Edo Chakra explained with Soda

[Holy God]

I see a breakthrough!

Unlimited has bounds
Infinite does not.

You can't say "infinite water" in a bottle.

Infinite starts at infinite

Unlimited can be restricted

So someone saying infinite water in a bottle is incorrect

One could say an unlimited amount of water in a bottle that can infinity be poured is a better example

I don't see the breakthrough? You're still saying unlimited has bounds when the very definition of the word is having no bounds.

 

[Mellanoma]

I don't see the breakthrough? You're still saying unlimited has bounds when the very definition of the word is having no bounds.

How is it that you are the ONLY person who do not understand this?

Even in your questioning it should help you understand.

In short:

Unlimited has external variables or bounds
Infinite does not

Infinite has no external variabes,factors or bounds
Unlimited can or does

 

[Holy God]

How is it that you are the ONLY person who do not understand this?

In short:

Unlimited has variables or bounds
Infinite does not

Infinite has no variabes,factors or bounds
Unlimited can or does

Last time i'm replying as its pointless if you don't get it (I don't mind helping)

Id suggest researching physics

I completely understand the concept, but I don't believe you do. This is what you're saying:

"Unlimited has variables or bounds"

And this is what everyone else agrees upon, the definition of unlimited:

"1. Not limited; having no bounds; boundless.

2. Undefined; indefinite; not bounded by proper exceptions; as unlimited terms.

3. Unconfined; not restrained."

 

[Mellanoma]

I completely understand the concept, but I don't believe you do. This is what you're saying:

"Unlimited has variables or bounds"

And this is what everyone else agrees upon, the definition of unlimited:

"1. Not limited; having no bounds; boundless.

2. Undefined; indefinite; not bounded by proper exceptions; as unlimited terms.

3. Unconfined; not restrained."

He still doesn't get it....

GG

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

There are shinobis specially designed to have 9999999999+ liters of soda/chakra with a constant refill. Which is Edo Madara. Because he's shown his max potential of Ms/Ems powers in edo tensei with the additional Hashirama and six path power.

 

[kiiro]

And since there is a limit to the amount of water the bottle can have, it is not unlimited. How are you even defining unlimited? Something that regenerates?

Yes. You got unlimited times 20 liters of water. Infinite is something that cant be measure. Edo have less chakra that they had in while they were alive. The only difference is that their chakra regenerates faster and for this reason it is said that they have Unlimited times their chakra.

 

[Holy God]

Yes. You got unlimited times 20 liters of water. Infinite is something that cant be measure. Edo have less chakra that they had in while they were alive. The only difference is that their chakra regenerates faster and for this reason it is said that they have Unlimited times their chakra.

I've already explained this then. If you're purely talking about the water inside the bottle at any time, it is not unlimited, because it is always limited to, as you put it, 20 liters. This is the scenario I'm talking about, as it is limited yet always rising to this limit, making infinite a better term.

What you're talking about is the source of the water, in which case yes, the bottle can be refilled an unlimited amount of times, but then it is also correct to say it can be refilled an infinite amount of times, because even if we use your wording, the amount of times the bottle can be refilled cannot be measured as it will never stop being refilled.

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[kiiro]

I've already explained this then. If you're purely talking about the water inside the bottle at any time, it is not unlimited, because it is always limited to, as you put it, 20 liters. This is the scenario I'm talking about, as it is limited yet always rising to this limit, making infinite a better term.

What you're talking about is the source of the water, in which case yes, the bottle can be refilled an unlimited amount of times, but then it is also correct to say it can be refilled an infinite amount of times, because even if we use your wording, the amount of times the bottle can be refilled cannot be measured as it will never stop being refilled.

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Totally agrred if you put it that way. But do you understand the point that Edos doens't have Infinite chakra but they have Infinite time their own chakra?

Using your word then. Here is been using these two word to difference how the chakra works with the Edos.

 

[Holy God]

Totally agrred if you put it that way. But do you understand the point that Edos doens't have Infinite chakra but they have Infinite time their own chakra?

Using your word then. Here is been using these two word to difference how the chakra works with the Edos.

Yes, I agree that the refilling is both infinite and unlimited. When someone says those under Impure World Resurrection have unlimited or infinite chakra though, they are talking about how much chakra they have rather than how it refills, which is why you purposely rephrased it to "unlimited times their chakra". If you outright say they have unlimited chakra, it doesn't make sense as per the first scenario in my previous post. Yes, infinite also doesn't make sense in that it rises without limit like how we think of numbers, but if you think of the definition of infinite as just always rising albeit with a limit, then it fits perfectly, which is why I prior posted:

I was talking about the amount of chakra they hold at a time, which as proven in the manga and said by yourself many times, is not unlimited, but ever increasing unto a bound, which is why I called it infinite, albeit not perfectly fitting the definition.

To summarize, yes, both words technically do not actually work correctly if you're talking about how much chakra they have, but infinite is the more befitting term if you apply a limit and just talk about the "always rising" part.