Edo army vs Edo hokage

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Intel: Full for both sides - because, there are people on each side who know everything about people on the other

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Restrictions: Kabuto and ORochimaru engaging in the fight. Otherwise, absolutely nothing.

Location: where the war is currently taking place


I honestly believe that the edo hokage could take this battle high diff. In my opinion, Edo madara, edo itachi, and edo nagato are by far the toughest combatants. However, hashirama can hold off madara. At that point, with madara being distracted, I believe the hokage has a good bit more quality to them than the edo army. In fact, the hokage can keep the fight right around hashi and madara; because they're the only ST users, they're able to move themselves out of danger while the other edos keep dying from simply being collateral.


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The Edo Army wins obviously.

First of all, out of the Hokages only Minato is sealing master. Hiruzen does know one seal which will kill him anyway.
Hashirama and Tobirama cannot use sealing jutsus as far as we know, so they won't be of any help here.

Kinkaku and Ginkaku defeated Tobirama twice before, so I don't see what stop them from defeating him the third time?
and they do have sealing jutsu as well, so that's not a problem.

Hiruzen will be defeated by Nagato, by feats he can't do much against Nagato, who also have sealing jutsus.

Madara can defeat Hashirama by himself as well, but if anything, he can have the other Akatsuki as help if he needs to.

Minato can't deal with all the others by himself! Even though a lot of them do not have all that great feats anyway.
 

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Kabuto has 3 pretty strong edo Ninjas:Madara,Itachi,Nagato and other Kage lvl Ninjas too Mu,3rd,4th,TrollKage S-Class Ninjas Akatsuki :X High Jounin lvl ninjas sevenswordmen and many others ..... i think they wins this....
 

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Edo Madara and Hashirama start duking it out with no regard to what's happening around them
Edo KinGin bros Stomp Tobirama again
Edo Itachi and Minato finally settle the age old question of who would win, but off screen.
So that leaves hiruzen against 6 jinchuuriki, 7 swordsmen, 5 kages, 4 akatsuki and a buttload of fodders.
Nagato can soul suck Hiruzen, then move on to Minato, and them hashirama because the Kingin bros will have sealed tobirama by now.

The hokages are stronger, but outnumbered and fighting itachi at the same time.
 

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Edo Madara and Hashirama start duking it out with no regard to what's happening around them
Edo KinGin bros Stomp Tobirama again
Edo Itachi and Minato finally settle the age old question of who would win, but off screen.
So that leaves hiruzen against 6 jinchuuriki, 7 swordsmen, 5 kages, 4 akatsuki and a buttload of fodders.
Nagato can soul suck Hiruzen, then move on to Minato, and them hashirama because the Kingin bros will have sealed tobirama by now.

The hokages are stronger, but outnumbered and fighting itachi at the same time.

They didn't stomp him in the first place.

It was implied that after Tobirama killed them, he was taken down by Kin/Gin's Jounin level followers. The only reason it was a high-diff match in the first place was because they were ambushed and had presumably no intel on the tools, unlike the ASF, who had both intel and the Johaku no Kohei.

In this scenario, they have full intel and Tobirama is a shrewd man, he takes them quite nicely.
 

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They didn't stomp him in the first place.

It was implied that after Tobirama killed them, he was taken down by Kin/Gin's Jounin level followers. The only reason it was a high-diff match in the first place was because they were ambushed and had presumably no intel on the tools, unlike the ASF, who had both intel and the Johaku no Kohei.

In this scenario, they have full intel and Tobirama is a shrewd man, he takes them quite nicely.

Lol, what?
How was that implied when it was stated clearly that they defeated him?
 

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The Edo Army wins obviously.

First of all, out of the Hokages only Minato is sealing master. Hiruzen does know one seal which will kill him anyway.
Hashirama and Tobirama cannot use sealing jutsus as far as we know, so they won't be of any help here.

Kinkaku and Ginkaku defeated Tobirama twice before, so I don't see what stop them from defeating him the third time?
and they do have sealing jutsu as well, so that's not a problem.

Hiruzen will be defeated by Nagato, by feats he can't do much against Nagato, who also have sealing jutsus.

Madara can defeat Hashirama by himself as well, but if anything, he can have the other Akatsuki as help if he needs to.

Minato can't deal with all the others by himself! Even though a lot of them do not have all that great feats anyway.
this isn't a 1 on 1. You're treating it as such and nothing at all will happen the way you say especially considering minato and/or tobirama can teleport themselves and their team mates out of danger. Or instantly pull off flawless FTG combinations.

PS: Kin/Gin defeated tobirama once, and they didn't even kill him.


Edo Madara and Hashirama start duking it out with no regard to what's happening around them
Edo KinGin bros Stomp Tobirama again
Edo Itachi and Minato finally settle the age old question of who would win, but off screen.
So that leaves hiruzen against 6 jinchuuriki, 7 swordsmen, 5 kages, 4 akatsuki and a buttload of fodders.
Nagato can soul suck Hiruzen, then move on to Minato, and them hashirama because the Kingin bros will have sealed tobirama by now.

The hokages are stronger, but outnumbered and fighting itachi at the same time.
You're another who's making this a 1v1 when it's not. There is no way team 1 can isolate this into a 1v1 when team 2 can teleport team mates back and forth at a whim.

Kabuto has 3 pretty strong edo Ninjas:Madara,Itachi,Nagato and other Kage lvl Ninjas too Mu,3rd,4th,TrollKage S-Class Ninjas Akatsuki :X High Jounin lvl ninjas sevenswordmen and many others ..... i think they wins this....
exactly only 3 pretty strong edos.

Edo hokage has;
BM minato, who's arguably at the levels of EMS madara and Hashirama. No one but edo madara can stop this guy, making him another juggernaught for team 2. and, he's a very very good sensor.

SM hashirama. nothing more even needs to be said. oh, and he's an SM sensor.

Hiruzen; who in edo state, is able to push his body to the limits with no restraint. The means bijuu sized elemental techniques, mass shadow shuriken(this tech is a lot deadlier than given credit), shadow clones and enma. The only people who can stop him are itachi, nagato and madara and maybe 1 or 2 others. Everyone else gets slaughtered by him using their elemental weakness, enma or an array of shadow shurikens they won't be able to dodge. He's also a partial sensor, able to sense through smell (like kiba's clan, but to a possible lower extent).

And, finally, they have tobirama. Who's also a very very good sensor and has a good lineup of jutsu that can decimate all but the top 3 relatively easily.

All of this means that team 1 can't hit team 2 due to ftg and can't sneak up on them due to a lineup of sensor an tracking abilities.




Now, let's move onto the strategies.
- BM minato can share chakra with all his teammates, or he can simply let kurama do it. In either case, it's canon that minato can at least transform the chakra types of two different people into that of a third; so funneling kurama to 2 team mates shouldn't even be debateable.
- seeing as all these guys are edos, tobirama can potentially exploit kibakufuda through all of them as he sees fit.
- minato and tobirama are ftg users, and once they tag each other, or someone else, they can teleport back and forth between the tags. That means, the second one hokage puts down an edo, minato's able to instantly teleport a clone over to finish him off. For that matter, tobirama could teleport that incapacitated clone out to somewhere, at which point minato sends over a clone to seal the deal.
- After minato, tobirama and hiruzen clean up the edo army, they can then provide support for hashirama and they should be able to take out edo madara.

Apart from the top 3, the other members of the edo army are way out of their league imo, including the kages. After all, hiruzen was said to be the strongest of his time; a weaker minato was feared during his time; tobirama was claimed to be the fastest during his time; and hashirama was hailed a god. These 4 are in leagues of their own.
 
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Edo Hokage take this. they each make a clone and place everyone inside the hokage barrier while minato and tobirama teleporting each Edo out and proceed to Gang them.
 

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Edo Hokage take this. they each make a clone and place everyone inside the hokage barrier while minato and tobirama teleporting each Edo out and proceed to Gang them.
holy shit what a troll strategy. I didn't even think of something like that.
 

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If Hashirama couldn't pull Budha then hokages loses this battle.
 

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I'm assuming that minato has KM/BM since he is Edo? If so Edo hokage can take this.
 
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Minato and Hiruzen solo a majority of them by themselves.

Minato gives Hiruzen a kunai which he then multiplies and watches as Minato trolls all of them with his sealing jutsu's.
 

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tbh Hashirama and BM Minato will be enough
 

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Hokages with ease... Madara Nagato Itachi are the only ones to be worried about... BM Minato could easily take Itachi and Nagato... Edo Hashirama swats Madara and 7swordsmen Gin and Kin kakaku via Shinsuusenju...
 

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Edo army totally decimates. Madara can use his meteor to wipe the battlefield clean while protecting his side with PS. Mu can go invisible and jinton the hokage from behind while they are distracted with other opponents. Hiruzen and Hashirama are sitting ducks for Itachi's amaterasu. Tobirama and Minato are taken care of with Itachi's genjutsu or Nagato and some others can overwhelm them. Not to mention, Deidara can use C0 and clear the battlefield and destroy Hashirama's buddha. Or meteor can destroy the buddha. Or Shinra Tensei destroys it.

Edo Hokage take this. they each make a clone and place everyone inside the hokage barrier while minato and tobirama teleporting each Edo out and proceed to Gang them.

Hokage won't get a chance to set it up. If even one hokage gets taken out the barrier isn't happening. Even if they do, they wouldn't be able to conveniently trap the entire Edo army within it. The clones get taken out and the barrier falls down.
 

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Has anyone considered that Nagato can literally make his CT as big as he wants and no one can stop him?
 

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That point is moot, because the hokages have ftg to teleport away, while the edo army gets destroyed by that. So, it would actually be harmful instead of helpful.
 
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