Edo Hashirama>Edo Madara

[Reflection]

Doesn't look like stomping to me...

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Just the 9 tails alone was too much for hashirama and it was sealed by mito sometime during/in the latter parts of that fight.

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Luckily for hashirama, Madara ended up fighting for the DNA and not for the kill.

It's not about who said it... It's about what message was conveyed from Kishi. If Madara was so tough, he could've killed Hashirama and taken his DNA, but he didn't. He faked his death... It was for his own good- which was his life. U_U

The Rinnegan itself pretty much solidifies yourself as a God of the Shinobi world, as expressed by everyone's awe and everyone believing it was only a myth. Madara was the ONLY Shinobi to attain it, (Minus Nagato and Obito, since they were Madara's eyes anyways). Being recreated past your prime which was still Hashirama's equal before his death would tell anyone, yes, you've been surpassed.

Yet, he admits that a rinnegan-less shinobi is capable of/can defeat him. Hashirama hasn't been surpassed one bit... Madara has a long ways to go.

 

[mun]

Just stating a point, bro. They both progressed, it's not like Madara had the EMS forever now, MS Madara vs. Hashirama, they were more than likely equal too, as the destined rivals always are through Kishimoto's illustrations of the past repeating itself.

At this point yes, Perfect Susano'o is still technically his strongest technique, but still, the capabilities of the Rinnegan is still new to Hashirama, so the element of surprise is pretty much against him.

It was already stated that alot of time has passed from the time they last fought before their last fight meaning they were equal before and both got stronger but hashi got stronger than madara

 

[Reflection]

Always contradicts itself? stop fantasizing. Also, that wasn't the end of their fight as they were both healthy and kicking. You haven't concluded anything really besides trying to persuade me with things you make up. Hashi's statement was that the 9tails power was too great for him to handle, this should go along with EMS Madara being his Opponent. If you honestly thing Hashirama would stand a chance against Rinnegan Edo Madara along with the juubi they i can't help you.

I told you already... The juubi isn't bound to Madara anymore. Lee made sure of it.

 

[KingHashirama]

Always contradicts itself? stop fantasizing. Also, that wasn't the end of their fight as they were both healthy and kicking. You haven't concluded anything really besides trying to persuade me with things you make up. Hashi's statement was that the 9tails power was too great for him to handle, this should go along with EMS Madara being his Opponent. If you honestly thing Hashirama would stand a chance against Rinnegan Edo Madara along with the juubi they i can't help you.

He never stated anything about himself.. LMAOOO. He let it roam free before. But he realized the threat the 9-tails posed to the future was great , if it were to be controlled by someone like Madara... And and then later on it proved its statement.. the 9-tails power is too much to handle.....

 

[LarryR]

We have 4 edo kages coming to the battlefield and one of them is a contender for strongest shinobi ever. Juubi or not Madara can't fight Naruto team + Hashirama team at the same time. It wouldn't even be called a fight. That's why i think Madara team will probably get a power up.

 

[mun]

Always contradicts itself? stop fantasizing. Also, that wasn't the end of their fight as they were both healthy and kicking. You haven't concluded anything really besides trying to persuade me with things you make up. Hashi's statement was that the 9tails power was too great for him to handle, this should go along with EMS Madara being his Opponent. If you honestly thing Hashirama would stand a chance against Rinnegan Edo Madara along with the juubi they i can't help you.

i didnt make anything up, you just can't face the facts. Are you retarded? did i say edo hashi will stomp edo madara+ the juubi? I said edo hashi beats edo madara 1on1. If edo madara can solo hashi then he wouldnt need the juubi. Juubi is the combination of all the tailed beast so its most likely 9 times as strong as the kyuubi. Madara ain't as strong as you think

 

[Flawž]

the thing your overlooking is the fact that he and hashirama were more or less even with their fight lasting 2-3days when he had nothing but ems. now he has rinnegan mokuton and PS.... He'd ass rape hashirama get over it bro

he had PS before. It was PS which Covered the Kyuubi. *

 

[Waltz]

1. Madara + Kyuubi.

2. Mito CHOSE to seal it.. it was not requires, the Kyuubi had already been binded.

3. Having blood or bruises doesn't mean you had a difficult time.

4. Madara at that point was actually stronger, Seeing as that PS is his strongest attack atm...

5. Madara went for the Kill... lmaoo. No person is dumb enough to commit suicide for dna that can be gained without fighting..

6. The 9-tails was about to get PAWNED.. in the start of the fight..... lmao. Got saved by Madara.

-> Madara has a contract summoning with the kyuubi so its technically his summon.
-> She did, to aid him so he had help because as stated, the kyuubi's power was overwhelming even for him.
-> Dont' be ridiculous. It obviously means you've sustained great bodily injury and most likely worn out especially if your other eye is damaged and your apparently panting for air
-> In terms of actual damage displayed so far, it is. He has more potentially harmful techniques though. Not sure why you mentioned it anyway.
-> Link me where it said he went for the kill; Wouldn't make sense if he stole DNA in the end.
-> Not sure why you mentioned that either, nor are we sure if that flash back was the beginning of their fight.

 

[Reflection]

Aww, no one quotes me anymore? Am I too much for you Madara fans?

 

[mun]

-> Madara has a contract summoning with the kyuubi so its technically his summon.
-> She did, to aid him so he had help because as stated, the kyuubi's power was overwhelming even for him.
-> Dont' be ridiculous. It obviously means you've sustained great bodily injury and most likely worn out especially if your other eye is damaged and your apparently panting for air
-> In terms of actual damage displayed so far, it is. He has more potentially harmful techniques though. Not sure why you mentioned it anyway.
-> Link me where it said he went for the kill; Wouldn't make sense if he stole DNA in the end.
-> Not sure why you mentioned that either, nor are we sure if that flash back was the beginning of their fight.

if it was an equal fight like you said it was, madara wouldnt have to stay connected to gedo mazo all the time. Madara got stomped pretty badly, he barely survived.

 

[Waltz]

I told you already... The juubi isn't bound to Madara anymore. Lee made sure of it.

That doesn't mean a reconnection isn't possible. Why are you even mentioning this?

He never stated anything about himself.. LMAOOO. He let it roam free before. But he realized the threat the 9-tails posed to the future was great , if it were to be controlled by someone like Madara... And and then later on it proved its statement.. the 9-tails power is too much to handle.....

Link me the underlined or are you also pulling thoughts out of your a88?

i didnt make anything up, you just can't face the facts. Are you retarded? did i say edo hashi will stomp edo madara+ the juubi? I said edo hashi beats edo madara 1on1. If edo madara can solo hashi then he wouldnt need the juubi. Juubi is the combination of all the tailed beast so its most likely 9 times as strong as the kyuubi. Madara ain't as strong as you think

One on one? What counters do Hashirama possess for the rinnengan? Its insulting that your trying to tell me the limits of a character i've studied yet you provide no feats for hashi to actually defeat madara, just your personal opinion.

if it was an equal fight like you said it was, madara wouldnt have to stay connected to gedo mazo all the time. Madara got stomped pretty badly, he barely survived.

Fantasizing again? He faked his death, escaped, transplanted the DNA and made a full recovery.

 

[Reflection]

That doesn't me a reconnection isn't possible. Why are you even mentioning this?

Link me the underlined or are you also pulling thoughts out of your a88?


One on one? What counters do Hashirama possess for the rinnengan? Its insulting that your trying to tell me the limits of a character i've studied yet you provide no feats for hashi to actually defeat madara, just your personal opinion.

They struggled to maintain the juubi while connected during the first phase... There's no way they will be able to reconnect during the second phase, because the juubi will be too much. Also, I mentioned it because you keep adding the juubi to Madara's arsenal as if he still is in control of the juubi. Are you senile are something? :|

 

[mun]

That doesn't mean a reconnection isn't possible. Why are you even mentioning this?

Link me the underlined or are you also pulling thoughts out of your a88?


One on one? What counters do Hashirama possess for the rinnengan? Its insulting that your trying to tell me the limits of a character i've studied yet you provide no feats for hashi to actually defeat madara, just your personal opinion.



Fantasizing again? He faked his death, escaped, transplanted the DNA and made a full recovery.

Why do you talk like the rinnegan is the strongest thing ever? Rinnegan is nothing compared to hashi. Hashi's 1000 hand jutsu easily beats every rinnegan techs. You're the one who's fantasizing, now somehow madara made a "full recovery", right. If he did he would leave the gedo mazo but he didn't cause he would die instantly.

 

[Omnipotent]

Now if Edo Hashirama alone > Edo Madara, wouldn't it be quite anticlimactic?

 

[Waltz]

They struggled to maintain the juubi while connected during the first phase... There's no way they will be able to reconnect during the second phase, because the juubi will be too much. Also, I mentioned it because you keep adding the juubi to Madara's arsenal as if he still is in control of the juubi. Are you senile are something? :|

Were they already controlling the Juubi's Second stage with Mokuton? I added it to his arsenal because it is a possibility he may utilize it. Removing it wouldn't make a difference however. Hashirama has no counter for the Rinnegan nor it's techniques. Preta path alone absorbs mokuton.

Why do you talk like the rinnegan is the strongest thing ever? Rinnegan is nothing compared to hashi. Hashi's 1000 hand jutsu easily beats every rinnegan techs. You're the one who's fantasizing, now somehow madara made a "full recovery", right. If he did he would leave the gedo mazo but he didn't cause he would die instantly.

Because it's originally the Sage of Six Path's, A priest who was considered a God.

Being that you speak so highly of it...tell me how Shinshuusenju bypasses Preta path's unlimited ability to absorb ninjutsu (which includes Mokuton) and i may consider taking your seriously.

 

[Reflection]

Now if Edo Hashirama alone > Edo Madara, wouldn't it be quite anticlimactic?

Don't know. I just go by what Kishi says. U_U

 

[mun]

Now if Edo Hashirama alone > Edo Madara, wouldn't it be quite anticlimactic?

uh thats why madara has the juubi, genius.

 

[Reflection]

Were they already controlling the Juubi's Second stage with Mokuton? I added it to his arsenal because it is a possibility he may utilize it. Removing it wouldn't make a difference however. Hashirama has no counter for the Rinnegan nor it's techniques. Preta path alone absorbs mokuton.

Apparently he does. Madara stated that he is capable of/ can defeat him, so he must have counters. Duh!
And you're adding it to his arsenal as if he can control it alone. Smh...

 

[mun]

Were they already controlling the Juubi's Second stage with Mokuton? I added it to his arsenal because it is a possibility he may utilize it. Removing it wouldn't make a difference however. Hashirama has no counter for the Rinnegan nor it's techniques. Preta path alone absorbs mokuton.



Because it's originally the Sage of Six Path's, A priest who was considered a God.

Being that you speak so highly of it...tell me how Shinshuusenju bypasses Preta path's unlimited ability to absorb ninjutsu (which includes Mokuton) and i may consider taking your seriously.

LOL you really are delusional if you think preta path can absorb shinshuusenju. Rinnegan is useless against overwhelming power

 

[Waltz]

LOL you really are delusional if you think preta path can absorb shinshuusenju. Rinnegan is useless against overwhelming power

Expand on what your saying...how exactly does it bypass it?

Apparently he does. Madara stated that he is capable of/ can defeat him, so he must have counters. Duh!
And you're adding it to his arsenal as if he can control it alone. Smh...

Your running in circles. Read my first post on this thread.

A Rinnegan user does not require external assistance to control the doujutsu itself.