[Edited] Tobi/Kakashi MS

Joshua3313

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hello all its me again :cool:
i already posted this theory but it was a wall of text
i ll try and make it more clear for the ones who hate to see a
wall of text so i will show from person to person:D :noc:

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Team Minato: is a four cell team includes
- Minato Namikaze (before hokage)
- Rin
- Obito Uchiha
- Kakashi Hatake


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Minato: Minato was the squad leader he had little to do with the 'death' he gave a Special made Kunai with a seal on there for
minato to space time ninjutsu to him but it was used to late to save obito
he did save kakashi and rin but thats later



Rin:
Rin was a medical ninjutsu she was pretty though cuz when the rock ninjas toke her and put her in genjutsu she did not reveal information
kakashi tried to abondon her but obito went to save her she also transplanted the eye from obito to kakashi


Hatake Kakashi: kakashi was known as the hero with sharingan
during the 3rd shinobi war he fought very little against rock ninjas
he got it eye split after saving obito and they saved rin but kakashi collapsed and obito saved him and granted him his eye for becoming a Jonin


Uchiha Obito:
obito was more of a life saver for kakashi but instead costed him his life he granted his eye to kakashi with a sharingan kakashi could NEVER disable the sharingan he had to mask it to not drain any chakra obito hated heroes and so does tobi


Tobi - Kakashi
Tobi and kakashi share the same dimension however kakashi can only offense his kamui and tobi can offensive and defencive however we never saw tobi perform the same kamui or atleast the offensive one if kakashi tried to use kamui on himself he would end up either killing or damage himself. obito's eye is in tobis right socket and kakashi's left socket

Tobi - Obito
Tobi and obito have alot in common its hair style but thats not everything why is obito's right side zetsu BUT hes skin just came back along with his blood and bones tobi contains this in order to regenarate skin --> either snake or hashirama senju's Cells! he could regen but part is zetsu he can let is own arm come back in zetsu parts. but didnt obito get crushed in grass land and they say zetsu came from that same country so could it be he just found him?? he never saw him really die die only hurt but zetsu can fix things and may be he found hes eye dna and remade them.. could it be? people say he had 2 eyes and obito didnt did you see his lab? its alot of eyes.

Tobi - Kakashi MS
its obvious that tobi gained his Mangekyo Sharingan at the same time kakashi did they share the same eye dimension and power's however tobi has a uchiha body because of his attacks he has a more stronger part of kamui look at hashirama and yamato hashirama had tree wood style and yamato had cut wood style he did not have the tree wood style just as tobi and kakashi. the left eye socket from tobi had a sharingan he revealed it agains konan to save himself but he could also just had a eye from his lab but how many eye does the lab have alot and what about danzos arm?? he had alot so how did they do that ?? did uchiha have that many eyes not all the people had a sharingan. and why obitos eye ?? he had already made the lab and stocked his sharingans in some sort of liquid to keep it good my theory believes he had eyes of people who hadnt had a chance to enable to Mangekyo Sharingan obito's eye was just able to use the sharingan level 2.. he had a close friend Rin! why rin because he always had a fight with kakashi!


Rin - Kakashi - Obito
Rin always broke up a fight with obito and kakashi which means they werent close to each other rin loved kakashi and obito loved rin kakashi would have never killed rin in exchange for eye power but obito would if he went for akatsuki and foor bijuu's he 'loved' her so she was his best friend so what if he survived killed rin and enable its mangekyo sharingan? if u look at a little footage u see kakashi walking with gai in konoha when attacked kakashi was his height as he is now which means obito would also.


Gaps: how did obito know so much in a short period of time black zetsu and white zetsu they knew about senju and madara how would he other wise get its wood style orochimaru is not possible look at the wood style from yamato its weaker zetsu has tree wood style its stronger than cut wood style. zetsu could have found obito from far away or was hiding as we know today he can delete his presence that even Yondaime wouldnt know he was there he could have waited untill the rock ninjas striked that he had saved obito maybe madara's mind was in black zetsu and he knew he cant reach bijuus in zetsu presence that he made obito join darkness because he was saved by him and he needed a toll.


Tobi - Madara
MK confirmed that madara knew tobi maybe madara was running out of life and then zetsu appeared with obito madara could ve told him the weakness of the kyuubi seal in kushina he maybe had the information about the childbirth and obito striked konoha. even Yondaime confirmed he was the masked man inside naruto but the question my theory did not answer was why did masked man not capture kyuubi and sealed it in the statue?


Theory:
Tobi is obito and killed rin obtained MS and kakashi did also he striked konohagakure and got beaten


people wine about gaps why not madara why madara why does need a zetsu part to survive!? he survived Senju clash wouldnt he die to death



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hope you guys enjoyed not sure if contains all my information but it does alot hopefully its more clear like this my previous post was on my ipad 3 harder to type

Greetings out of holland :D
 

Expulso

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And this is not a wall of text also?
 

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Nice theory, well presented but two problems

1) This theory has been posted multiple times

2) It belongs in a specific thread in the Naruto Manga Section called "Tobi ID Threads"


+Rep for the effort, if you use the same effort in original thread ideas you'll go far on this site
 

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1)Why would Obito kill Rin? like you said he loved her
2)I did not understand your description of Minato
3)Where did you get the idea of Kakashi striking Konohagakure
 

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tobi had the ms within the year of obito dieing which i think if im not mistaken was b4 rin died
 

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With him(Tobi) using Mangekyo so many times ... why isnt he blind yet?
That's another reason why I don't believe it's Obito. If it was, the spam of his Kamui would render him blind. And we have seen with Kakashi that it takes a whole lot of time to start to make him blind (reason is that was a transplant maybe?).
So if that's correct (the transplant reason) Tobi got Obito other eye transplanted too.
 

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Alphachu:
if i mentiond kakashi striking konoha its a mistake sorry im always little confused when typing alot but minato is just not a really a big shot in here he came and save and then go he thats what i meant
and why obito would kill rin if u want to activate a ms you need to believe and feel that you killed ur best friend which in this case is rin he killed her for the MS

GimmeFood:
could be but maybe kakashi collapsed because hes eye is going blind cuz tobi is finally using his maybe because tobi never used it he never had a side effect but untill he uses it kakashi gets a side effect of spamming it too many times tobi never used hes and its a different body maybe its a different side effect
 
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