Edo Hashirama>Edo Madara

[KidGamer65]

And what you are doing is assuming that they do not. Do you have any proof that taking Kurama out of the picture and adding Rinnegan into the mix somehow balances it all out? There is still a possibility that Mokuton's chakra can be absorbed with Petra rendering it completely useless for further control. You cannot simply make a factual statement on complete absence of facts when the creator went as far as to venture that the man has no weakness; meaning, there is nothing to exploit, noting to over-whelm, and nothing to defeat. What would Hashirama exactly exploit?

Madara is going to need to use PS to fight against Shinsennjuu and he can't use Preta and Susanoo at the same time, if he runs in there trying to absorb it then he will be easily defeated so no it won't make a difference not to mention PS armored Kyuubi is stronger than PS by itself.

 

[shelke]

@Kidgamer The fight is not over, YET. We don't even know which hidden Doujutsu EMS comes with. Whether it is more versatile than PS or not? It remains debatable. Will it add to his prowess? Definitely. Hence your point is completely debatable on this ground alone. We don't know enough at that point whether Madara only used PS or did he use it in conjunction with that hidden EMS Doujutsu. Not proven otherwise, it's hearsay and speculation, nothing more.

The guy is an Edo. How would he be defeated? If he receives an overwhelming damage, he will be simply reconstructed.

 

[Munboy]

Right now Madara is Madara+Hashirama+Nagato. All that firepower makes Edo Madara>Edo Hashirama.

 

[Saucegay]

Right now Madara is Madara+Hashirama+Nagato. All that firepower makes Edo Madara>Edo Hashirama.

exactly this

 

[Founding Fire Shadow]

Over looking the obvious? he was making direct physical contact with the jutsu itself, not to mention raiton infused water segments surrounded his body from the impact of the jutsu hitting his palm. Read Mei's statement [

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Based on the constructs of Hashirama's mokuton, natural energy does not merge with it but amplifies it's production [

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] As i stated, it only catalyzes his techniques making him produce them in larger quantities in shorter time not that it acutally merges with the jutsu. It's already been made clear via Jiraya's Senpou Goemon that the Natural energy only amplifies the scale of his techniques. Also to mention that it also enabled naruto to produce several rasenshuriken as some further implication.

You are making conclusions based more on theory than fact, from what we have seen in the manga their is nothing that suggests Preta Path could absorb Mokuton, yet you continue to try & take excerpts from the data-books & try & twist them to match your theories despite what the manga has clearly established; I guess we will have to agree to disagree.shodaimeicon:

 

[Edo Odin]

You are making conclusions based more on theory than fact, from what we have seen in the manga their is nothing that suggests Preta Path could absorb Mokuton, yet you continue to try & take excerpts from the data-books & try & twist them to match your theories despite what the manga has clearly established; I guess we will have to agree to disagree.shodaimeicon:

@bold: When did the manga ever "clearly establish" something something concerning the matter ?

When it all comes down to nothing, it's a chakra based thing, which means the it could be absorbed. You could argue that once Jiraiya converts his chakra into oil, it's oil, not chakra, so it can't be absorbed, but still we saw the Preta absorb it quite easily because it was chakra based.

 

[iRefleX]

Madara is going to need to use PS to fight against Shinsennjuu and he can't use Preta and Susanoo at the same time, if he runs in there trying to absorb it then he will be easily defeated so no it won't make a difference not to mention PS armored Kyuubi is stronger than PS by itself.

Remember he wasn't used the stabilised PS, which is probably stronger than PS itself. Also he is able to use Susanoo + Rinnegan abilities, this has been shown already...it's just that he won't be able to use his other Mangekyou Sharingan techniques.

 

[KidGamer65]

Remember he wasn't used the stabilised PS, which is probably stronger than PS itself. Also he is able to use Susanoo + Rinnegan abilities, this has been shown already...it's just that he won't be able to use his other Mangekyou Sharingan techniques.

That was stabilized PS that was put on to Kurama. Just look at the face.