as when he died.. Only difference now is he has a body that can't be destroyed and endless chakra. Not saying you're wrong though. We'll see.
 

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Well sasuke and itachi never showed any fire jutsu on that level. And the sarutobi's are also known for powerful fire release.

I know that the sarutobis were known for fire release techs but the uchiha just have more versatility and power. (I will admit hiruzen's fire techs are unlike any we've seen from normal ninja however I still think Itachi/sasuke surpass him

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