Edo BM Minato VS Edo Madara

[Strict]

@Bogard, no, I see no reason the explosion would kill the user of Gakido, when he is surrounded by the orb which isolates the user from any Chakra and seals it away.

2. Flawed. Gakido had no problems with absorbing Senjutsu. He also absorbed Hachibi's Chakra to fill up his resources. Senchakra is another thing. His body couldn't handle the force of natural energy within the Senchakra. But that doesn't mean that once, you are successfully absorbed Chakra, you adopt it. Regarding the barrier which sucks up Chakra of techniques, the databook particularizes, that the Chakra of Ninjutsu disperses inside the users body.

It also doesn't matter why Deva used Bansho Tenin instead of Shinra Tensei. Doesn't mean he can't use latter. Bansho Tenin was used on Kyuubi, before it shot the Bijuudama. Doesn't mean Shinra Tensei can't repel a flying one. Minato's barrier also didn't make exploding the Bijuudama. It makes no sense for me, that the ST would make the BD explode. Mokuton Golem catches it, Naruto repels it with brute force, Minato's barrier stops it. The Bijuudama won't explode against the Shinra Tensei.

 

[Unorthodox]

You disappoint me.

1. Why didn't Obito absorb Minato's seal when he had both Rinnegan and Mokuton?
2. Why couldn't Obito get rid of Tobirama's seal when he had Rinnegan, Mokuton and Juubi?

its because you can't. As said by Minato the FTG seal never disappears [the only thing that erased it was when Obito became the Sage U_U]

why didnt obito use moon size shira tensei? why didnt he make a moon size CT? simple answer is plot

 

[pateuvasiliu]

why didnt obito use moon size shira tensei? why didnt he make a moon size CT? simple answer is plot

Simple answer is he can't.

 

[Oblivionx]

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Madara genjutsu has been stated to be impossible to break from.

all that scan states is that it's impossible for itachi to control this many shinobi at different locations...! also you showed no scan of it actually happening...! that was what HQ thought considering the circumstances, so show me a scan in which multiple targets are actually being controlled...!
and as far i know itachi is lot superior to madara in genjutsu...!
where was it stated that madara's genjutsu is unbreakable???
and i'm talking about multiple targets not strength of genjutsu...!

 

[Unorthodox]

Simple answer is he can't.

correct obito cannot use preta path but madara can also the op gave madara all rinnegan techs shown how does minato even touch 25 clones with shira tensei preta path and standing susanoo plus couldnt madara use shira tensei while he's inside susanoo

Maddy just to hax

 

[Bronze]

all that scan states is that it's impossible for itachi to control this many shinobi at different locations...! also you showed no scan of it actually happening...! that was what HQ thought considering the circumstances, so show me a scan in which multiple targets are actually being controlled...!
and as far i know itachi is lot superior to madara in genjutsu...!
where was it stated that madara's genjutsu is unbreakable???
and i'm talking about multiple targets not strength of genjutsu...!

That scan said multiple and in the context it meant the number of shinobi alliance which was around 40,000 at that time. You said 3 toads which is not greater than that number. Not to mention controlling 100% kyuubi and jinchuriki is greater than 3 pathetic toads.
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] Onoki said that Madara's genjutsu is impossible to break no matter what. Itachi's genjutsu doesn't come close to Madara's.

 

[Strict]

Onoki said that Madara's genjutsu is impossible to break no matter what. Itachi's genjutsu doesn't come close to Madara's.

That isn't what Oonoki said. Sharingan is known for his hypnotic illusions. Sasuke used it to make the Kumo Nin and Zetsu give him all information. Obito did it against Konan. Itachi did it to make Kabuto show him the seals to release Edo Tensei. Madara's eye techniques mean a Genjutsu which puts him in a Genjutsu and makes him speaking out information.

Itachi has better Genjutsu feats. The Genjutsu Madara used against Ay was on the level of MS Sasuke. It paralyzed him and Oonoki released it later. Tsukuyomi one shots you no matter of what.

 

[Oblivionx]

That scan said multiple and in the context it meant the number of shinobi alliance which was around 40,000 at that time. You said 3 toads which is not greater than that number. Not to mention controlling 100% kyuubi and jinchuriki is greater than 3 pathetic toads.
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] Onoki said that Madara's genjutsu is impossible to break no matter what. Itachi's genjutsu doesn't come close to Madara's.

dude you are mixing obito's feats with madara's...! and obito actually did control 6 jins but they had same eyes so we don't know the mechanism for them...! but 100% kyubi or what.. it's still single entity...! and no it didn't mean whole SA. it only meant shinobi turning against SA...! and scan stated that itachi can't control this many shinobi so i don't get what you are trying to imply....!

 

[Bronze]

Don't really care about Madara's genjutsu right now.

The point on this topic is, Minato will never beat Madara. I have given my reasons in page 1.

 

[Oblivionx]

Don't really care about Madara's genjutsu right now.

The point on this topic is, Minato will never beat Madara. I have given my reasons in page 1.

XD ok....! got it...! :bye:

 

[Prince Charles]

lets say they can be absorbed with preta path although they can't be...!
But are you saying madara is going to run around battlefield to absorbs marks from kunais...? XD
lol it will be so funny, no doubt....! just imagine madara and minato looking to grab kunais...! who gets there first...! XD

I can care less about Madara and Minato, my focus was on the topic regarding fuinjutsu gettin it's chakra absorbed.

You disappoint me.

1. Why didn't Obito absorb Minato's seal when he had both Rinnegan and Mokuton?
2. Why couldn't Obito get rid of Tobirama's seal when he had Rinnegan, Mokuton and Juubi?


its because you can't. As said by Minato the FTG seal never disappears [the only thing that erased it was when Obito became the Sage U_U]

How can I answer those questions? You make it seem as though these characters have minds of their own and can decide what they want to do, lets just all remember kishi is one at the end of the day who decided or decides what a character will do.

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I will and I shall edit this if I change my mind.

EDIT- Ejblack, I read your quote I won't deny it sounds rather plausible and correct but for the most part it is backed up but I am still a bit iffy on the matter but I can't deny is it plausible in what you said, but to my understanding kisame's absorption as you said was focused on the 8 tails external chakra that was oozing out of Bee at the moment but I guess you still have a point though.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

I will and I shall edit this if I change my mind.

Perhaps I should should of edit a scan of Petra Path attempting/ completely absorbing Narutos chakra. His seal wasn't effective.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

EDIT- Ejblack, I read your quote I won't deny it sounds rather plausible and correct but for the most part it is backed up but I am still a bit iffy on the matter but I can't deny is it plausible in what you said, but to my understanding kisame's absorption as you said was focused on the 8 tails external chakra that was oozing out of Bee at the moment but I guess you still have a point though.

Remember Kisame stab him too so he should of been feeding off chakra internally too. Same goes with Naruto getting pinned by Petra, absorbing Naruto's chakra internally. He end up absorbing natural energy first [

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