Edo army vs Edo hokage
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Buddha gets destroyed relatively easily, either by Deidara using C0, Nagato using Shinra Tensei, Muu using jinton, or Madara using meteor. All edos except Minato can get one-shotted by Itachi's genjutsu. Madara can encase all of his team with Perfect Susano'o. With no buddha, they have no way to stop Perfect Susano'o from simply destroying them all. The there's Itachi's amaterasu. Hiruzen is dealt with relatively easily by 3rd Raikage. And of course there's Madara, who has mokuton equal to that of Hashirama and can use a buddha to pound everyone to death.
Not even sure if you're serious... St* destroying something that took multiple tbbs. Yea.... No.
I've yet to see you factor in the 3x+ power boost from bm cloak making hashi easily stronger than even edo madara. And making tobirama and hiruzen stronger than everyone bar madara.
Nor have i seen you factor in tobirama/minato teleporting teammates to themselves. So even if someone is restrained, distracted or under genjutsu, they can be saved by minato, tobirama or one of their several clones.
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I've yet to see any evidence that any of that can beat bhudda when it's also powered by a bm cloak.
It took a susano'o cloaked kyuubi to destroy just the arms. Know why it had the cloaked susano'o? So that hashi wouldn't foderize and restrain it with wood dragon like he kept doing. Exactly what will happen to the other bijuu. What can gold and silver brother even do anyway...? And are you forgetting minato has tbb's? Or base, unboosted hiruzen has elemental jutsu the size of bijuu? Now add a cloak to hiruzen. What about tobirama who has a water jet that fukasaku canonically used to slice a large summoning in half? Now also boost tobirama with a cloak. What about all 4 of the edo hokage who are a walking kibaku fodder timebomb? What about minato's s/t barrier/kunai's that no diff warp tbb's, meteors and the like? What about ftw which incapacitates most the edos? What about bod that blinds most them long enough for a blitz seal? What about hiruzen who can use rds through shadow clones? 5 clones + ftg = madara, nagato, itachi, and 2 other unlucky saps fighting in the reapers stomach. What about hiruzens raiton which negates deids entire arsenal no diff. What about deid soloing his own team mates with that very c0? Hokage simply teleport away before he blows, they come back to see the dead edos and minato blitz seals. What about madaras meteor which kills his team mates while the hokage teleport away again and come back to blitz seal.
Your strategy isn't thought through at all. You're only damaging your team with aoe attacks when the hokage can teleport miles away l, use their sensing skills to keep track of what's going on, then come back to blitz steal.
Sure thing, but Hashirama would just take advantage of the desintegration of edos to hold them up with his gates just like he did with Edo Madara after the rasenshuriken and thus rendering them useless. In the time being, they deal with Madara and in the end, Minato seals them up in the shishou/hakke fuin
Hashirama gets one-shotted by Tsukuyomi. Hiruzen gets one-shotted by Tsukuyomi. Tobirama gets one-shotted by Tsukuyomi. Minato doesn't because Kurama can disturb his chakra, but it is a simple matter to gang up on him. Madara can use Buddhas and Mokuton dragons just as well as Hashi can. Buddha gets destroyed low diff with massive Shinra Tensei or by Mu's jinton. Bijudamas get absorbed by Madara or Nagato's Preta path, or simply tanked with PS. Amaterasu from Itachi could one-shot all of them.
2 rinnegan users + one EMS user + MS user + Mokuton user + 4 kage + 6 jins > 1 jin + 1 mokuton user + 2 FTG users + 4 kages
Edo army wins low difficulty.
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So adding a lil bit of Kyuubis chakra to a man whose chakra is strong enough to surpass Kyuubi and whose chakra pool is bigger than that of Minato along with Kyuubi is going to help him to pull his most poweful jutsu?
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Hashirama alone would OS majority of those edos in one move by puting them to sleep with the FTW. Nagato can only absorb chakra. While bijudamas are made of chakra, the result of the explosion created by bijuudamas aren't. So the explosive blast of Bijuudamas alone would kill someone like Nagato and that's even if i give him the benefit of doubt in really being capable to absorb chakra in bijuudamas themselves considering how long it took Gakidou just to absorb Jiraya's rasengan. A barrage of Bijuudamas and there would be no hope for him. The army may have superiority in number, but only Madara can survive assaults coming from Hashirama or BM Minato. The rest are basically non-factors
FTW will not work on Edos since they don't breathe. Both Nagato and Madara can easily absorb bijudamas, as they are made of chakra. The explosions made by bijudama are also made of chakra, unless you count rocks/flying debris, which is blocked by Itachi's or Madara's Susano'o. That's assuming they aren't absorbed by Nagato/Madara before they hit the landscape. Gakido absorbs all ninjutsu, regardless of chakra quantity. Saying bijudamas can't be absorbed is mere fanfiction. Saying Madara is the only factor is extremely ignorant. Nagato, Itachi, Mu, 3rd Raikage, 6 jins, and Kin/Gin bros are also big players. And the army is fighting as a team, so Madara can protect everyone else with Perfect Susano'o if the need arises.
Edos do breath. Nidaime Mizukage can barely hold his breath when Joki boy is active [
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], so FTW would be effectiveAnd no the explosion wave isn't made of chakra since it's only the resultant of the jutsu. As an example, Nagato couldn't absorb the explosion created by Hanzo's paper bomb jutsu [
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], so let alone Bijuudama's wave explosion Your the one pulling off a fanfiction here if you can't even identify limits of jutsus
Madara playing the protector for everyone would only favourise the defeat of the edo army since he would be so much busy to protect them that in the end, continuous assault would finally take him out leaving the rest helpless
Not even mentioning the fact like i've said earlier that edo Hokages can simply lock them in barriers if they have to have more room in defeating them
That scan with 2nd mizukage proves nothing. Just because there was strain on his body doesn't mean he was breathing.
Nagato did not absorb the explosions caused by the paper bombs because he didn't react in time. Gakido is a jutsu that requires active concentration in doing it, and Nagato actually did manage to partially absorb the explosion, otherwise his legs wouldn't be intact. Preta path absorbs all chakra-based ninjutsu, regardless of quantity or size.
Madara can multitask relatively easily, and can do combo attacks. He can guard his teammates from bijudamas with his Perfect Susano'o, while sending out wood clones encased with Susano'o to wreck the Hokage. Muu can safely Jinton distracted opponents while safe inside PS. Itachi can amaterasu/tsukuyomi the shit out of everyone while safe behind Yata Mirror. Nagato or Madara can use Bansho Tenin to draw in their opponents and finish them with Susano'o attacks. Not to mention that 8 jinchuriki can spam bijuudamas, and Minato can't possibly use the barrier to redirect all of them. The hokage are simply overwhelmed.
It wasn't exactly a sign of strain, but "panting" and pant = hardly breathing. Another example? Minato after saving alliance shinobi [
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] "ha ha" Edos do breathAh so you say it was because of his speed? Well then so Nagato was slower to react to paper bomb explosions and you think he would be capable to rapidely absorb continous bijudamas explosions?
Madara using clones? With Susanoo? They are weaker and slower than the original. Edo Hokages themselves can use clones to compensate if needed, but they don't really need it since one Bijuu-beam would be enough to make them vanish
And i never talked about Minato's S/T barrier to redirect attacks. I said hokages would lock them in the hokage barrier and nukes them all with Bijuudamas
Other configuration
- Hashirama takes care of Madara
- Meantime, Minato blocks the rest in his Kyubi-holding barrier [
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] as strong if not stronger than Kushina's(since he wanted to do it himself despite her being there) that even Sandaime Hiruzen couldn't break- He comes to help Hashirama to finish Madara off and blocks him with the gates
- Hashirama then puts the rest to sleep with the flower tree world
- Minato ends up sealing them all with the shishou/hakke fuin
Edo Hokages take this
Okay, I will concede one point. Edos do breathe, but it doesn't matter. Perfect Susano'o prevents pollen from getting in, so all Edos on Madara's side remain safe. Madara can counter with his own flower tree world, forcing the hokage to teleport away to a safe distance.
Nagato can absorb bijudamas easily. He sees the bijudama coming, activates Gakido, and proceeds to absorb it all. I don't see the problem here.
Hokage barrier won't happen because all the different Edos are spread out over the battlefield. They won't all be neatly grouped together. Even if it does get set up, Mu can jinton a hole through the barrier and create an opening.
Summary
-Hiruzen and Hashirama get one-shotted by Amaterasu or Tsukuyomi right off the bat. No debate here. Tobirama and Minato can dodge Amaterasu with FTG but now two of the four are out of the game.
-Madara uses FTW to fill the air with pollen, while encasing his own team with Susano'o. Minato and Tobirama are now forced to teleport to a safe distance away.
-Minato will try to attack from a distance with Bijudama, but Nagato absorbs it or Madara's PS tanks it.
-Tobirama's multiplying paper bomb explosion technique gets deleted with jinton by Mu.
-It will be tricky finishing the two, since they are very evasive with FTG, but will be killed by AoE attacks with Buddha, Jinton, 8 jins firing of bijudamas, Deidara's C0, meteor, Shinra Tensei, etc.
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Lmfao the Edo Hokage mid-high diff at most.
Hashirama makes a plethora of Mokuton Bunshin's coupled with Minato handing out KCM cloaks to Hiruzen and Tobirama which lets Tobirama or Minato FTG their team anywhere they want.
Hashirama makes a plethora of Mokuton Bunshin's coupled with Minato handing out KCM cloaks to Hiruzen and Tobirama which lets Tobirama or Minato FTG their team anywhere they want.
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Seriously people think edo Hokages win?
How are the edo hokages going to seal Kabuto's edo army?
Their only chance is 4 red sun barrier, and that is easily prevented by Edo Madara and others such as Itachi, the G&S brothers keeping them at bay.
Hashirama can bind movements with that one tech he used on the juubi (forgot its name I think it's myojoumon or something).
Tobirama hasn't shown any seals
Hiruzen has RDS which is suicide
Minato has RDS which is suicide
Kabuto's army has G&S brothers who have the so6p weapons, Itachi has Totsuka, Madara (likely) can rip souls out + stab people with black rods, Nagato can rip souls out. Edo army has a bigger sealing arsenal, giving them a huge advantage.
Edo Madara w/ edo reinforcement >= Edo Hashirama. Their fight ended in a draw, Hashi had black rods in him while Madara was binded by wood dragon. Oh and Hashirama is their only hope of sealing effectively, so that already cripples the edo hokages from sealing.
G&S Brothers w/ edo reinforcement > Tobirama. This is a manga fact, no denying this. Hopefully Tobirama doesn't say his most used word.
Itachi w/ edo reinforcement > Minato. Itachi and Minato have been portrayed on an equal tier. The edo army tips the scale in his favor.
Rest of the edos > Hiruzen. Hiruzen is gg'd by akatsuki, 7 swordsman, his son, Neji's dad, hanzo, Kimimaro, and Chiyo. Oh and let's not forget. Muu one of the top tier kages of all time. + his kage companions.
How are the edo hokages going to seal Kabuto's edo army?
Their only chance is 4 red sun barrier, and that is easily prevented by Edo Madara and others such as Itachi, the G&S brothers keeping them at bay.
Hashirama can bind movements with that one tech he used on the juubi (forgot its name I think it's myojoumon or something).
Tobirama hasn't shown any seals
Hiruzen has RDS which is suicide
Minato has RDS which is suicide
Kabuto's army has G&S brothers who have the so6p weapons, Itachi has Totsuka, Madara (likely) can rip souls out + stab people with black rods, Nagato can rip souls out. Edo army has a bigger sealing arsenal, giving them a huge advantage.
Edo Madara w/ edo reinforcement >= Edo Hashirama. Their fight ended in a draw, Hashi had black rods in him while Madara was binded by wood dragon. Oh and Hashirama is their only hope of sealing effectively, so that already cripples the edo hokages from sealing.
G&S Brothers w/ edo reinforcement > Tobirama. This is a manga fact, no denying this. Hopefully Tobirama doesn't say his most used word.
Itachi w/ edo reinforcement > Minato. Itachi and Minato have been portrayed on an equal tier. The edo army tips the scale in his favor.
Rest of the edos > Hiruzen. Hiruzen is gg'd by akatsuki, 7 swordsman, his son, Neji's dad, hanzo, Kimimaro, and Chiyo. Oh and let's not forget. Muu one of the top tier kages of all time. + his kage companions.
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